Electric vehicle war, is gas soon to be toast?

[opendoor]

In the short term, probably just more Chinese made cars that we already have here (Tesla, Polestar, etc.) or brands that already exist here (Volvo is owned by Geely). Building up the ability to sell and service the vehicles in Canada probably isn't viable for most Chinese brands when they're only able to import so few in a year. And the current international trade situation isn't particularly stable, so I'd be surprised if they didn't want to test the waters a bit before they invest a bunch of resources.

But it sounds like they want half of the imports to be cheaper models by 2030 and they're also hinting at Canadian production (similar to what's happening in Europe), so in the mid-term I'd expect something like what we're seeing in Australia, Europe, and Mexico where BYD, Geely, SAIC, etc. are entering the market.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'm all for Chinese EVs coming to Canada but if we require the cars to be built here and/or the parts to be sourced from Canada are they still going to be an affordable option? Sure it might drive some competition from the legacy automakers but the main advantage goes away if you take away Chinese manufacturing and supply chains.

Low margin affordable cars built there.

High margins fancy cars partially built here.

Canada is one of the few countries where car sales are flat or decreasing. People coming to their senses and passing on $50k Civics and $100k F150s, maybe.

I mean seriously, how stupid do you have to be to buy something like that or worse.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Wolven

I would be soooooooooooooooooo leery about buying a Chinese car. With the amount of security issues identified with TVs and whatnot, or the propaganda and nonsense being jammed into Chinese AI toys for kids, the idea of Chinese cars on our roads is actually scary. Looking at the new Chinese TV brands, they send a LOT of data back home for no good reason (and that reason is likely why they are so cheap).

With a couple of clicks they could take over a car and drive it into a wall or another car or a crowd of people.

I realize that the same is true of Tesla and I would honestly advocate for kicking Tesla out of the country for security reasons.

IMO, before China should be able to send their cars here, they should build a Canadian office for their software and ensure that all of the components in their cars sold in Canada are forced to run a Canadian made version of their software that is audited by CSIS or something to eliminate potential shenanigans.

You really have not thought this through.

Every electronic device with a CPU that you own probably has its ‘brain’ manufactured in China, or somewhere else by a Chinese company. That includes American cars.

If China wanted to force its national companies they could put little control chips just about anywhere on the board to ‘own’ it. There’s been stories of that stuff in network gear, although there isn’t any hard proof.

But discovery of something like that is bad for business and there are lots of other ways China already owns your stuff in other ways. It’s unnecessary to sabotage your car. We already need them more than they need us.

If what you posted is how you legitimately feel and are worried about then there isn’t a big enough tin foil hat in the world to protect you.

[indes]

China doesn't need to steal your information. People give it up willingly all the time. Temu, AliExpress, tiktok etc. The amount of password breaches is already nuts and I would imagine almost everyone's information is already floating around.