2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

Hearing its not quite that Andersson won't sign an extension with a team, but more that in order to do that, he's asking a higher annual value than he's likely to get if he hits the market in order to spend the next 8 years with a team sight unseen. He values the idea of going to market, considering a multitude of options in terms of contention windows/location and lifestyle for family, even a bidding war with cap increases. In order to forego that in advance of actually stepping foot into an organization, he wants a premium, and doesn't sound like 7 vs 8 years means as much as the other things.

Completely fair from his perspective IMO.

First, thanks for that. Second, I don't blame Andersson either.

However, someone should remind Andersson that the exact same issue exists with respect to signing as a UFA in the summer - completely blind with respect to how he would fit into the team, and whether or not he would like it. The only actual advantage is being able to choose the city, but even then, you don't know what it will be like until you settle in with your family. And the cost for that one bit of choice, is a full year on the contract.

There is information in the fact that one team is willing to give up more than any other team to acquire you - that team obviously feels very strongly that you will fit in, at least with respect to the team.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Saying Calgary is Buffalo west is just lazy.
Neither team has been successful. No one disputes that.
But the underlying reasons are VERY different.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

They perpetrated one of the biggest all-time fumbles in handling Stanley Cup Champion Jack Eichel.

Their draft opportunity has nothing to do with their lack of success.

Their lack of success has everything to do with them being a terribly run organization who can't do any one thing at a competent or above level.

Drafting at the top guarantees nothing (unless you truly luck out and get a generational player that can pull an organization up by the boot straps), it gives you the opportunity to build something on a strong foundation. If you can't build on it, you just are what you are - a piss poor organization.

exactly, we don't want to be like them...also, stop falling for every clickbait article lol. The Flames have done nothing but aquire high picks with their big trades since Conroy took over

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Saying Calgary is Buffalo west is just lazy.
Neither team has been successful. No one disputes that.
But the underlying reasons are VERY different.

Calgary hasn't had the draft opportunity, but has executed well elsewhere.

Buffalo has had the draft opportunity, has has failed to execute everywhere else.

It is funny that Buffalo is Edmonton, and Edmonton is Buffalo. Both teams fail miserably at everything outside of draft opportunity, Edmonton just got luckier than Buffalo in McDavid (a man who can will an organization single handedly into some levels of success). Both organizations suck at everything.

Originally Posted by dino7c

exactly, we don't want to be like them...also, stop falling for every clickbait article lol

I'm not falling for anything. I'm posting relevant insider quotes in a rumours and speculation thread.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Calgary hasn't had the draft opportunity, but has executed well elsewhere.

Buffalo has had the draft opportunity, has has failed to execute everywhere else.

It is funny that Buffalo is Edmonton, and Edmonton is Buffalo. Both teams fail miserably at everything outside of draft opportunity, Edmonton just got luckier than Buffalo in McDavid (a man who can will an organization single handedly into some levels of success). Both organizations suck at everything.



I'm not falling for anything. I'm posting relevant insider quotes in a rumours and speculation thread.

You always post this kinda stuff and say you are angry about it...then Rhett comes in guns a blazin'

"LeBrun gives us information that will continue to piss us all off"

I won't be pissed off because I know its BS and can see through it

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Niemo

I think the notion of doing a full tank is horrible because - "we don't want to be buffalo" is very dumb. What about Pittsburgh before Crosby/Malkin, Chicago before Kane/Toews, Washington before Ovy/Backstrom, Sharks before Celebrini, etc., etc.....

I mean - there are no guarantees in life or business, but you need to work the odds. In every sport, it seems like, for the most part, you need to take 3 steps back to take 6 steps forward. It's not realistic to try to be the exception. Exceptions happen out of luck, right place right time, and stars aligning.

Planning to be the exception is thinking you're smarter than everyone else and going against probability. Sometimes it works and you look amazing - most the times it doesn't and you don't.

Also, the Flames are sitting 29th overall fielding the team that they have. A Buffalo thing to do would be to fire the coach or GM with this current roster because they are “underperforming”. Moving players like Andersson and Kadri is smart asset management, not tanking.

[Monahammer]

Very easy to tell if I am logged in these days as the threads become absolutely unreadable when not!

I've got my ciggy rolled and ready for a celebratory puff. But, if it's pure rental I struggle to see our path to 1st +. Even a 1st is hard to get these days

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You always post this kinda stuff and say you are angry about it...then Rhett comes in guns a blazin'

I...post stuff that insiders say in a Trade Rumours and Speculation thread, and comment on them.

"LeBrun gives us information that will continue to piss us all off"

I won't be pissed off because I know its BS and can see through it

You just change your take based on whatever the organization is doing, and defend it endlessly no matter what. It's a fine stance to take - just accepting what the Flames are on any given day because we have no control over it. We both love the Flames...but it's a hockey forum, we're going to discuss things back and forth from different perspectives.

I'm not actually pissed off, pretty clear what's happening - and we'll see to the degree in which it does. Boomer dropped a personal take today where he said "I don't think Coleman is getting traded", that's a sign of them not tearing it down - which would align with what LeBrun said there.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Saying Calgary is Buffalo west is just lazy.

Especially since we're the Flyers of the west. Never terrible...never great...been forever since we've had playoff success...great logo/jerseys...share a province/state with a team with horseshoes up their ass....

