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Old 01-20-2026, 11:48 AM   #25181
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Trocheck being available muddies the water on Kadri.

Both have the same amount of contract left but Trocheck is 3 years younger and $1.375 mil cap savings compared to Kadri.

Any team asking on Kadri will also be asking on Trocheck.
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That's a list created now, but if his list was made at the beginning of the year I think he'd have gone with who he thought were not in the POs (and therefore needed no PO depth). That probably didn't include Winnipeg, Vancouver, St. Louis and maybe even NYR. he probably would have guessed SJ, Buffalo, maybe Anaheim and Boston.
Agreed. And I don't think we know what his contract allows for in terms of when a list had to be submitted.
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I know people want everyone traded. Yesterday. But that isn't realistic. And I think the Flames are very reticent to rush things - they aren't throwing young players into the deep end, until they know they are ready. My guesses on likelihood and timing of trades:

Coleman: Could be this year or next. But my feeling is that the Flames have committed to trying to A) a deeper rebuild dive, and B) a quicker time line for it. So my guess is that he goes this year. As with Andersson (and Lomberg too), it tears the heart right out of the roster though. Also like Andersson, it needs to happen. But it also sucks.

Kadri: The toughest, because it requires the perfect dance partner, and as such, maybe it doesn't happen until next year. The challenge of course, is that his value could drop significantly. I really hope they strike while the timing is favourable, but I suspect they won't.

Weegar: The leader of the D core, and possible next captain. Absolutely no way they trade him this year, IMO, and unlikely next year either. Beyond that, once the young guys start to take over the top spots, he becomes movable (unless he is the captain).

Whitecloud: there will be significant interest this year, and maybe Conroy bites, if an offer is attractive enough, but I think it's more likely they look to move him next year. Bahl, Kuznetsov, and Brzustewicz have all progressed more than the Flames probably expected though, so that makes moving him this year a possibility.

Pospisil: If he gets healthy in time, I think they move him. Is he worth a 2nd? A 3rd? I have no idea.

Lomberg: The most likely to be traded, IMO. Character guy, awesome in the room - absolute beauty! But he's a UFA and it's time. Talentwise, he's probably worth a 4th, but due to his character, leadership, and track record with FLA's cup run, he probably returns a 3rd.

Pachal and Hanley: Again, the Flames aren't throwing young guys to the wolves, and that is why they were keeping these two and Bean and Miromanov around. But Brz and Kuz have developed into full time NHLers, so now these guys can be moved. My guess is one this year, and one next year.

Kirkland: Does anyone grab him as insurance for the playoffs, for a 5th, or something like that? It's possible.

Overall, I think we see one of Kadri or Coleman moved, at least one of Lomberg and Pospisil, and one of Pachal or Hanley. If I were betting on Whitecloud, I would bet on next year.
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The Stars make very little sense to me.

They have decent center depth with Hintz, Johnston and Duchene and it will just make their life difficult next season signing Robertson.
Do not see a fit at all.


and honestly same thing with the Avs. Kadri missed the boat there since they got Nelson.

With MacK, Nelson and Drury their top 9 centers are set. They made their big 2c acquisition last season. They're also up against the cap and have little interesting assets. You could make it work with a 1st + 2nd + B assets, but it's not really that appealing for the Avs or the Flames.


If it's limited to those two teams I don't see it happening.
Its not going to hurt them to have extra centers on the roster in case of injury. And Kadri is much better than Drury.
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I think NJ could still be an interesting landing spot for either Kadri or Coleman. They need some 2 way horsepower in their lineup. Still have some good trade chips in the hopper.
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Half the league probably doesn’t trade for Kadri as well which gives him more control. Another landing spot for him could be Minnesota. Jiricek and a 1st would be decent.
Man what happened to Jiricek?
0 points in 20 games in the NHL, 5 points in 15 AHL games.

Barf. Not sure there's much there.
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I have to say that the Conroy interview was the most refreshing thing I have heard as a fan in at least 2 years. It gave me more confidence in the organization than I have had in probably 4 years.

I think they took too long to get here but I am relieved that they are seemingly finally in the mind set of accelerating the fall and deepening the rebuild to the point of building a real contender.
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Man what happened to Jiricek?
0 points in 20 games in the NHL, 5 points in 15 AHL games.

Barf. Not sure there's much there.
Jiricek always seemed like a weird love story. Reminds me a lot of how people are looking at Smits actually.
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Old 01-20-2026, 11:53 AM   #25189
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Trocheck being available muddies the water on Kadri.

Both have the same amount of contract left but Trocheck is 3 years younger and $1.375 mil cap savings compared to Kadri.

Any team asking on Kadri will also be asking on Trocheck.
The major benefit to moving Kadri isn't even his return, it's finishing lower in the standings. A #1 or #2 pick would change the destiny of this organization. Two very high end forward prospects are on the board, on of whom grew up a Flames fan.

Even #3 is a great prospect, albeit another d-man.

Finishing below Vancouver seems unlikely, but the Flames need to find a way to out tank Winnipeg and St. Louis.
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Old 01-20-2026, 11:53 AM   #25190
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Man what happened to Jiricek?
0 points in 20 games in the NHL, 5 points in 15 AHL games.

Barf. Not sure there's much there.
Not sure but I also don’t think Kadri will get a blue chip at this point so a reclamation project is a decent start. Better if it’s a center but I don’t know who that would be. Too bad the Avs already gave Ritchie away.
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Trocheck being available muddies the water on Kadri.

Both have the same amount of contract left but Trocheck is 3 years younger and $1.375 mil cap savings compared to Kadri.

