Israel declares war on Hamas

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Language

You’re right Bagor. Who is war criminal Netanyahu to suggest that Hezbollah be disarmed.

He's no one credible to be listened to. He's a wanted war criminal. A genocidal maniac.

Originally Posted by Language

Perhaps the freedom fighter Hezbollah, Hamas, Houti’s and other Jihadists can continue to wage their holy wars against Israel, continue to lose, and then gain the pity of everyone in the west about the evil colonial settlers.

No one is pitying Hezbollah, Hamas et al. You got a source where everyone in the west has been pitying them?

But there is lots of sympathy towards the Palestinian people. The civilians. The murdered children. The WCNSFs

It appears you aren't able to differentiate between the two.

And yes. Deliberate mass murder of children and civilians is evil. Agreed?

[Fuzz]

Israel has given the go-ahead for the construction of 764 more houses in three Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank, a decision likely to further stoke tensions as a watchdog group accused the Israeli government of moving toward "de facto annexation" of the Palestinian territory.


Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said Wednesday that the Higher Planning Council, the body in charge of settlement construction plans in the West Bank, approved 478, 230, and 56 housing units in the Hashmonaim, Beitar Illit and Givat Ze'ev settlements, respectively.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel...010575?cmp=rss


Gee, it's baffling why others don't trust Israel and maybe try to blow them up occasionally.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

https://apple.news/ArFSFV-4EQVW_zDgeO4WK2Q



Great that they had success in getting food to Gaza citizens, as opposed to Hamas looting and profiting off the aid.

This is complete BS. The sites saw daily shootings and killings...

https://web.archive.org/web/20250813...ng-at-ghf-hubs

Since those sites opened in May, they have become synonymous with “stampedes, suffocating crowd surges, violent looting and lethal ‘crowd control’ measures”, MSF said in its reports.

A significant number of patients from GHF sites in Khan Younis arrived with gunshot wounds to their lower limbs bearing a precision that “strongly suggests intentional targeting of people within the distribution sites, rather than accidental or indiscriminate fire”, MSF said.

They famously hired plenty of people from the US islamophobic biker gang "Infidels MC" to do "security".

GHF aid packages were also designed to includes plenty of things that need water and cooking to be edible, like pasta, flour, dry lentils and dry soup mix, without including the water needed for cooking, let alone the water that would be needed for drinking.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/...u-need-to-know

The calories were capped by Israel government a maximum 1700 calories per day, which is below the minimum daily requirement of all men and most women. (World Food Programme recommend 2100 calories when delivering aid.)

The distribution sites were however also open very arbitrarily, often only a few hours or even just a few minutes per day, which obviously encouraged stampedes.

In short, the GHF was deliberately designed to be a tool continued genocide, killing, subjugation, starvation and humiliation, and obviously to block actual aid from reaching the Palestinians.

The genocide and ethnic cleansing very much continues, just less spectacular and less in the news.

[Fuzz]

I think you missed the point of his comment. If you are genocide supporter, this is indeed great news. For anyone who doesn't support genocide, it's far less so.

[Doctorfever]

There was no deliberate starvation. If you are trying to starve people, you don’t bring them food. The purpose of delivering food themselves rather than letting the inept programs in place do it is to keep Hamas from stealing the food from the civilians.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

There was no deliberate starvation. If you are trying to starve people, you don’t bring them food. The purpose of delivering food themselves rather than letting the inept programs in place do it is to keep Hamas from stealing the food from the civilians.

Ya, you are right, inept delivery is far worse than just shooting them when they come for food. Bigly improvement.


If you are trying to starve people and attempt to maintain a public image that the smooth brained fools will post about gleefully on a message board, you do it by provided less calories than is needed to survive. They still starve, but you get the benefit of simpletons not realizing how evil you are.

[_Q_]

Not many genocide deniers around anymore other than Doctorfever. Even the most hard core zionists on this site have kind of retreated.

So congrats I guess.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Are they still racking up war crimes over there?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Are they still racking up war crimes over there?

