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Old 01-22-2026, 02:31 PM   #25541
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In Kadri and specifically Coleman's case I do think the NTCs probably lead to a limited market, which is why there is the "we don't want to move the player" narrative.

Because you can't really create a bidding war by pitting teams against one another, there just aren't enough teams they want to go to to, that also want the player.

So your position is more "We don't actually want to trade the player, but if they meet our price then we will think about it".
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Old 01-22-2026, 02:33 PM   #25542
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It's a shame Farabee hasn't really "turned it around" on his offensive production... if he was touching 20g then he might be a candidate for the wright trade.
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Old 01-22-2026, 02:35 PM   #25543
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So based on this, Winnipegs management are ######bags and Vegas treats their guys like gold? Do you have those lists handy? I’m interested in reading them
Out of the Athletic .. annual player poll piece they do.

You are certainly listing the first and biggest factor for sure. Manitoba can't beat Nevada for market or taxes.

But what if you are talking to 5 teams ... none in the NHL's ten most desirable locations and you need to break a tie?

"Scratch the one that humiliated Huberdeau!"
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It's a shame Farabee hasn't really "turned it around" on his offensive production... if he was touching 20g then he might be a candidate for the wright trade.

I think Seattle probably thinks they have enough of those guys. Think they're looking for a player who's a little more elite.
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Old 01-22-2026, 02:38 PM   #25545
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Frost and Coleman are both better than Wright.

MAYBE he becomes more, at some point, but right now he is regressing, not progressing
That's kind of the point. Seattle is sacrificing potential for a player that is better right now. I doubt the Flames have anyone that fits what Seattle is looking for. Kadri is a legit top 6 threat but also really old. Perhaps if Frost or Sharangovich had been more consistent all season?
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I wonder if Seattle would be interested in a Wright for Huberdeau retained trade? Let Hubby get back to what he's doing best in a real system.
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I wonder if Seattle would be interested in a Wright for Huberdeau retained trade? Let Hubby get back to what he's doing best in a real system.
Where is the green text?
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Out of the Athletic .. annual player poll piece they do.

You are certainly listing the first and biggest factor for sure. Manitoba can't beat Nevada for market or taxes.

But what if you are talking to 5 teams ... none in the NHL's ten most desirable locations and you need to break a tie?

"Scratch the one that humiliated Huberdeau!"
That might be 5th tiebreaker - but its going to come down to - can I win there? Edmonton doesn't exactly have the world greatest rep with players but they seem to be able to land people - because they can win there.

1) Money
2) Chance of winning
3) Climate/City
4-12) bunch of other things
13) Were they mean to some player a while ago
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well, itd have to be well retained haha, and not 1 for 1 obvs. i mean, were not the oilers and seattle isnt the devils.
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among other things, retaining on a 5 year deal is not a good idea.

I know people hate it, but Huberdeau isn't going anywhere anytime soon. That contract is absolutely unmovable.
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well, itd have to be well retained haha, and not 1 for 1 obvs. i mean, were not the oilers and seattle isnt the devils.
Why would Calgary lock up a retention slot for that amount of time?
Honestly Huberdeau isn't hurting the Flames right now, sure he's not helping, but not hurting. It's a valuable contract in that it helps us stay reach the floor.

Let's have this conversation RE Huberdeau in like two more years and see if he's eating up a roster spot/cap that we actually need then.
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That might be 5th tiebreaker - but its going to come down to - can I win there? Edmonton doesn't exactly have the world greatest rep with players but they seem to be able to land people - because they can win there.

1) Money
2) Chance of winning
3) Climate/City
4-12) bunch of other things
13) Were they mean to some player a while ago
Who of consequence has Edmonton landed though?
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That might be 5th tiebreaker - but its going to come down to - can I win there? Edmonton doesn't exactly have the world greatest rep with players but they seem to be able to land people - because they can win there.

1) Money
2) Chance of winning
3) Climate/City
4-12) bunch of other things
13) Were they mean to some player a while ago
This might be tied to #1, but opportunity for individual success, especially for players looking for their big contract, is probably a big factor. Will you get a chance to play with an elite player, will you be utilized more, etc... Some of these guys that sign in Edmonton probably care less about winning than they do about hopefully getting some easy points so they can increase their value and jet.

The Flames are kind of in a catch 22 in that regard. A player might look at the lack of production and fear that their production will go down if they joined the team. But a young center or RW who felt they had top line potential but was buried on their current team, might look at the Flames as a big opportunity in the next few years rather than be stuck on a deep team and never get a shot to shine. As much as these guys want to win, they and their agents also consider what best for their long term earning potential.
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Apparently the habs are looking to trade Laine. Maybe we do a reverse monahan on them? Oh wait, that's never really possible haha
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Who of consequence has Edmonton landed though?
Zach Hyman as a UFA? They've got McDavid and Draisaitl to re-sign multiple times when they could have left.

Doing better in that regard then the Flames when it came to Gaudreau and Tkachuk
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So based on this, Winnipegs management are ######bags and Vegas treats their guys like gold? Do you have those lists handy? I’m interested in reading them
I think there is a lot of nuance in how an organization "treats" a player.

Fans seem to have this mindset that because Vegas trades players they treat players poorly, that isn't the case at all though.

Vegas from all accounts treats their players and families like gold when they are in the organization. Great family support programs, great facilities, players get treated like gold when they play for the team, expansive support staff, top notch trainers, etc.

They also haven't really asked players to take huge discounts when they sign them, they sign them to pretty much fair market value. So salaries aren't an issue.

Pretty much every player that has played for Vegas has loved playing for Vegas when they played there.

IMO that's the most important thing for players.

Now from the fans perspective they see things like Fleury and Marchessault and think that deters players but I'm not sure it does.

Other players see those types of moves as a team just wanting to win, and they want to play for a winner.

I would wager that maybe the Jets and Flames organizations treat their players better than Vegas when it comes to trades and being good to players...but I think when it comes to facilities, support, investment in the players off the ice that Vegas seems to be the class of the NHL and why players want to play there. When players are determining where to play I'd bet they are more focused on what's best for them immediately than the hypothetical of what's going to happen if they try to trade me.

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This might be tied to #1, but opportunity for individual success, especially for players looking for their big contract, is probably a big factor. Will you get a chance to play with an elite player, will you be utilized more, etc... Some of these guys that sign in Edmonton probably care less about winning than they do about hopefully getting some easy points so they can increase their value and jet.

The Flames are kind of in a catch 22 in that regard. A player might look at the lack of production and fear that their production will go down if they joined the team. But a young center or RW who felt they had top line potential but was buried on their current team, might look at the Flames as a big opportunity in the next few years rather than be stuck on a deep team and never get a shot to shine. As much as these guys want to win, they and their agents also consider what best for their long term earning potential.
Young players don't become UFAs so that doesn't really matter.
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Laine for Huberdeau. Who says no?
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