[Trade] Andersson (50% retained) to Vegas for 27 1st, cond 28 2nd, Whitecloud, Wiebe

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

So what happens if they win the cup this year and then their pick next year is top 10?

gotta believe that if they win the cup this year, the 27 1st becomes unconditional, since we already own the 28 1st

[mdubz]

So much for getting the coveted “good young player”

[Jiri Hrdina]

Wiebe was ranked #8 in the Athletic summary of their prospects from this summer.

Highlights
- Was drafted as an overager
- Won the Top 3 award in the BCHL
- Big with a shot that is a weapon from the point on the PP
- Good first pass
- Some "pro quality there"

That's about it.

[iggyloob12]

Makes me wonder if Hanley or Pachal are next at the deadline.

[btimbit]

Watch out Avs, here comes Vegas.

Whatever as long as one of them stomps the Oilers

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

Whitecloud to Boston now

or to TOR, considering what they paid for Carlo.

[sekimet]

Honestly this return is pretty close to what I expected if I was being realistic, but its so hard not to get swept up in all the exciting deals being thrown around by insiders on social media etc. I dont blame anyone else for being disappointed I cant help but feel it a little too.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Yeah I think you look for the equivalence of two first rounders plus a bit more for a small retention.

1st is there.
2nd is there (I'll ignore the could be a first)
serviceable NHL defenseman likely worth a 2nd?
Prospect that I'd assume they like

Are we saying two 2nds and a prospect isn't worth a 1st?

I doubt Whitecloud is worth a second. And two late seconds are not worth a first.

You cannot squint hard enough to turn this into two firsts.

But it's the best Conroy could do with a rental player.

[Baaarrden]

Still no centre is perhaps the most upsetting

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Acquiring Whitecloud does also open up the possibility they could trade Weegar

So Conroy can do worse for Weegar?

[Bonded]

Well they bit on the deadline return from Vegas ahead of the deadline. People got overhyped by twitter but Andersson must have been dead set on Vegas.

[Sandman]

We got a first and a second, that’s all that matters. The 2027 draft will be fun!

[fuffalo]

Originally Posted by Baaarrden

Does Ras get booed when he returns to Calgary because he screwed us?

What? No way. He was a great guy and played awesome for us for years. I wish him the best and will stand when they play his video upon return!

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Not as good as I was hoping it will be, but it is what it is.
I don't fault Rasmus. He signed a sweetheart deal that underpaid him for most of that time. He had the right to either go where he wanted, or set himself up to test the UFA waters.

This will mean 2 firsts in 3 straight years. I like that.

Was hoping for a better return but not going to lose sleep over it.

4 straight years, and possibly 5

[sureLoss]

Friedman on 960 says on Sunday that Andersson indicated that he would not sign an extension with any team at this time once that happened the pendulum swung to the Knights.

Knights were always willing to trade without an extension in place because they were confident they could sign him.

Doesn't see Dallas beating Vegas offer.

Was told that Toronto's 1st was not part of Boston's offer. Thinks Lohrei and another 1st was involved but extension had to be included.

Friedman didn't think Flames would get this much from Vegas.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by browntrout

So, we want Vegas to win the cup this year, this year's pick would go to crap, but they would get a 2028 1st round pick, unprotected, they also get a 2027 1st round pick, so Vegas can win cup this year, suck $#@& next year, but don't suck too much...like just be 11th bad come 2027 draft

Could work out really good for CC, I like his logic, good calculated risk that he took here

Eff that crap. I hope Noah and Rasmus never touch the cup unless it's at the hockey hall of fame.

[colbym72]

Let’s remember what Conroy has done with late firsts recently

[dissentowner]

Remember when I said I was afraid Conroy would take less to get it done before the Olympic break? That's exactly what happened. The other teams wanted access to talk extension and Andersson was having none of it. So Conroy got gun shy about holding the asset any longer and Andersson pretty much shoe horned him into dealing with Vegas. It's tough being a Flames fan

[YyjFlames]

Calgary can trade Whitecloud to Toronto next season for a first and their top prospect. Got a lot of Carlo similarities.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

You were one of those suggesting that they needed to trade him now to avoid injury risk of the Olympics and move down the standings.

So this is what it looks like man.

No surprise you are still complaining.

lol knew that he’d be complaining about the trade return