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dino7c

exactly, we don't want to be like them...also, stop falling for every clickbait article lol. The Flames have done nothing but aquire high picks with their big trades since Conroy took over

That is not true. We gave up a 2nd round pick in the Frost and Farabee trade last year.

That was the last significant Flames move. It wasn't even a bad trade, but your claim that we have done nothing but acquire picks is false.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Very easy to tell if I am logged in these days as the threads become absolutely unreadable when not!

I've got my ciggy rolled and ready for a celebratory puff. But, if it's pure rental I struggle to see our path to 1st +. Even a 1st is hard to get these days

They are getting a 1st+ for sure...people just might not be thrilled about the plus

[Torture]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

One of the big differences in opinion comes from who watches games night in night out and who doesn't. From the perspective of watching hockey the Flames are not even in the same range as buffalo. But from the perspective of play off success you're right they are very similar.

This list is from 2024, but gives an idea of who has been awful since the salary cap.

Regular Season Wins
840 — Boston Bruins
828 — Pittsburgh Penguins
808 — Washington Capitals
806 — New York Rangers
803 — Nashville Predators
799 — Tampa Bay Lightning
782 — Dallas Stars
774 — Minnesota Wild
770 — St. Louis Blues
764 — Colorado Avalanche
761 — San Jose Sharks
758 — Carolina Hurricanes
753 — Vancouver Canucks
749 — Calgary Flames
741 — Winnipeg Jets
738 — Detroit Red Wings
733 — Anaheim Ducks
732 — Toronto Maple Leafs
728 — Los Angeles Kings
719 — Florida Panthers
717 — New Jersey Devils
713 — Chicago Blackhawks
707 — Montréal Canadiens
705 — Philadelphia Flyers
697 — Ottawa Senators
694 — New York Islanders
677 — Edmonton Oilers
663 — Columbus Blue Jackets
661 — Buffalo Sabres
639 — Arizona Coyotes

Amazing.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You always post this kinda stuff and say you are angry about it...then Rhett comes in guns a blazin'

There is nothing wrong with posting flames related trade comments from reputable insiders in this thread.

Comix don’t say he was angry about it rather that some people will get mad when they read that.

As an aside at this point when insiders (Dreger also said it on early trading today) that the Flames “won’t burn it to the ground” what does that even mean? We could assume that they won’t be trading guys like Wolf, Coronato, Bahl, and veterans Backlund, Huberdeau and Weegar. It could also be interpreted as they won’t trade Kadri or Coleman but I personally don’t think that is what the mean.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

They are getting a 1st+ for sure...people just might not be thrilled about the plus

Agreed, will likely be close to the Hanifin return with maybe a slightly better plus..

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

There is nothing wrong with posting flames related trade comments from reputable insiders in this thread.

Comix don’t say he was angry about it rather that some people will get mad when they read that.

As an aside at this point when insiders (Dreger also said it on early trading today) that the Flames “won’t burn it to the ground” what does that even mean? We could assume that they won’t be trading guys like Wolf, Coronato, Bahl, and veterans Backlund, Huberdeau and Weegar. It could also be interpreted as they won’t trade Kadri or Coleman but I personally don’t think that is what the mean.

lol his words

"LeBrun gives us information that will continue to piss us all off."

He can post whatever he likes...I can say I think its BS and he is falling for clickbait because the Flames have done the opposite of what Lebrun has been saying for 3+ years now.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

There is nothing wrong with posting flames related trade comments from reputable insiders in this thread.

Comix don’t say he was angry about it rather that some people will get mad when they read that.

As an aside at this point when insiders (Dreger also said it on early trading today) that the Flames “won’t burn it to the ground” what does that even mean? We could assume that they won’t be trading guys like Wolf, Coronato, Bahl, and veterans Backlund, Huberdeau and Weegar. It could also be interpreted as they won’t trade Kadri or Coleman but I personally don’t think that is what the mean.

I hope it means what he's heard aligns with what Dreger noted earlier - Kadri and Andersson, Coleman unlikely (which again aligns with Boomer saying he doesn't think Coleman goes).

[traptor]

I always thought of the Flyers as calgary east.


An okay team but never seem like a too threat consistently. In and out of playoffs, dont make it deep often. although i do think theyve had a bit more playoff success then the flames.


Always more of a blue collar team without the top stars and a bit overlooked.


Biggest rival (penguins/oilers) have had multiple generational stars.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Especially since we're the Flyers of the west. Never terrible...never great...been forever since we've had playoff success...great logo/jerseys...share a province/state with a team with horseshoes up their ass....

You beat me to it

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

That is not true. We gave up a 2nd round pick in the Frost and Farabee trade last year.

That was the last significant Flames move. It wasn't even a bad trade, but your claim that we have done nothing but acquire picks is false.

come on guy, I'm talking about all the high end UFAs the Flames have traded, its all been for futures

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dino7c

lol his words

"LeBrun gives us information that will continue to piss us all off."

He can post whatever he likes...I can say I think its BS and he is falling for clickbait because the Flames have done the opposite of what Lebrun has been saying for 3+ years now.

What does falling for clickbait even mean in your eyes?

I saw a quote from LeBrun, and posted it. I didn't go off and find the article/interview and click it to give it any more interest than just the posting of the tweet summarizing what he said.

It didn't impact me in any way, I'm not sitting here crying over things. It's friggin' relevant to this specific thread.