2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

When did I say that? It is pointless to even argue this because multiple insiders have said Kadri is worth a lot if you trade him today.

Don’t think I ever said you said that, just wondering if the offer was less than a 1st if your advice would be to hold on to Kadri, that is all.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Don’t think I ever said you said that, just wondering if the offer was less than a 1st if your advice would be to hold on to Kadri, that is all.

Royle had reported we could have gotten the Brock Nelson return or more at last year's deadline but we said no. That includes a 1st, 3rd and Ritchie.

I would want at minimum a 1st, and by all trade rumors teams are willing to pay up if we decide he is on the market.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Exciting hockey tends to be what others would call East West hockey - something the Flames system does not promote.

But there are lots of players on this team that can play that way - and often people here get mad when they do because it is high risk.

Hudy, Kadri, Sharky, Frost, Zary, Coronato, Klapka, Popsicle - all guys that can play that way, although it's debatable whether they should as only a few have elite skill. All of these guys have adjusted to play a low event team game.

It seems the more they play the team game, the better the results and the inverse is true when they don't.

So maybe we want exciting. Huska wants employment and a long NHL coaching career, so we get low event.

When we have more talent, I don't think the style will be as oppressive.

That's because as you just mentioned this forward group is built with East/West players who cannot play to their abilities in Huska's system. There is nothing in Huska's past to make anyone remotely think the way he coached is going to change if we get more offensive talent. We already have decent offensive talent but they are not allowed to play that way. That's why a guy like Huberdeau who was an 80-100 point player before coming here is now a 40-50 point guy. What you think he forgot how to play? He had to reinvent himself from one of the league's best playmakers into a gritty plug.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Royle had reported we could have gotten the Brock Nelson return or more at last year's deadline but we said no. That includes a 1st, 3rd and Ritchie.

I would want at minimum a 1st, and by all trade rumors teams are willing to pay up if we decide he is on the market.

I've never heard that Kadri was even considered by the Avs at that point, and back then Kadri had a full NMC, and didn't want to move (said so publicly IIRC).

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I've never heard that Kadri was even considered by the Avs at that point, and back then Kadri had a full NMC, and didn't want to move (said so publicly IIRC).

He’s exaggerating again. I’m pretty sure all it was that Royle figured the Avs would have traded the same for Kadri. It was public that Kadri didn’t want to go anywhere

[wpgflamesfan]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

We should add Bruz to that I suppose.

I haven’t seen that weighted TOI stat before. I imagine Wolf helps it alot.

His nine games are included and yeah going forward if he keeps on playing that’ll definitely be a positive.

I actually just downloaded all the data myself and ran the math myself. Wolf actually doesn’t impact the numbers at all since it’s just skaters.

[Royle9]

It’s very widely known that the Avs wanted Kadri last deadline, but at that time Kadri had full control and preferred to stay in Canada/push for a playoff spot because Calgary was once again right around it at the deadline.

Kadri > Nelson
Kadri obviously had a history for them, I’m not as connected as Diss is to the Kadri situation but I was told he was aware they were poking around at him.

Either way, it didn’t happen for the same reasons it probably doesn’t happen again, that being CGY once again has cemented themselves in the middle and just outside a wildcard spot.
They won’t add (which is being argued as why they are “rebuilding”) but by not subtracting the 3 guys who are your top guys you’re essentially lowering your chances significantly at drafting high.

With that said it remains to be seen if Craig moves anyone other than Andersson so I’m not going to speak in hypotheticals, but there’s significant interest in both so it comes down to Craig wanting to move them pending the value is there.

Or do we let the players decide their faith again and potentially end up mushy middle drafting again? It’s 100% in managements hands.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I don’t decide what you are entitled to do. And I’m getting tired of the whose side you’re on debate.

I’m just saying that someone expressing their feelings about the team doesn’t mean that they are “challenging” your opinion. A lot of posts are people just saying things. They are not quoting or referencing other posters. It might appear totally wrong to you, I get that. But the effect is a few people arguing the same things over and over again.

I never said they were challenging my opinion. I'm saying I get to challenge what I disagree with, or moreover, what is just unfactual.

People can talk about what vibes they have all the time. I prefer talking about what is actually happening based on actual events and actions, versus what people think is happening based on feelings and interpretations of third hand reports of management.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan

We’re the 13th oldest team in the league (at 28.8 years) if you weight it by TOI and have been that exact same age for the first 40 games of the past two years. Outside of kuznetsov and maybe Klapka we’re not really relying on any younger players more than last season.

This speaks volumes to me.

The team loyalists seem to think we've made enough of a shift to classify ourselves as rebuilding by definition, but I don't think we've shifted nearly enough to say we're progressing towards the next core that will carry this team into the future.

We're still learning on veterans who aren't getting any younger.

Need to start the passing of the baton.

(I am happy with the integration of the two young d-men, and it's a start).

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I wonder if Flames fans would do Coleman at 50% retained and the Flames 2028 4th to the Oilers for their 2028 1st and Isaac Howard. Seems like it would be a fair trade, probably helps the Flames draft position and it would hurt the Vegas pick.

