2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[HockeyKhan]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yeah exactly. There’s also the potential KK works better here too.

If the Flames can pull KK and a 1st in a Coleman deal? There’s nothing but potential upside in a move like that. I’d be happy to see that come in

If KK is actually just a cap dump, we should be getting a lot more than just a first and him for Coleman. Coleman is worth a first on his own.

[Flamescuprun2018]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I don't think they being closer to a playoff spot changes anything with Andersson.

I do worry it will make them less willing to move Coleman or Kadri, who are just as important to move this year IMO due to age and contract status to maximize value.

I am very worried this hot streak to the mushy middle will do just that.

We don't maximize the returns on our aging vets and we end up drafting in the teens.

Never felt so frustrated with December wins which is so ridiculous. What a weird time to be a diehard fan.

Conroy has a choice to make if he is serious about long term success.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by HockeyKhan

If KK is actually just a cap dump, we should be getting a lot more than just a first and him for Coleman. Coleman is worth a first on his own.

Conroy is correct to set a high price for Coleman. 2x Stanley Cup winners who are 20 goal scorers and amongst the best defensive wingers in hockey should have a high value. Don’t know if that value is KK and a first, maybe the Hurricanes throw in another prospect like Cerrato but I do trust Conroy to know what the price should be.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018

I am very worried this hot streak to the mushy middle will do just that.

We don't maximize the returns on our aging vets and we end up drafting in the teens.

Never felt so frustrated with December wins which is so ridiculous. What a weird time to be a diehard fan.

Conroy has a choice to make if he is serious about long term success.

This is exactly how I feel too. I want the team to have success but you need talent to actually win in the playoffs. While it’s fun to potentially make it, it’s hard knowing that you’re going your head stoved in. Like woo we get to be the first team going home. Yay.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by HockeyKhan

If KK is actually just a cap dump, we should be getting a lot more than just a first and him for Coleman. Coleman is worth a first on his own.

I don’t know.

KK as a cap dump works for Carolina, but there’s a NHL player in there and he’s a centre - which is something we have a massive need for. It would be very keeping with the Flames approach in trade so far under the regime (something for now, something for the future).

Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018

I am very worried this hot streak to the mushy middle will do just that.

We don't maximize the returns on our aging vets and we end up drafting in the teens.

Never felt so frustrated with December wins which is so ridiculous. What a weird time to be a diehard fan.

Conroy has a choice to make if he is serious about long term success.

Andersson is the only one that HAS to be dealt with, so it may just play out that way. Yeah, I think it’s a brutally stupid approach (but hey, Maloney ain’t the worst actively in the business for nothing!), but it’s still a step forward. Mushy middle likely still the outcome, but the Flames are the Flames at the end of the day. Can’t be mad at a rock for being a rock.

It just means we’re likely right back here next year in a similar spot having the exact same conversation (beginning to feel like the Flames organization has a level of loyalty from their fans that they just don’t deserve).

It could go the other way, but I think it’s completely reasonable to think that right now - Andersson is likely to be the only one who gets dealt. I just hope they absolutely nail the return, because it taking this long to trade Andersson is notably lowering the value of the Flames 1st round pick.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I don’t know.

KK as a cap dump works for Carolina, but there’s a NHL player in there and he’s a centre - which is something we have a massive need for. It would be very keeping with the Flames approach in trade so far under the regime (something for now, something for the future).



Andersson is the only one that HAS to be dealt with, so it may just play out that way. Yeah, I think it’s a brutally stupid approach (but hey, Maloney ain’t the worst actively in the business for nothing!), but it’s still a step forward. Mushy middle likely still the outcome, but the Flames are the Flames at the end of the day. Can’t be mad at a rock for being a rock.

It just means we’re likely right back here next year in a similar spot having the exact same conversation (beginning to feel like the Flames organization has a level of loyalty from their fans that they just don’t deserve).

It could go the other way, but I think it’s completely reasonable to think that right now - Andersson is likely to be the only one who gets dealt. I just hope they absolutely nail the return, because it taking this long to trade Andersson is notably lowering the value of the Flames 1st round pick.

I'm leaning this way now too, as things in the standings have changed. I could see Andersson getting traded, and maybe another cheap vet coming in.

[Calgary4LIfe]

KK produces 0.402 PPG, and 0.157 GPG. contract: 4.82million through 29-30.
SH produces 0.530 PPG and 0.273 GPG, contract: 5.75 million through 29-30


Some people are of the opinion that Sharangovich is a cap dump at this point. Sure, Kotkaniemi plays the premium position, but even if he 'rebounds', he is not going to be a premier player. What he may do is impede better signings or get in the way down the middle from other young prospects getting more reps - players like Reschny, Stocksellus, even King, or whomever the Flames draft/acquire in the future. KK is not an upgrade on Frost, and will never be. I would want someone with the potential of one day improving on Frost, so to me, it makes no sense acquiring KK. 4 more years - that's not worth the gamble.