I dunno, let's see what the daily news headlines are:

Israel gives legal status to 19 West Bank settlements, media reports

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ts-2025-12-12/

Well that sounds like a good faith move towards peace. Should probably give them the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Hundreds of thousands of displaced Gazans face flooding of their tents and shelters by heavy rains, and materials for shelters and sandbags are not being allowed to enter the enclave, the U.N. International Organization for Migration said on Friday.

https://www.reuters.com/business/env...ed-2025-12-12/

Preventing delivery of shelters and sand bags is obviously justified to stop Hamas. It's a shame I've been told they don't control borders though, so we can file this one under terrorist propaganda. And there's what, only a million or so homeless? and they need more tents? Sounds greedy.

Hrmm, let's see what else we have...

A three-year-old girl was killed by Israeli forces in Gaza on Sunday, according to local sources inside the Palestinian territory.

Ahed Tareq al-Bayouk was reportedly playing near her family's tent in Mawasi, Rafah, southern Gaza, when she was shot.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqxqz4227x7o

Well ####, there it is. I really thought we could go a week without the IDF being forced to take down a junior terrorist like that. She must have been coming right for them. Will they never learn? You can't outcrawl the IDF.

[PepsiFree]

Fuzz, we all know the real issue is that aid boxes that land in the ocean aren’t being counted as delivered.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Fuzz, we all know the real issue is that aid boxes that land in the ocean aren’t being counted as delivered.

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

OK, this is misinformation so we’ll call it out.

Happy?

Short memory?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Short memory?

Having more trouble than usual this morning?

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

I’m old enough to remember people in this thread parsing definitions on weapons and pagers and intent.

Did we ever figure that out? Was it one of those ‘benefit of the doubt’ situations?

Good times.

[Doctorfever]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/h...dy-taking-over

Hamas said Sunday it will dissolve its existing government in Gaza once a Palestinian technocratic leadership committee takes over the territory, as mandated under the U.S.-brokered peace plan. But the group gave no specifics on when the change will occur.

Hamas and the rival Palestinian Authority, the Palestinians' internationally recognized representative, have not announced the names of the technocrats, who are not supposed to be politically affiliated, and it remains unclear if they will be cleared by Israel and the U.S.

WATCH: Trump warns Hamas must disarm for Gaza peace deal to reach next phase

The "Board of Peace," an international body led by Trump, is supposed to oversee the government and other aspects of the ceasefire that took effect on Oct. 10, including disarming Hamas and deploying an international security force. The board's members have not been announced.

Meanwhile, the post-ceasefire death toll continued to rise in Gaza, with Israeli gunfire killing three Palestinians, according to Palestinian hospital officials.

Hope that this fragile ceasefire holds.

Doe the civil unrest in Iran have any impact? Maybe not an immediate impact, but maybe it slows or stops funds that Hamas or Hezbolah rely on?

[MrButtons]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/h...dy-taking-over



Hope that this fragile ceasefire holds.

Doe the civil unrest in Iran have any impact? Maybe not an immediate impact, but maybe it slows or stops funds that Hamas or Hezbolah rely on?

Wouldnt this - Meanwhile, the post-ceasefire death toll continued to rise in Gaza, with Israeli gunfire killing three Palestinians, according to Palestinian hospital officials. - mean that the ceasefire is not holding?

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by MrButtons

Wouldnt this - Meanwhile, the post-ceasefire death toll continued to rise in Gaza, with Israeli gunfire killing three Palestinians, according to Palestinian hospital officials. - mean that the ceasefire is not holding?

Yes. At best, it’s “fragile”.

[afc wimbledon]

Gaza's future likely lies in Iran, if the regime falls that is the end of Hamas and Hezbollah as militant forces, they may have the skill to morph into solely administration but even that seems unlikely, in the long run that is probably the best for individual Palestinians although the end of any hope for an independent Palestine, not that they had anything more than hope, so the reality that this is all they will ever have and maybe they are better off leaving might be the best outcome for them

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Yes. At best, it’s “fragile”.

No. It's non existent.

Over 400 people don't get killed in a ceasefire.

There is no ceasefire. Israel has not ceased firing on Gaza children.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Bagor

No. It's non existent.

Over 400 people don't get killed in a ceasefire.

There is no ceasefire. Israel has not ceased firing on Gaza children.

Any thoughts on how, if at all, the potential fall of Iran might slow or stop funding Hamas / Hezbolah?

I think it’s fantastic. Maybe Gaza can have leadership that isn’t terrorists and be able to form their own state.

Or am I way off here? You would think the free Palestine group would be over the moon. This might actually help to free Palestine from Hamas!