I will go pick up Coleman personally and drive him to the airport

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Royle9

It’s 100% in managements hands.

It really isn’t though. Coleman has a lot of control and Kadri probably has one or two teams that aren’t on his list that might actually make a move for him.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Bonded

It really isn’t though. Coleman has a lot of control and Kadri probably has one or two teams that aren’t on his list that might actually make a move for him.

It is.
Both guys have said they would move if the Flames feel it’s better for the franchise.

No they won’t accept trades to doomed franchises like Buffalo etc, but their “lists” of acceptable teams are far greater than you might think.

I’d argue that 20+ teams would make offers if Craig came out and declared both guys are 100% available.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Sure, but that's a different point. I was talking about this "veterans playing safe boring hockey" notion and asking who it applies to - which players exactly? Not those guys. Not Rasmus. Coleman? Backlund? Lomberg? Frost? I wouldn't describe it for those guys either.

I'd say Hanley plays boring hockey, but only as a complement.

Is it a compliment to Hanley, or is Hanley’s boring hockey to complement his def. partner?

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I wonder if Flames fans would do Coleman at 50% retained and the Flames 2028 4th to the Oilers for their 2028 1st and Isaac Howard. Seems like it would be a fair trade, probably helps the Flames draft position and it would hurt the Vegas pick.

No.
Never help the Oilers.
And I wouldn’t do that to Coleman either.

[Lewis_D]

I just hope the org has a plan to move out some vets in the next calendar year in order to bring in some of our current youngsters into the fold.

When posters talk about selling off the vets the emphasis is usually around the opportunity to tank and get a top 3 pick, which is something I agree would be fantastic, but we've seen now that players like Bru, Kuznetsov, Parekh, Gridin & Kerins, Honzek to a lesser extent have all showed they're capable of being regular NHLers.

An ideal situation for me would be moving out Andersson before the deadline for a good return, Sharky plays good hockey up until the deadline and we trade him for whatever draft pick we can get & call up one of said youngsters, move Kadri and Coleman in the offseason. You'd still have a good amount of vets still around while building out a young core of players, and if the team does regress (which I think they would without those guys) next season can be the one where the tank is truly on!

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I never said they were challenging my opinion. I'm saying I get to challenge what I disagree with, or moreover, what is just unfactual.

People can talk about what vibes they have all the time. I prefer talking about what is actually happening based on actual events and actions, versus what people think is happening based on feelings and interpretations of third hand reports of management.

But do you have the challenge it every day 50 times ? We all get it by now.

At least challenge by providing some actual stats or research to provide something mildly interesting to the thread . Trust me - everyone knows you opinion.

And talk about “what is actually happening “ - NOTHING is or has happened for 18 months . Yet you still post 50 times a day !

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Royle9

It is.
Both guys have said they would move if the Flames feel it’s better for the franchise.

No they won’t accept trades to doomed franchises like Buffalo etc, but their “lists” of acceptable teams are far greater than you might think.

I’d argue that 20+ teams would make offers if Craig came out and declared both guys are 100% available.

Doubt 20+ teams would be in on Kadri and their minds very well may change as the team gets closer to a playoff spot.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

But do you have the challenge it every day 50 times ? We all get it by now.

At least challenge by providing some actual stats or research to provide something mildly interesting to the thread . Trust me - everyone knows you opinion.

And talk about “what is actually happening “ - NOTHING is or has happened for 18 months . Yet you still post 50 times a day !

As long as people keep posting stuff I disagree with or morover is unfactual, yes I will respond. And I post as much in the way of facts as anyone. Your posts are long winded diatribes with almost no actual content - just longer opinion statements. At least mine are short.

As for what is actually happening - no trades have been made, true. But people assume (as opposed to know) that no trades have even been discussed.

And no moves to make the team immediately better have been made. That is actually happening. And people ignore it.

ETA: My average is something like 16 posts.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Royle9

It is.
Both guys have said they would move if the Flames feel it’s better for the franchise.

No they won’t accept trades to doomed franchises like Buffalo etc, but their “lists” of acceptable teams are far greater than you might think.

I’d argue that 20+ teams would make offers if Craig came out and declared both guys are 100% available.

Thank you for hopefully clarifying this for people who keep repeating the opposite. And it is indeed ownership/management holding us back potentially and not the players themselves.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Royle9

It is.
Both guys have said they would move if the Flames feel it’s better for the franchise.

No they won’t accept trades to doomed franchises like Buffalo etc, but their “lists” of acceptable teams are far greater than you might think.

I’d argue that 20+ teams would make offers if Craig came out and declared both guys are 100% available.

We know they will move, but I have my doubts about their willingness to move just anywhere. Especially Kadri.

Are there seriously 20 teams that (a) need Kadri; (b) can afford Kadri - both interms of cap and compensation in the trade; and (c) are not on his NT list (which we know includes teams like the Hurricanes)?

I think they should look at Ottawa. I know he'd go there, since he was vocally open to Montreal and obviously Toronto, and I think they need a 2C. Hell, Montreal may still be on the table since I don't think Danault solves anything for them.