So if Coleman is worth a late 1st, then the deal gets worse by adding Kotkaniemi. I would want at least a 2nd round pick added on their side - so Coleman = 1st, KK + 2nd (or more). That's a bit over 50% left of Trent Fredericks' contract, after all. KK may be a better player than Frederick is, but you don't want to sign players like KK for 4.5 years either. If you think he is somehow going to blossom here, then I can understand why you would want to acquire him as part of the package. I am all for change of scenery trades - which means Calgary gives up a change of scenery guy for another team's chance of scenery guy. I would not, however, want a change of scenery guy as part of a trade without giving up a change of scenery guy in return, unless there was a sweetener.


Usually a change of scenery doesn't work. Sometimes it does, but it usually doesn't. In fact, I would think that for every one that works, there are at least an equal number of them that get worse too. Maybe it he was on an expiring deal, or had just one more season left after this one... but 4.5 years left? Not without a sweetener, and Coleman is worth a first in my books.

[SuperMatt18]

The schedule won't help either, between now and the Olympic break the schedule is relatively easy, so they likely still find themselves close to a playoff spot.

11 home games, 6 road games, only 1 B2B, Wild the only "elite" team of the bunch. Flames have the hardest SOS left but it's mostly all after the break.

Flyers
Predators
Kraken
@Canadiens
@Bruins (B2B)
@Penguins
@Blue Jackets
@Blackhawks
Islanders
Devils
Penguins
Capitals
Ducks
@Wild
Sharks
Leafs
Oilers

So they will play good in a period where you want them to be making the decision to sell Kadri and Coleman.

Then the problem is once it's too late, that's when the schedule is a murderer's row again

@Sharks
@Kings
@Ducks (B2B)
Stars
Senators

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Hurricanes
@Capitals
@Rangers (B2B)
@Devils
@Islanders
@Red Wings
Blues
Panthers
Lightning
Kings
Ducks
Canucks
@Avalanche
@Knights
@Ducks
@Stars
@Avalanche
@Kraken
Mammoth (B2B)
Avalanche
Kings

So yeah Andersson likely gets traded, but they will probably play well enough before the deadline to not feel like they should move Kadri and Coleman. And then they will probably fall out of the race post the deadline when the schedule becomes much tougher again.

Problem being i really adamantly feel that this deadline will be the maximum return opportunity for both Coleman and Kadri - it's a bit of a perfect storm in terms of the types of players they are, what teams are looking for, and the playoff race this year. You're not going to get more at the draft or next deadline for these 2.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

KK produces 0.402 PPG, and 0.157 GPG. contract: 4.82million through 29-30.
SH produces 0.530 PPG and 0.273 GPG, contract: 5.75 million through 29-30


Some people are of the opinion that Sharangovich is a cap dump at this point. Sure, Kotkaniemi plays the premium position, but even if he 'rebounds', he is not going to be a premier player. What he may do is impede better signings or get in the way down the middle from other young prospects getting more reps - players like Reschny, Stocksellus, even King, or whomever the Flames draft/acquire in the future. KK is not an upgrade on Frost, and will never be. I would want someone with the potential of one day improving on Frost, so to me, it makes no sense acquiring KK. 4 more years - that's not worth the gamble.


So if Coleman is worth a late 1st, then the deal gets worse by adding Kotkaniemi. I would want at least a 2nd round pick added on their side - so Coleman = 1st, KK + 2nd (or more). That's a bit over 50% left of Trent Fredericks' contract, after all. KK may be a better player than Frederick is, but you don't want to sign players like KK for 4.5 years either. If you think he is somehow going to blossom here, then I can understand why you would want to acquire him as part of the package. I am all for change of scenery trades - which means Calgary gives up a change of scenery guy for another team's chance of scenery guy. I would not, however, want a change of scenery guy as part of a trade without giving up a change of scenery guy in return, unless there was a sweetener.


Usually a change of scenery doesn't work. Sometimes it does, but it usually doesn't. In fact, I would think that for every one that works, there are at least an equal number of them that get worse too. Maybe it he was on an expiring deal, or had just one more season left after this one... but 4.5 years left? Not without a sweetener, and Coleman is worth a first in my books.

Can’t say I disagree with any of this.

…yet I still wouldn’t be surprised if they’d do it without a significant sweetener.

[FlamesAddiction]

I think Conroy needs to make those trades with primarily the return in mind and not because of the expected effect it will have on the standings. I could see a situation where those players are traded and it does nothing to "tank" the team, or even has the opposite effect. Just look at how better the team has played with Kuznetzov and Brz in the line-up.

I could see Andersson getting traded and a refocused Parekh come back into the line-up, plus one of Kadri or Coleman being trade replaced by a an eager Gridin (or young player we receive in return), and the team doesn't miss a beat. I wouldn't put money on it either way. So it has to be all about the return and not about trying to engineer the standings.

[HockeyKhan]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

KK produces 0.402 PPG, and 0.157 GPG. contract: 4.82million through 29-30.
SH produces 0.530 PPG and 0.273 GPG, contract: 5.75 million through 29-30


Some people are of the opinion that Sharangovich is a cap dump at this point. Sure, Kotkaniemi plays the premium position, but even if he 'rebounds', he is not going to be a premier player. What he may do is impede better signings or get in the way down the middle from other young prospects getting more reps - players like Reschny, Stocksellus, even King, or whomever the Flames draft/acquire in the future. KK is not an upgrade on Frost, and will never be. I would want someone with the potential of one day improving on Frost, so to me, it makes no sense acquiring KK. 4 more years - that's not worth the gamble.


