Or maybe messaging generally reached normal people who were unaware they needed to save, and once they got the message they didn't pretend their IQ was 45, they just started cutting back in simple ways?
I think you vastly over-estimate the number of people who read your constant whining.
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The messaging will end up being, I didnt do schit and nothing bad happened and i didnt participate in Simon Says. it sucks but here on planet earth where i reside, this is the way it will be forever more.
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The messaging will end up being, I didnt do schit and nothing bad happened and i didnt participate in Simon Says. it sucks but here on planet earth where i reside, this is the way it will be forever more.
Unfortunately yes. Now, I too didnt do or change a whole lot beyond shorter showers, fewer flushes and stretching out laundry and dishes a few days.
Honestly though, I think we need some SkyNet nonsense where all auto-flushing urinals in restaurants and offices are connected through AI and can be controlled by Terminators.
Because if they auto-flush you cant choose not to.
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From Farkas on Reddit. Sounds like if all goes to plan we should be back to normal soon.
* We’re slowly refilling the feeder main which will take several days as it is seven kilometres of pipe. This water is coming from the Bearspaw Plant and Bow River, not the Glenmore Reservoir, so it doesn’t affect daily usage targets.
Wait, we are refilling it from the Bow river? How can that be potable? I don't understand.
Also, once it is fixed, can they run it at say 75% to reduce the pressure on the pipe but still provide sufficient water? Does it work that way?
I heard this segment is not fed by cisterns but pressure. So it sees the cyclic pressure ups and downs which is a major risk factor in pipeline integrity management. Pressure cycles are brutal for materials. How many times thd pipe has been shut in is a huge part of the risk formulas. Startup you wanna go slow. Shutdown is never slow.
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It'll help, but they also need to consider replacing the small pipe under John Laurie Blvd with a much larger pipe. Currently the small pipe brings water from the NW part of the city to the Charleswood pump station and the North Haven reservoir. But the pipe is so small that not much water flows through it (compared to what's needed).
Think of it like a traffic jam where the rate of cars approaching a bottleneck far exceeds the rate at which they can proceed through the bottleneck. You end up with a maximum rate of cars moving through the bottleneck, no matter how many cars are waiting for a chance to move through.
People in the NW saving water is like adding more cars to the traffic jam - unfortunately, it's not going to result in cars moving faster through the bottleneck.
A much larger pipe from Edgemont to Charleswood and then to North Haven would mean a huge increase in the amount of water from Bearspaw that could flow to the rest of the city when the 16 Ave feeder main is unavailable. Right now the NW is teeming with water, but has no way of getting it to the rest of the city fast enough. One would assume that swapping out the pipe for a larger one (or simply adding more beside it) would alleviate this problem, at least in the short and medium term.
IMO, it seems egregious that this hasn't been done already. Is there something I'm missing, or is it simply a case of decades of city councils choosing not to address our poorly planned water system?
This map is much better for visualizing it:
They're running a big pipe up near the west and then north city limits which will let them move a lot more water directly.
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Or maybe messaging generally reached normal people who were unaware they needed to save, and once they got the message they didn't pretend their IQ was 45, they just started cutting back in simple ways?
It's just one day, but seeing as we were so much lower on a Saturday it may indicate the benefit of WFH.
Also I think some of the high numbers early last week where when Bowness/Montgomery came off boil advisory and had to flush their pipes. But that would have come from Bearspaw and not been impactful to the issue.
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* We’re slowly refilling the feeder main which will take several days as it is seven kilometres of pipe. This water is coming from the Bearspaw Plant and Bow River, not the Glenmore Reservoir, so it doesn’t affect daily usage targets.
Wait, we are refilling it from the Bow river? How can that be potable? I don't understand.
Also, once it is fixed, can they run it at say 75% to reduce the pressure on the pipe but still provide sufficient water? Does it work that way?
Bow River -> Bearspaw Plant -> this feedermain
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They're running a big pipe up near the west and then north city limits which will let them move a lot more water directly.
Laying pipe along the perimeter of the city seems like a lot of extra kms of pipe to lay down, compared to just upgrading the John Laurie pipe. Unless there's logistical considerations I'm not aware of...
Laying pipe along the perimeter of the city seems like a lot of extra kms of pipe to lay down, compared to just upgrading the John Laurie pipe. Unless there's logistical considerations I'm not aware of...
The North Servicing project isn't just about pipe, it's also upgrading pump stations and reservoirs which would significantly help with redundancy but also better serve growth on the north side of the city. The line on John Laurie (which actually cuts down Brisebois and along Capri Ave before merging with the spiderweb of mains around the 14th St Reservoir and Pump Station) would help handle some redundancy, but is limited on servicing growth.
Basically you're laying down a lot of extra kms, but you're getting a lot more out of it as well.
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Laying pipe along the perimeter of the city seems like a lot of extra kms of pipe to lay down, compared to just upgrading the John Laurie pipe. Unless there's logistical considerations I'm not aware of...
The pipe you reference is only redundancy for this very specific situation, which should hopefully be moot within a couple years. NCWS is better redundancy and necessary to serve growth (sprawl) in the deep north.
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