I'm all for pitching in and reducing my water usage, but what about the two major bottling plants in Calgary? It is tough to take the city's request seriously when Coca-Cola and Pepsi are allowed to bottle and sell water without restriction.
What I can't understand at this point is why not just turn off the water by rotating basis if and I mean if Calgarian's don't actually get the message? In a lot of countries with water issues due to drought, insufficient rain, treatment capacity etc, there sometimes is no water for an hour or two due to capacity issues. I am not referring to 3rd world nation's either. This could be timed for less busy hours such as middle of the night, early morning, late night in areas with relatively minor disruption.
Obviously this is a last resort but let's get real, how many people are still paying attention every day about these details? Red zone this and 10 million liter deficit that. If the taps are dry, the message get's sent.
This would likely increase consumption as people hoard for their time being shut off.
Voluntary restrictions first to stave off mandatory ones appears to work well with reasoning effectiveness each round but it does meaningfully reduce consumption and it doesn’t cost anyone anything. It’s absolutely the right thing to do.
Secondly it depends whether the issue is supply or distribution whether that actually works.
Is it not appropriate to hold people responsible? As noted, this was a known problem during Nenshi’s time, and it was not investigated/actioned.
Your misogynistic comment towards the Premiere is also reprehensible, but seeing as your username honours a wife beater…go figure.
The Premier forgots is that under the current rules of the Municpal Government Act, municipal decision are up to a vote of Council (and not solely the Mayor of the day)
If Nenshi is to blame, why is it not shared with Bronconier?
Or McIver who served many. Many terms on Council.
I will also point out that Farkas also served on Council in the term prior to the first pipe break.
Is the Mayor a Chief executive officer managing daily operations of a billion dollar corporation? Or is the Mayor Chairman of the Board?
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The city is exploring moving to a tiered system in which there would be a rate charged for a standard level of usage and a higher charge for anything beyond that.
“The best parallel I can think of is your phone plan. It’s as if your first four gigabytes of data are cheaper, and then your next two gigabytes of data are a little more expensive,” said Rajabali.
“If you know that, you might be more conscious of whether you really need to stream a video versus just listening to the audio version.”
When the boil advisory was lifted apparently those homes were supposed to flush their taps. I head on the radio run bathtub for 10 minutes and then each tap in the house for 5 mins. So that can't have helped overall consumption
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When the boil advisory was lifted apparently those homes were supposed to flush their taps. I head on the radio run bathtub for 10 minutes and then each tap in the house for 5 mins. So that can't have helped overall consumption
True. That's a lot of water, and we "only" nudged upward slightly, maybe we'll see things getting back down to a sustainable level today. Or... we suck.
I have told my greasy teen to stretch out his interval between shorter showers. You're welcome.
There are underground cisterns scatter around high places. These act as buffer tanks and natural water pressure providers. At night when usage is low the city is able to refill them for the next day(during the day they are filling as well) but what the red means is we are drawing more during the day than can be recovered overnight, so the next day they are 80% full, then 70%...and so on. Once zero, we lose water pressure which is the big issue for fire fighting.
But another issue exists, which I think is the bigger one. Glenmore can process around 500ML a day. If we need more than that, they need to compromise processing, which means releasing less or unprocessed water into the system. Once this happens, we'd all be on boil water, and they'd have to flush everything before being deemed safe, which I think is a week or so process.
Going on memory from last time here, feel free to correct me. The 'ol pickle ain't what it used to be.
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I think we’re doing the best we can. You’ve already got guys in the random thought thread talking about how they lick their fingers clean after ####ting instead of washing them. There’s really nothing else to be done.
Heard from my manager that the mayor encouraged work from home (I guess I use less water because I wear my pjs all day), he pointed that out to the higher ups, so far silence.. they'll probably let us know the answer is "no" a week after the restrictions are lifted.
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I think we’re doing the best we can. You’ve already got guys in the random thought thread talking about how they lick their fingers clean after ####ting instead of washing them. There’s really nothing else to be done.
I will admit to a little bit more complacency vs. last time. I'm very much a team player and like to do my small part, so my complacency isn't rooted in individualistic "freedom" stuff. Maybe a little bit of fatigue, and maybe a bit of now-incorrect thinking of "it won't be as bad because it is winter".
I'm already pretty efficient with water, and while I haven't done the "navy showers" again, I have shortened mine. Last time I was catching water in the kitchen that was used for rinsing and then would use it in the garden, but that seems rather pointless at this time of year. I already run the dishwasher, laundry, etc. only when full. All of my toilets, shower heads, etc. have been retrofitted over the years to higher efficiency options.
Aside from navy showers again, there isn't much more I can do. I suppose I could catch water in the kitchen and put it in the toilet tanks for a future flush? But that seems rather extreme, even for me, but maybe that'll prevent the guilt of resisting the navy showers again.
There are underground cisterns scatter around high places. These act as buffer tanks and natural water pressure providers. At night when usage is low the city is able to refill them for the next day(during the day they are filling as well) but what the red means is we are drawing more during the day than can be recovered overnight, so the next day they are 80% full, then 70%...and so on. Once zero, we lose water pressure which is the big issue for fire fighting.
But another issue exists, which I think is the bigger one. Glenmore can process around 500ML a day. If we need more than that, they need to compromise processing, which means releasing less or unprocessed water into the system. Once this happens, we'd all be on boil water, and they'd have to flush everything before being deemed safe, which I think is a week or so process.
Going on memory from last time here, feel free to correct me. The 'ol pickle ain't what it used to be.
And that assumes that they have the water to flush. Not an expert but what I've seen is that if we run out we'll all be on boil water until the spring.
Heard from my manager that the mayor encouraged work from home (I guess I use less water because I wear my pjs all day), he pointed that out to the higher ups, so far silence.. they'll probably let us know the answer is "no" a week after the restrictions are lifted.
I'm a proponent of working from home (I do full-time). But does this really save much water? I still shower before work, and use the bathroom during the work day.
I suppose working from home gives people "permission" not to shower daily, so that can save a bit. But aside from letting the toilet fill with piss all day vs. having urinals flushing after every use, I'm not sure where the savings come in.
Of course the city is trying to set an example, every little bit helps, and it is better to use a carrot vs. a stick. Which answers my question - it is more about optics and encouraging others, and that's fine with me. I just see the savings being nominal, if anything, but... every little bit helps.
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