01-14-2026, 04:06 PM
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#5241
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I found the vast majority of those novels to be absolute garbage lol. And I frequently consume low level science fiction writing.
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01-14-2026, 04:08 PM
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#5242
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Yeah so many of them got the characterizations totally wrong.
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01-14-2026, 04:13 PM
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#5243
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Location: Alberta
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S2 of Picard level character/species ####ery, indeed.
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01-14-2026, 04:20 PM
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#5244
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A young Worf, away from home for the first time. Still not completely comfortable with himself, and still not able to fully suppress his most Klingon urges, when he meets who I can only assume is his first girlfriend.
If that novel doesn't end with her in one of those beeping Captain Pike chairs, colour me disapointed.
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01-14-2026, 04:32 PM
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#5245
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I hope there's a whole chapter dedicated to the glory of the soccer match!
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01-14-2026, 06:33 PM
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I didn't read a lot of Star Trek Novels, but I have to admit I picked up the Shatner novels that involved the mirror universe and thought they were actually quite good. Especially describing Tiberious as the Emperor and how he executed most of the enterprise crew for treason. And making Picard in the mirror universe this whiny boot licker with a pony tail.
But the books were actually decently good.
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01-15-2026, 07:23 AM
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#5247
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There was a DS9 book where most of the main characters got killed in messy ways, like O'Brien forgetting to set the timer on a grenade and blowing himself up, before everything got reversed in the end. That one was pretty cool.
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01-15-2026, 08:36 AM
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#5248
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Buckle up kids...
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01-15-2026, 08:56 AM
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#5249
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I didn't read a lot of Star Trek Novels, but I have to admit I picked up the Shatner novels that involved the mirror universe and thought they were actually quite good. Especially describing Tiberious as the Emperor and how he executed most of the enterprise crew for treason. And making Picard in the mirror universe this whiny boot licker with a pony tail.
But the books were actually decently good.
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A psychologist could read a lot into these choices.
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01-15-2026, 09:03 AM
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#5250
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There was a DS9 book where most of the main characters got killed in messy ways, like O'Brien forgetting to set the timer on a grenade and blowing himself up, before everything got reversed in the end. That one was pretty cool.
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I've read quite a few when I was younger, there was a good DS9 one...I think it was called 'The Big Game' and another good TNG one was 'Masks.'
Basically...Star Trek books were essentially 'Harlequin Romance Novels for Star Trek Nerds.'
Nothing wrong with that. I think there was some better Star Trek content in those crap books than in most of Discovery.
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01-15-2026, 09:16 AM
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#5251
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SA was released last night so there's already lots of reaction to it.
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01-15-2026, 09:17 AM
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#5252
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Nothing wrong with that. I think there was some better Star Trek content in those crap books than in most of Discovery.
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Oh dear god it's true.
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01-15-2026, 09:59 AM
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#5253
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A psychologist could read a lot into these choices.
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TBF, the trope of Kirk as some sex obsessed space philandering bozo is totally inaccurate, and likely based more on real life Shatner + a reflection of real life shatner in the shadow of Picard's obvious diplomatic greatness.
But Kirk the character was actually an amazing captain who played mostly everything by the book. Especially TV series kirk. I can see why Shatner struggled mentally with the pop culture image of his character and the inescapable reality that he is kind of a chode.
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01-15-2026, 10:05 AM
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#5254
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Originally Posted by Locke
I've read quite a few when I was younger, there was a good DS9 one...I think it was called 'The Big Game' and another good TNG one was 'Masks.'
Basically...Star Trek books were essentially 'Harlequin Romance Novels for Star Trek Nerds.'
Nothing wrong with that. I think there was some better Star Trek content in those crap books than in most of Discovery.
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A couple of TNG novels which were excellent were Q in Law (Q meets Lwaxana Troi - it was hilarious and would've been a classic episode) and Vendetta (the Borg return en masse, but someone has revived The Doomsday Machine to attack them and the Federation isn't sure whose side they're on).
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01-15-2026, 03:50 PM
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ALL ABOARD!
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I watched the first two episodes of Academy. It wasn't as bad as I was expecting but it wasn't great either. The first episode was better than the second. It had some decent action, a bit of world building and some of the characters are interesting. Lots of science mumbo-jumbo to fill plot holes.
The second was a more standard Trek episode but there are just too many annoying characters. Maybe I'm showing my age but the teenagers/early 20s drama isn't for me.
I'm still annoyed they keep introducing these neurotic characters who the Federation deems suitable for "military" enrolment.
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01-15-2026, 04:19 PM
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#5256
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I'm still annoyed they keep introducing these neurotic characters who the Federation deems suitable for "military" enrolment.
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Also known as "The Tilly Effect"
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01-15-2026, 04:34 PM
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I watched the first two episodes of Academy. It wasn't as bad as I was expecting but it wasn't great either. The first episode was better than the second. It had some decent action, a bit of world building and some of the characters are interesting. Lots of science mumbo-jumbo to fill plot holes.
The second was a more standard Trek episode but there are just too many annoying characters. Maybe I'm showing my age but the teenagers/early 20s drama isn't for me.
I'm still annoyed they keep introducing these neurotic characters who the Federation deems suitable for "military" enrolment.
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Appreciate you taking one for the team. I'm open to it not sucking, but my expectation is Discovery without Saru.
So I'll wait for someone here to indicate it isn't a total waste of time after watching the full season.
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01-15-2026, 05:55 PM
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ALL ABOARD!
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The other thing that's going to get stale is the cadets being smarter than the officers/instructors.
I'll keep watching but I'm a glutton for Trek.
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01-15-2026, 06:40 PM
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#5259
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"It wasn't as bad as I was expecting but it wasn't great either."
That pretty much sums up my thoughts too. Although, unlike you, I thought the second episode was better than the first. Half the first episode was Holly Hunter finding new and weird ways to sit in the Captain's chair.
The high school drama will definitely get annoying. I did like that they didn't try to give Jay-Den some kind of rough Klingon pronunciation of his name... Nope, he's just Jayden.
It was certainly better than the Section 31 movie and the later seasons of Discovery.
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01-15-2026, 06:42 PM
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Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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I hate Tilly. I love ####ting on discovery.
Barclay existed long before Tilly.
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