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Old 01-15-2026, 01:37 PM   #21621
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We already are Buffalo west lol. It is funny how they can't see that.
lol I rest my case

Its funny you can't see the main return of the 7 or so vets the Flames have traded has been HIGH DRAFT PICKS and not players. They put this stuff out as clickbait for guys like you.
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Old 01-15-2026, 01:37 PM   #21622
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Is it just me or does anyone else find these vaguely cryptic gifs from so called “insiders” as narcissistic and self-centred. Ya either know something or you don’t and just share it or keep your mouth shut. Stop leading people on for your own amusement and ego.
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Is it just me or does anyone else find these vaguely cryptic gifs from so called “insiders” as narcissistic and self-centred. Ya either know something or you don’t and just share it or keep your mouth shut. Stop leading people on for your own amusement and ego.
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Old 01-15-2026, 01:38 PM   #21624
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Oh I fully anticipate maximum salary retention for Anderssons trade. Even if he signs an extension the acquiring team can still go out and beef up more when you add a top pairing RHD at 2.5m-ish.
I don't know.... based on what is being rumoured thus far the teams with the best assets to offer do not need salary retention (Red Wings) and the teams that need salary retention have the least to offer (Stars).

Considering we may still have Kadri and Coleman on the trade block, someone would have to pay a premium to take 1 of our 2 remaining retention slots for Andersson and take that retention slot away from either the Coleman or Kadri trades.

Dallas would need to pony up big for that: Bichsel + 1st + Hemming.

If they aren't offering something significant then we may as well save the retention slots to get a 1st out of Coleman and a haul out of Kadri.
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Old 01-15-2026, 01:38 PM   #21625
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We already are Buffalo west lol. It is funny how they can't see that.
In order to be Buffalo West you need to draft top 9 for ten straight years and you have to trade away 5 of those drafted players before they turn 26. The Flames don’t make either of those criteria.
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Old 01-15-2026, 01:39 PM   #21626
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come on, that's bait

usuals will fall for it
They can call it whatever they want, it's a rebuild.
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Now this is funny…
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I don't know.... based on what is being rumoured thus far the teams with the best assets to offer do not need salary retention (Red Wings) and the teams that need salary retention have the least to offer (Stars).

Considering we may still have Kadri and Coleman on the trade block, someone would have to pay a premium to take 1 of our 2 remaining retention slots for Andersson and take that retention slot away from either the Coleman or Kadri trades.

Dallas would need to pony up big for that: Bichsel + 1st + Hemming.

If they aren't offering something significant then we may as well save the retention slots to get a 1st out of Coleman and a haul out of Kadri.
I just can not see the Stars being able to resign Ras with Harley’s deal kicking in next year. Especially if they want to sign Robertson. If it is Dallas he is going as a rental.

So the Stars aren’t going to give up Bischel, Hemming and a 1st for an upcoming UFA
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Old 01-15-2026, 01:41 PM   #21629
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They can call it whatever they want, it's a rebuild.
I know that, they have traded all their players for firsts or seconds not other players being the main part of the return

Its not rocket science
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In order to be Buffalo West you need to draft top 9 for ten straight years and you have to trade away 5 of those drafted players before they turn 26. The Flames don’t make either of those criteria.
Well we did draft top 9 for a few years

Tkachuk - Traded when he was 24
Bennett - Traded when he was 24
Monahan - Traded when he was 26

But I think he was more referring to our playoff success over the last few decades.
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Oh I fully anticipate maximum salary retention for Anderssons trade. Even if he signs an extension the acquiring team can still go out and beef up more when you add a top pairing RHD at 2.5m-ish.
How is an extension done? Do the Flames do a sign and trade or is it a verbal deal and the extension is completed after the trade is completed? I’m wondering if the Flames do a sign and trade, wouldn’t they be responsible for the retention for the life of the new contrac?
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Old 01-15-2026, 01:43 PM   #21632
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Meh. Personally I don't find this discouraging. At this point I think there's just a difference in semantics around the word 'rebuild' between management and the fanbase. It's almost like their definition of rebuild would be stripping it down to the studs and trading Raz, Coleman, Kadri, Weegar, Huberdeau, Backlund etc. When in reality I think most fans would be perfectly fine with trading off veterans with trade value and/or on an expiring contract (ie: Andersson, Coleman, Kadri).

Based on what we hear from ownership/management vs what is rumoured to be going on with Raz and what they have done in recent years tells me we should put more stock in what they do as opposed to what they say because their PR just seems to be all over the place and contradicts Conroy's vision actually is.
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Old 01-15-2026, 01:43 PM   #21633
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In order to be Buffalo West you need to draft top 9 for ten straight years and you have to trade away 5 of those drafted players before they turn 26. The Flames don’t make either of those criteria.
Lol you can argue whatever you want. But both organizations have had very little success over the past 20 years.

And their ownership groups have been a big reason why.
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Exactly! Not a monkey smoking so I agree!
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Lol you can argue whatever you want. But both organizations have had very little success over the past 20 years.

And their ownership groups have been a big reason why.
Well a big difference is every inside that knows something about the Flames says that Edwards is hands off and lets the GM have complete autonomy. That is a pretty significant difference.
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Old 01-15-2026, 01:45 PM   #21638
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The monkey has succumbed to peer pressure. Sad.
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I know that, they have traded all their players for firsts or seconds not other players being the main part of the return

Its not rocket science
Sorry, I wasn't directing that at you, but at Murray Edwards and others. They think saying 'rebuild' is like saying Voldemort or something.

I agree with you, it's pretty simple to see what the team has done and is doing and it's pretty clear it's a rebuild.
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Old 01-15-2026, 01:46 PM   #21640
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