2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I bet you thought last year that Kadri and Coleman's value wouldn't be higher than it was then. But it is now. So is Andersson's for that matter.

Who said their value is higher this year? Last year at the deadline was a sellers market. And they have not been traded, so no idea where you are getting that they have higher value now.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Who said their value is higher this year? Last year at the deadline was a sellers market. And they have not been traded, so no idea where you are getting that they gave higher value now.

I say their value is higher this year - Kadri is playing as well as ever and it's a hot centre market. Coleman is much improved over last year.

And they weren't traded last year, so how can you assess their value then?

[dino7c]

cap going up has increased both players value

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I say their value is higher this year - Kadri is playing as well as ever and it's a hot centre market. Coleman is much improved over last year.

And they weren't traded last year, so how can you assess their value then?

Brandon Carlo was traded for a 1st, 4th, and prospect. Andersson is much better so his value would have been more at the deadline than this.

Brock Nelson was traded for a 1st, a prospect with the same value as a late 1st, a 3rd, and a depth dman. I believe Royle mentioned we were offered a bit more than this but did not want to trade Kadri because we wanted to make playoffs.

So we will see if either gets more than these values. Until then, it is all speculation.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Brandon Carlo was traded for a 1st, 4th, and prospect. Andersson is much better so his value would have been more at the deadline than this.

Brock Nelson was traded for a 1st, a prospect with the same value as a late 1st, a 3rd, and a depth dman. I believe Royle mentioned we were offered a bit more than this but did not want to trade Kadri because we wanted to make playoffs.

So we will see if either gets more than these values. Until then, it is all speculation.

When were those trades made again? December? January?

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Andersson is much better so his value would have been more at the deadline than this.

He's having a better season this year than last year. All he needs is 9 points to match his total in 81 games and he hasn't even played half the amount of games. I remember people losng their #### over him being -38 last season and he's +3 on a team that's 31st.

And I do remember hearing the teams who were inquiring about Andersson were not even making a tempting initial offer to make Conroy consider moving him.

Even if it's just as a rental the Flames can get more than they would have last year.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Inferno

He's having a better season this year than last year. All he needs is 9 points to match his total in 81 games and he hasn't even played half the amount of games. I remember people losng their #### over him being -38 last season and he's +3 on a team that's 31st.

And I do remember hearing the teams who were inquiring about Andersson were not even making a tempting initial offer to make Conroy consider moving him.

Even if it's just as a rental the Flames can get more than they would have last year.

Teams also would have had him for 2 playoffs instead of 1 if he does not extend with them.

We will see what we can get, we can only really speculate right now.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Teams also would have had him for 2 playoffs instead of 1 if he does not extend with them.

We will see what we can get, we can only really speculate right now.

But like I said, teams apparently weren't even trying to tempt Conroy into trading him. Probably becauase he wasn't having a good season and they were trying to get him at a discount.

If he can continue to have a good season the Flames could get close if not better than what everyone thought they should have been able to get last year regardless if he ends up being just a rental.

Teams are willing to pay more for a rental if they feel he can help them win in the playoffs.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Inferno

But like I said, teams apparently weren't even trying to tempt Conroy into trading him. Probably becauase he wasn't having a good season and they were trying to get him at a discount.

If he can continue to have a good season the Flames could get close if not better than what everyone thought they should have been able to get last year regardless if he ends up being just a rental.

Teams are willing to pay more for a rental if they feel he can help them win in the playoffs.

Let's hope so! I hope that they all get a great return.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Teams also would have had him for 2 playoffs instead of 1 if he does not extend with them.

We will see what we can get, we can only really speculate right now.

And just like what Vancouver did with Hughes, teams wouldn’t have been able to even talk about extension because it wasn’t possible yet.

Same with trade protection, would have had many more teams and many more bidders.

I just hope the central arms race makes em all go a little crazy.

Kadri to Colorado
Coleman to Dallas
Andersson to Carolina, and then to Dallas ala Rantanen style

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Endless debate aside but maybe taking a step back- it is pretty unclear what the Flames broad strategy is. They don’t need to telegraph their every move obviously but they should be at least honest with people what their general intentions are because to me it is all very confusing (when it shouldn’t be).

