[Trade] Kings trade Danault to Habs for 2026 2nd

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I don’t really see it as a negative. Danault has been bad and got a 2nd

It's a negative in the sense that Kadri already has a NTC that limits the teams he can be traded to, and this is a team that he was willing to be traded to and had a need for a center.

A potential trade market for a player getting smaller never seems to be a good thing, the more teams interested the more likely to be a bidding war where somebody overpays.

[Jiggy]

I don't think this trade impacts a Kadri trade to Montreal as some others do. Danault is a 3/4 C the way he has been playing. Kadri would be their 1A/B with Suzuki.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It's a negative in the sense that Kadri already has a NTC that limits the teams he can be traded to, and this is a team that he was willing to be traded to and had a need for a center.

A potential trade market for a player getting smaller never seems to be a good thing, the more teams interested the more likely to be a bidding war where somebody overpays.

Eh, all it takes is two to three interested teams and he can still be traded to the majority of the league. Montreal might not have wanted to commit to Kadri’s contract. Hard to say it was a big miss on the Flames end.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

I don't think this trade impacts a Kadri trade to Montreal as some others do. Danault is a 3/4 C the way he has been playing. Kadri would be their 1A/B with Suzuki.

Perhaps, but I think the sequencing is off then. Why would the Habs be trading assets that could have been used as part of a Kadri deal? As well, bringing on two C’s mid season seems a bit unusual.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Perhaps, but I think the sequencing is off then. Why would the Habs be trading assets that could have been used as part of a Kadri deal? As well, bringing on two C’s mid season seems a bit unusual.

They probably are out of the Kadri mix now.

Danault plays well against elite competition, makes less and only has 1 year after this year on his contract. He is 32 and a prime guy that if he plats well he signs again and probably for less money.

This is why we weren't getting Hage for Kadri. LA is in the playoffs and they made this deal. New playoff cap rules should create more trades where teams trade away and then add

LA is more likely to load up for Kadri as Kopitar can play the checking role and Kadri can be their #1 center. Kopitar retires and they have money to blow as Kadri and Byfield are paid 2nd/3rd line money.

[Roko]

Gotta expect more of the same garbage from PD. If that continues it changes nothing. He has been an AHL player this season in LA

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Roko

Gotta expect more of the same garbage from PD. If that continues it changes nothing. He has been an AHL player this season in LA

Montreal does not need Danult to score, but he takes the pressure of Susuki defensively.

Turcotte has been very good in his own zone this year. Plays well against good competition. LA needs more scoring. They have the centers that play well in their own zone,

Different needs for each team

[Roko]

I mean 5.5M for someone with 5 assists in 30 games. Habs are banking on a low cost bounce back. He has been awful.

[Saqe]

How does Danault help the Habs... weird trade.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

They probably are out of the Kadri mix now.

Danault plays well against elite competition, makes less and only has 1 year after this year on his contract. He is 32 and a prime guy that if he plats well he signs again and probably for less money.

This is why we weren't getting Hage for Kadri. LA is in the playoffs and they made this deal. New playoff cap rules should create more trades where teams trade away and then add

LA is more likely to load up for Kadri as Kopitar can play the checking role and Kadri can be their #1 center. Kopitar retires and they have money to blow as Kadri and Byfield are paid 2nd/3rd line money.

Maybe.

That would be interesting and I agree that I don’t think LA wants to take a step backwards.

Could come down to how Kadri feels about LA. They’re kind of a mid-upper mushy middle team. That said, if Kadri was in their lineup over the last two years could they have knocked off the Oilers? Maybe.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Maybe.

That would be interesting and I agree that I don’t think LA wants to take a step backwards.

Could come down to how Kadri feels about LA. They’re kind of a mid-upper mushy middle team. That said, if Kadri was in their lineup over the last two years could they have knocked off the Oilers? Maybe.

It also really comes down to if they are on his NTC. He only has 13 teams he can nix.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Roko

I mean 5.5M for someone with 5 assists in 30 games. Habs are banking on a low cost bounce back. He has been awful.