So if Coleman is worth a late 1st, then the deal gets worse by adding Kotkaniemi. I would want at least a 2nd round pick added on their side - so Coleman = 1st, KK + 2nd (or more). That's a bit over 50% left of Trent Fredericks' contract, after all. KK may be a better player than Frederick is, but you don't want to sign players like KK for 4.5 years either. If you think he is somehow going to blossom here, then I can understand why you would want to acquire him as part of the package. I am all for change of scenery trades - which means Calgary gives up a change of scenery guy for another team's chance of scenery guy. I would not, however, want a change of scenery guy as part of a trade without giving up a change of scenery guy in return, unless there was a sweetener.


Usually a change of scenery doesn't work. Sometimes it does, but it usually doesn't. In fact, I would think that for every one that works, there are at least an equal number of them that get worse too. Maybe it he was on an expiring deal, or had just one more season left after this one... but 4.5 years left? Not without a sweetener, and Coleman is worth a first in my books.

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Kidder]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

So yeah Andersson likely gets traded, but they will probably play well enough before the deadline to not feel like they should move Kadri and Coleman. And then they will probably fall out of the race post the deadline when the schedule becomes much harder.

You have absolutely nailed it with your breakdown.

The way they’re playing and the upcoming schedule, it almost seems inevitable now they’ll climb into a playoff spot in the near future.

But selling Andersson and the finishing schedule will knock them back out by the end of the season. We are destined for another year of missing playoffs and mushy middle and it’s so frustrating to see it unfold.

It is written. If Conroy somehow reads the leaves and makes the moves to sell the three veterans early he will be the hero/villain this franchise desperately needs.

[TOfan]

I’m less convinced Coleman would be what Carolina would be pursuing. Their long held flaw has been the lack of a true superstar/elite talent (sound familiar?)

Expending assets on Coleman, as useful of a player as he is, seems to be at odds with what they’re likely looking for. If it’s Coleman for KK, sure all day long but I’d be hanging on to that first round pick of theirs in the event there’s a more substantial piece out there, even if that doesn’t present itself till the offseason. Also not sure the Flames would do that trade either. They likely need something more coming back in the way of a pick. KK and a ‘27 2nd round pick? Maybe. Hope the Flames could do better though.

I don’t think Carolina’s going to be a good trading partner for tre Flames on any of the big three. Kadri probably won’t go and IMO, neither Andersson or Coleman addresses what has been their fatal flaw. If the Canes can get any of them cheap, sure. Does that work for the Flames, absolutely not.

Would love to see a trade but I don’t see the fit here.

[Monahammer]

So, I go back to thinking about the delta in value between pick 1-3 (last place finish) vs pick 10-12 + some esoteric additional value from holding on to Andersson for 4 extra months.

I cant see how the value we get out of andersson in the next 2 months that we wouldntt have got trading him in the offseason is the 1st+ worth of extra value more that separates those picks.

So, it was probably the wrong choice.

And yes I believe losing our 1d would have us in last place still. But this thought exercise applies to Kadri too.

[Flames67]

Our informants have gone quiet…

[Rhett44]

No one is getting traded while we are this close to a playoff spot. They will probably wait until the deadline to trade Andersson, in order to maximize the amount of games he helps us in.

Unfortunately, they are not trading the vets and expectations need to be adjusted. Kadri and Coleman are going no where.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Flames67

Our informants have gone quiet…

It’s because we are all full of ####.

[Ped]

Our informants have gone quiet…

Hard to believe that people in the know may want to take some vacation time around the holidays with their families, eh?

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

No one is getting traded while we are this close to a playoff spot. They will probably wait until the deadline to trade Andersson, in order to maximize the amount of games he helps us in.

Unfortunately, they are not trading the vets and expectations need to be adjusted. Kadri and Coleman are going no where.

It is frustrating with all the moves the Preds, Hawks, Blues and Jets have made to see Conroy just sitting around doing nothing. But what can we do as fans?

[Flamescuprun2018]

Originally Posted by Sec214

It’s because we are all full of ####.

Is Conroy waiting for his price on all three of our top vets? I have not heard from our insiders that either Coleman and/or Kadri are even available on the market for a price. That's what concerns me.

Many of us are done with mediocrity and have zero interest in a rebiggle. I can live with this winning streak if it has created FOMO for Coleman, Kadri and Andersson and gets us a better return that we actually capitalize on.

Parekh and Wolf need a 1st line within 2-3 years max as Wolf reaches his prime. So far all I see as top 6 quality in the system are Coronato and maybe Gridin/Reschny and none clearly project to top 3 yet. Ticket prices are about to sky rocket in the new arena...

Maximize your assets at peak value before they decline and signal to us that Flames are serious about winning long term and are less focused on near term ticket sales and WC finish.

If the Flames keep winning after moving a minimum of 2 of these vets for futures, so be it, I will embrace it. I hate cheering so much for a tank anyways.