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Old 01-19-2026, 02:28 AM   #24741
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$10.5 million cash is still $10.5 million cash.
It isn't the cash so much as the cap space. Cap space is a lot more plentiful now than it was a few years ago, but draft picks are in exactly the same supply. If $6 million in cap space was enough to buy a 1st-round pick when Monahan was traded, it might take $12 million now. We no longer see 18 or 19 teams operating over the cap and needing LTIR just to stay legal.
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Old 01-19-2026, 02:30 AM   #24742
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A higher cap means retention is less valueble though
Yes, which means a team isn't going to be willing to retain on a contract unless they're given a big incentive to do it, which was the point that was being made. Cash out the door is still cash out the door.
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Old 01-19-2026, 03:08 AM   #24743
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Yes, which means a team isn't going to be willing to retain on a contract unless they're given a big incentive to do it, which was the point that was being made. Cash out the door is still cash out the door.
No, it means that a team is going to be less willing to give out a big incentive to retain on a contract, because it's easier to fit the players you want under the cap now. Cap space is cheaper now, but draft picks are exactly as valuable as they were before. Therefore, it takes more cap space to buy the same draft pick. Supply and demand.
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Old 01-19-2026, 04:59 AM   #24744
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Flames absolutely need to trade Coleman now.

I'd prefer they trade Kadri this season too, but maybe they can do that in the off season instead.

If they trade Coleman for futures, anyone that continues to call what the Flames are doing a "retool" should be instabanned.
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Old 01-19-2026, 06:57 AM   #24745
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Friedman on 32 thoughts speculating (paraphrased):

-the Flames will have options with Whitecloud if they want to go there.
-Calgary is not done, definitely the potential for more
-I don't buy the Coleman to Montreal stuff, TB makes a lot of sense.
-he has a list, that is his right, does he want to adjust it


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Old 01-19-2026, 07:08 AM   #24746
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I don’t see how Whitecloud makes Weegar expendable. I’d rather keep Weegar for veteran presence on the backend. Having Weegar-Whitecloud-Bahl is the perfect amount of veteran presence. Bruz and Kuz are enough rookies on the back end imo.

I’d much rather deal Coleman. We have veteran presence at forward and I think Coleman will fetch us the biggest fish.

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Old 01-19-2026, 07:18 AM   #24747
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I’m hesitant to think teams will trade a first for Coleman, the closest comparable from last years TDL was Marchand (who’s significantly better than Coleman but he was a rental). Marchand fetched the bruins a conditional 2nd rounder that turned into a first. Coleman is worth significantly less than Marchand.
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Flames absolutely need to trade Coleman now.

I'd prefer they trade Kadri this season too, but maybe they can do that in the off season instead.

If they trade Coleman for futures, anyone that continues to call what the Flames are doing a "retool" should be instabanned.
Anyone who currently calls it a retool is a moron, clear as day. Do you ban a moron or just marvel at their stupidity? That is the question.
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Weegar may be struggling this year but Whitecloud who has never hit 20 points in a season is definitely not a replacement for him.
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I’m hesitant to think teams will trade a first for Coleman, the closest comparable from last years TDL was Marchand (who’s significantly better than Coleman but he was a rental). Marchand fetched the bruins a conditional 2nd rounder that turned into a first. Coleman is worth significantly less than Marchand.
But wasn't Marchand only wanted to be traded to Panthers only? Did he have a full NMC? I can't recall.
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But wasn't Marchand only wanted to be traded to Panthers only? Did he have a full NMC? I can't recall.
I’m not sure of that, but when I was reading the TSN trade article this morning it mentioned that Boston and Marchand weren’t agreeing on an extension and that’s why he was traded.
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But wasn't Marchand only wanted to be traded to Panthers only? Did he have a full NMC? I can't recall.
Marchand was able to be traded to 8 teams.
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Flames should probably start being more proactive with Coleman and Kadri. Holding on to players right down to free agency hasn't been bringing in the greatest of returns. At this point there's no reason not to be shopping both players hard if they are open to a move.
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Do we know the extent of Coleman's injury ... I anticipate that won't heat up until he can get back into action and teams are not trading for damaged goods.
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Weegar isn't going anywhere. Not only is the team not interested in moving him but he has no desire to move.
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Weegar may be struggling this year but Whitecloud who has never hit 20 points in a season is definitely not a replacement for him.
Technically, allowing the two young defensemen (brz and parekh) would take on the offensive role that Weegar had. Whitecloud would be the defensive defender.

Also can go sign a veteran d man in the off season.
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On a positive note, with the rumored returns for Andersson being one of Bystedt/Danielson/Poitras, we know they are going to have good careers now.
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Old 01-19-2026, 08:20 AM   #24758
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Yeah those rumored returns are a good reminder, especially for me who once claimed to know better, to temper expectations greatly.

Conroy's trades have almost always been picks, roster player you may have been vaguely familiar with, and a prospect you've never heard of.

We aren't, and won't get, anyone's top prospects for future trades like Coleman or Kadri. Guaranteed.

And don't let any twitter sources try to tell you otherwise.
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I recall seeing a post after Christmas that this time (before the Olympic break) was Coleman’s preferred time to move if he is moved. Not sure the post or who said it.

Wondering if we have any sense to the flames urgency to move him out. Given he is “hurt” right now is that actual injury or protecting an asset with a sore side.
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I’m hesitant to think teams will trade a first for Coleman, the closest comparable from last years TDL was Marchand (who’s significantly better than Coleman but he was a rental). Marchand fetched the bruins a conditional 2nd rounder that turned into a first. Coleman is worth significantly less than Marchand.
It all depends how restrictive Coleman is with his list.

IIRC Marchands 8 team NTC was pretty much structured to only be Florida. That the other 7 teams were teams that wouldn't be interested in moving for a rental.

For Coleman it will depend if it's only a couple teams (Dallas and Tampa) or if he'd be willing to go to a broader group of contenders.
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