Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[MBates]

Here are some facts related to the sport of hockey.

For the 2024-25 season Hockey Canada had over 603,000 registered players and a record was set at more than 115,000 of those players were registered to play women / girls hockey (these numbers do not count any of the kids playing in any league outside of the Hockey Canada umbrella).

https://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/ne...rows-2025-corp

Alberta had 11,471 registered to play women / girls hockey - representing 19% of our more than 60,000 players (second for female hockey registrations only to Ontario).

https://www.hockeyalberta.ca/news/03...%20U15%20level

Prior to resigning from the Board of Hockey Alberta due to the nature of the legal obligations imposed on me by the Alberta government's ban (which I described in a previous post in another thread):

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...53#post9489153

I specifically asked for and was advised there was no available example of a single incident / problem / complaint in relation to a transgender athlete who was born male playing in female hockey in Alberta. Not one.

The Hockey Canada official policy is that if a kid shows up to register in any development or recreational level and says they want to play female hockey they are allowed to (up until when competition reaches the point where IIHF rules apply).

For high-performance international competition, IIHF rules govern but in general Hockey Canada supports inclusion unless there is a justified medical or safety issue to be addressed.

https://cdn.hockeycanada.ca/hockey-c...y-policy-e.pdf

Prior to the ban Alberta was employing the Hockey Canada policy without incident.

At least in relation to hockey, this was a non-existent problem that was invented and 'fixed' with the impunity of a no-debate ramming through of a substantively useless law with a pre-emptive use of the notwithstanding clause to delete protected human rights of Albertans (which are not just in the Fed's Charter but in Alberta's own Bill of Rights and Human Rights Act).

Connecting back to the Skate Canada announcement I note my comments from my earlier post:

The final straw for me came when the government announced it would exempt out-of-province athletes from the application of the Fairness and Safety in Sport Regulation. It seems this was likely necessary (at least in hockey where the national and international governing bodies have inclusive evidence based policies that are incompatible with Alberta's ban) for the government to be sure they could still make truckloads of money from, and have the prestige of hosting, national championships and international events...of which several are already in the queue.

https://globalnews.ca/news/11286379/...ince-athletes/

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/loc...nto-2027-schow

So, in other words, biologically born male kids will still be allowed to play female-only hockey in Alberta (and hurt everyone on the ice and steal all the gold medals with impunity) so long as they don't live here.

In my opinion, the level of dishonesty and brazen partisan ideology at play in relation to this issue is off the charts. And it is disappointing that it would appear the profit motive of Hockey Canada has dictated their response because instead of refusing to hold national and international competitions in Alberta it is my understanding they have exempted Alberta from complying with their governing policy.

I am fully prepared to accept that in some sports and at higher levels of competition in particular, this is an issue that may need to be addressed because there may be genuine evidence-based reasonable safety or fairness of competition issues. But the Alberta ban bears no resemblance to anything genuine evidence based or reasonable.

[Bigtime]

"No big deal, but the Alberta government just increased the fee to submit a citizen initiated petition from $500 to $25, 000. After the separatism initiative was approved, but before Corb Lund's coal mining petition gets re-approved. No political shenanigans going on here."

https://bsky.app/profile/duanebratt..../3ma7xm7npc22a

[Looch City]

Oh my ####ing god. Someone forcibly remove her.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

"No big deal, but the Alberta government just increased the fee to submit a citizen initiated petition from $500 to $25, 000. After the separatism initiative was approved, but before Corb Lund's coal mining petition gets re-approved. No political shenanigans going on here."

https://bsky.app/profile/duanebratt..../3ma7xm7npc22a

You've gotta be s###ing me. Thats their solution? Just price people out?

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

"No big deal, but the Alberta government just increased the fee to submit a citizen initiated petition from $500 to $25, 000. After the separatism initiative was approved, but before Corb Lund's coal mining petition gets re-approved. No political shenanigans going on here."

https://bsky.app/profile/duanebratt..../3ma7xm7npc22a

This s*** is absolutely infuriating, and I don’t even live in Alberta.

[mogg]

Jason Markusoff reports that Corb Lund can reapply at the previous rate during the 30 day transition period, but it’s still sketchy as all hell.

https://bsky.app/profile/markusoff.b.../3ma7zkbqzsc2p

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Locke

You've gotta be s###ing me. Thats their solution? Just price people out?

We want democracy! We want the people to have a voice!

But only for the rich people!!!

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Locke

You've gotta be s###ing me. Thats their solution? Just price people out?

They’re wonderful confident people, clearly.

[The Fonz]

Re: Fuzz; undercoverbrother

Messaged this to the mod account on your behalf:

“Should biological males be allowed to compete in girls/womens sporting events?

Yes
No”

Hopefully they make a poll.

[Red Potato Standing By]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Re: Fuzz; undercoverbrother

Messaged this to the mod account on your behalf:

“Should biological males be allowed to compete in girls/womens sporting events?

Yes
No”

Hopefully they make a poll.

Why not have the question be , Should trans girls be allowed to compete in girls sporting events? That would be more of a honest question.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Red Potato Standing By

Why not have the question be , Should trans girls be allowed to compete in girls sporting events? That would be more of a honest question.

Looks like you answered your own question in the end.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Do threats lead to more or less accurate polling?

Lack the courage of your convictions?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Re: Fuzz; undercoverbrother

Messaged this to the mod account on your behalf:

“Should biological males be allowed to compete in girls/womens sporting events?

Yes
No”

Hopefully they make a poll.

disingenuous kunt

[Looch City]

I have a better one:

"Should perverts be allowed to check girls' genitals before they compete in a sport?"

Yes / no?

[PepsiFree]

Most people who have an unhealthy obsession with kids’ genitals end up on a registry with their full real name. I’m sure Fonz can be brave and handle having his username attached to a selection on a poll if he’s sure his obsession isn’t of the illegal variety.

[Burninator]

Smith knows she couldn't just recall the recall law (at least not right now) so putting up as many barriers as possible.

[Fuzz]

Hey, Fonz, why do you hate children? Is it a fear thing?

[Fuzz]

The Alberta government announced a 10-year strategy to end gender-based violence in May, but it cannot be eradicated when the governing United Conservative Party’s policies are based on harmful myths.

Teaching about gender inequality and diversity is an important aspect of primary prevention, but Alberta’s curriculum scores the lowest in Canada on 2SLGBTQIA+ inclusion.

In Alberta, students between kindergarten and Grade 6 have only one opportunity to learn about 2SLGBTQIA+ identities. During Grade 3 physical education and wellness classes, students learn that families can have two mothers or two fathers — but under Alberta legislation, these lessons aren’t universally taught: families must opt their children in.

Alberta has become the only province that requires parent permission for lessons on puberty, hygiene and consent. Experts worry that this means fewer students will have access to sex ed.

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/12/1...en-Girls-Risk/


Nothing says an advanced society like pro-ignorance policies. They want your children to have less knowledge and education than we do. In short, you have to be a ####ing moron to support this party, because only morons would think this makes sense.

[BeltlineFan]

Originally Posted by direwolf

This s*** is absolutely infuriating, and I don’t even live in Alberta.

Clearly someone needs to start a petition to keep the price at $500 before the new rules come into effect. That seems like something us poors from all parties could get behind.

[Fuzz]

How can it be a citizen initiative if it cost 25k? This just ensures an organization is required for any of these to go through. So now the name is bull#### too.