Any team asking on Kadri will also be asking on Trocheck.
Trocheck has more value. The play is to try and determine what that value floor is and set our ask just below it so that we provide a tempting second option. We could even generate a bidding war this way by ensuring the same bidders on Trocheck know of the slightly lesser price for Kadri and play into the process.
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I'm fine keeping Kadri is his return isn't great. But that means trade Frost in my books. I don't know what he's worth but I don't think you resign him to what he may want. I'm not even sure why he is worth a 4.5MM contract.

Coleman (50% retained) + Whitecloud seems like a "push you over the top" playoff booster pack. I would be fine packaging them if the quality of the assets is much higher vs quantity. Otherwise, Coleman (50% retained) + Pachal (throw-in to top off the package) would still get a 1st + something. Whitecloud alone would get a 2nd +....if Flames continue to showcase him for 20+ mins and he looks good, maybe...just maybe.....late 1st if you throw in Lomberg.
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Old 01-20-2026, 11:57 AM   #25193
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I'm hopeful Tampa is on his preferred list, too. I think if you have three teams like Dallas, Colorado and Tampa in competition for him, Conroy could extract some good value in a trade.
Kadri doesn't have a preferred team list - he has a 13 team no trade list. We know it has Carolina on it, which I think suggests that TB might be as well, and maybe Dallas.

We also know that Montreal and Toronto were not on his NT list. I think he probably also would go to other Canadian teams. Although we also know he thinks strategically with his list - he doesn't dislike Calgary, yet they were on his list (and not Colorado) when he got traded to the Avs, and he admitted this was so he could try to avoid any trade at all. It just so happened that Colorado needed a C which he didn't anticipate. If he's thinking this way he would probably leave off any team with two good Cs and also any team that wouldn't be a buyer at all.

I'm guessing his NT list has Carolina, St. Louis, TB, Dallas, Vegas, LA, Minnesota, Nashville, Columbus, Buffalo, Florida, Utah and Seattle.
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LeBrun says Coleman's list was submitted last summer.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/698...shared_article

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So what now for Calgary? Nazem Kadri and Blake Coleman are two quality veteran players with term left that teams have interest in.

Coleman, 34, has next year left on his deal at a $4.9 million cap hit. His contract is perfect for many contenders. He does have partial trade protection in the form of a 10-team list of approved teams, which was submitted last summer.

Kadri, 35, has three more years after this season at a $7 million cap hit. That’s less appealing, to be sure. But he’s a Cup champion and playoff warrior, and some teams are looking at it. Kadri also has some protection in a 13-team no-trade list.

It’s hard to say where it goes on either player.
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It's not a happy day when you trade away a long time Flame. I think it was a difficult goodbye.
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Trocheck being available muddies the water on Kadri.

Both have the same amount of contract left but Trocheck is 3 years younger and $1.375 mil cap savings compared to Kadri.

Any team asking on Kadri will also be asking on Trocheck.
Shoulda traded him earlier. Regardless, next best time is now.
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Kadri would be my next preffered trade.
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We can make a truly stupendous offer on Makar next year, fwiw. Especially if Kadri and Weegar are all of a sudden off payroll.

Edit: This year. Makar is a free agent in summer 2026. Edit 2: nope, og was right
Would $16mil/per do it for Makar?

Also we will rename Silver Springs Blvd to Golden Makar Blvd.
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I know people want everyone traded. Yesterday. But that isn't realistic. And I think the Flames are very reticent to rush things - they aren't throwing young players into the deep end, until they know they are ready. My guesses on likelihood and timing of trades:

Coleman: Could be this year or next. But my feeling is that the Flames have committed to trying to A) a deeper rebuild dive, and B) a quicker time line for it. So my guess is that he goes this year. As with Andersson (and Lomberg too), it tears the heart right out of the roster though. Also like Andersson, it needs to happen. But it also sucks.

Kadri: The toughest, because it requires the perfect dance partner, and as such, maybe it doesn't happen until next year. The challenge of course, is that his value could drop significantly. I really hope they strike while the timing is favourable, but I suspect they won't.

Weegar: The leader of the D core, and possible next captain. Absolutely no way they trade him this year, IMO, and unlikely next year either. Beyond that, once the young guys start to take over the top spots, he becomes movable (unless he is the captain).

Whitecloud: there will be significant interest this year, and maybe Conroy bites, if an offer is attractive enough, but I think it's more likely they look to move him next year. Bahl, Kuznetsov, and Brzustewicz have all progressed more than the Flames probably expected though, so that makes moving him this year a possibility.

Pospisil: If he gets healthy in time, I think they move him. Is he worth a 2nd? A 3rd? I have no idea.

Lomberg: The most likely to be traded, IMO. Character guy, awesome in the room - absolute beauty! But he's a UFA and it's time. Talentwise, he's probably worth a 4th, but due to his character, leadership, and track record with FLA's cup run, he probably returns a 3rd.

Pachal and Hanley: Again, the Flames aren't throwing young guys to the wolves, and that is why they were keeping these two and Bean and Miromanov around. But Brz and Kuz have developed into full time NHLers, so now these guys can be moved. My guess is one this year, and one next year.

Kirkland: Does anyone grab him as insurance for the playoffs, for a 5th, or something like that? It's possible.

Overall, I think we see one of Kadri or Coleman moved, at least one of Lomberg and Pospisil, and one of Pachal or Hanley. If I were betting on Whitecloud, I would bet on next year.
And this is just from the Flames POV. Some of these guys may have quietly expressed interest to move on, especially with Ras now being moved.

I think Coleman and a depth D will move this year for sure. The only way I see Kadri moving this season is if he's made a request of some sort, and maybe he has given his disinterested play the past month or so.
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Just from a family perspective, I could see kadri wanting either Canada or a heavily blue state. Why in the world would he want to walk his family into a red state ####storm? So, as much as places like Tampa make sense, I highly doubt he's going there.
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