He's also been on the ice for 0 goals against vs elite compeitition this year and does it taking the defensive face off against the other teams best players a large % of the time.

The habs can score, this take pressure of Suzuki to check and take D zone face offs.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

They probably are out of the Kadri mix now.

Danault plays well against elite competition, makes less and only has 1 year after this year on his contract. He is 32 and a prime guy that if he plats well he signs again and probably for less money.

This is why we weren't getting Hage for Kadri. LA is in the playoffs and they made this deal. New playoff cap rules should create more trades where teams trade away and then add

LA is more likely to load up for Kadri as Kopitar can play the checking role and Kadri can be their #1 center. Kopitar retires and they have money to blow as Kadri and Byfield are paid 2nd/3rd line money.

The Habs are ####ed if they think Daneault can play any higher in the lineup than the 3rd or 4th line. Presumably they were not interested in Kadri coming in to be a 4th line center for them.

One player has seasons of 47, 43 and on pace for 14 points this year and has 25 goals over his past 188 games

The other player has seasons of 75, 67 and is on pace for 73 points this year and has 72 goals in his last 199 games.

Those two players are not remotely similar.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Perhaps, but I think the sequencing is off then. Why would the Habs be trading assets that could have been used as part of a Kadri deal? As well, bringing on two C’s mid season seems a bit unusual.

Lots of teams making a push make two or three moves. And I doubt the Columbus 2nd is going to strain them if they want to do a deal for Kadri.

Danault is a specialist at this point. He might only play 4C and PK. He’s hit a major wall. Hell, if he plays badly they might decide they need Kadri even more.

[flambers]

This is a really good trade for the Habs cost is relatively low.

This will remove Habs as a team looking to acquire Kadri in my opinion

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The Habs are ####ed if they think Daneault can play any higher in the lineup than the 3rd or 4th line. Presumably they were not interested in Kadri coming in to be a 4th line center for them.

One player has seasons of 47, 43 and on pace for 14 points this year and has 25 goals over his past 188 games

The other player has seasons of 75, 67 and is on pace for 73 points this year and has 72 goals in his last 199 games.

Those two players are not remotely similar.

Yeah and they didn’t pay the price of a top 6 center

It’s just a cheap move and pray something works

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by flambers

This is a really good trade for the Habs cost is relatively low.

This will remove Habs as a team looking to acquire Kadri in my opinion

It's not a good trade at all. Danault seems cooked, he's a $5M cap hit and he will be a 4C. It's a waste of a 2nd that seems like it will be a high one.

Their 2C is at 16 points, playing between Slafovsky and Demidov. That's where they needed help, with Newhook out long term. Kadri would be perfect in that role.

Their problem is that Danualt has eaten their cap space.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It's not a good trade at all. Danault seems cooked, he's a $5M cap hit and he will be a 4C. It's a waste of a 2nd that seems like it will be a high one.

Their 2C is at 16 points, playing between Slafovsky and Demidov. That's where they needed help, with Newhook out long term. Kadri would be perfect in that role.

Their problem is that Danualt has eaten their cap space.

Just give it a couple month I bet it outs for the Habs

Agreed on the cap space they are out of it

[Sylvanfan]

Danault has always been a lot more of a Backlund type than Kadri. The "third line" center forced to play as more of a 2 and take the tough matchups. The Kings as a team are not scoring much this year and it seems like it's impacted Danault quite a bit. His goal scoring has been trending down for a couple of years here, and with everyone else not scoring around him, the assist totals are way down.

Perhaps a change of scenery will shock him and get him back in line with previous production since many of the other underlying numbers for him still look like they're okay.

I'd have to think a Kings team struggling to score, knowing that their top center won't be there next year would look at Kadri as a guy who they need to help fill what is going to be a massive void. They won't replace Kopitar in a one for one type swap. They're going to need to do it through taking a hit at the one C, and improving their 2nd and 3rd line centers, and other pieces in the top 9.

[D as in David]

On a scale from one to ten, how good of a rebuilding move is this for LA?

/s