It is not an endless debate though, the Flames have been rebuilding since June 2023. They have made 7 rebuilding type trades since that time, the most in the league over that period of time. Suspect by March 2026 they will still have made the most rebuilding type trades since June 2023.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Groot

I think they're trading out any aging UFA.
I think they're promoting prospects when ready.
I think they're getting younger as a team.
I think they're stockpiling draft picks.
I think they're avoiding any significant UFA signings.
I think they're spending to the cap floor instead of ceiling
I think they're being patient with an Andersson trade to maximize the return.
I think they're being even more patient with a Kadri and Coleman trade since they are not UFA's.

Thats what I think based on what the team has actually done. There's been much more than 3 months debate, when did Rhett44 make his account again? (Joking)

Facts!!!!!
Stop using facts to counter a good long term tantrum!!!

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

As a fan, I see what Vancouver did as bold…and I’m excited to see Conroy do something bold, as it’s been very quiet on his front for sometime now.

Bold? Minny made an offer Vancouver could simply not refuse. Hughes was a player who had to be moved, sooner than later.

It was a no brainer.

It was a trade for young, current NHL players that allows Vancouver to keep trying to win.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Brandon Carlo was traded for a 1st, 4th, and prospect. Andersson is much better so his value would have been more at the deadline than this.

Brock Nelson was traded for a 1st, a prospect with the same value as a late 1st, a 3rd, and a depth dman. I believe Royle mentioned we were offered a bit more than this but did not want to trade Kadri because we wanted to make playoffs.

So we will see if either gets more than these values. Until then, it is all speculation.

Well they never got the 3rd because the conditions were not met so it was a late first this year and a former late 1st.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

They did try to improve the team last year by adding Frost and Farabee. Since the Markstrom trade, they have done nothing to suggest this is a rebuild.

The mere fact that they did not in any significant way trade any of the future picks for help suggests that they are rebuilding. A team that was not rebuilding would have used the cap space available and they would have traded some other bounty of picks for help now. The Flames have not done any of those things.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The mere fact that they did not in any significant way trade any of the future picks for help suggests that they are rebuilding. A team that was not rebuilding would have used the cap space available and they would have traded some other bounty of picks for help now. The Flames have not done any of those things.

Casting this as a binary thing stopped being helpful about 600 posts ago. Teams have a range of strategic stances:

1) All the chips in to win it now
2) Willing to trade long-term assets to boost current roster
3) Stand pat and let the roster improve organically
4) Trade pending UFAs rather than let them walk
5) Willing to trade veterans who want don’t to play here for picks and prospects
6) Actively seeking to move even veterans who want to play here for picks and prospects
7) Tanking to finish bottom 5

Fans who are frustrated that the Flames don’t seem to be doing 7 aren’t claiming that they’re doing 1 and 2.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

It is not an endless debate though, the Flames have been rebuilding since June 2023. They have made 7 rebuilding type trades since that time, the most in the league over that period of time. Suspect by March 2026 they will still have made the most rebuilding type trades since June 2023.

June 2023 is false. They entered that season with intentions of competing and re-signing many of their players. The Toffoli trade is not a rebuilding trade. They needed to be cap compliant so traded a 34 goal 73pt forward for a third rounder and a 25 year old player. How is that a rebuilding trade? If they prioritized the rebuild they wouldn’t have settled on a 3rd round pick and would have prioritized futures over a player that would help immediately.

There was absolutely a hope the flames though getting rid of Sutter would have turned things around but once they got off to a terrible start they pivoted and stopped trying to sign Hanifin and Steinberg says they knew in November they were going to trade Lindholm.

November when they traded Zadorov was when the rebuild truly kicked off in my opinion.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Steinberg has said the Flames won't be open to moving Coleman and Kadri unless those players ask to be moved pretty consistently all season.

Now Steinberg's verbiage softened a little bit post Dec 1, but I still do think the team would rather not move those two players.

And I highly doubt they are aggressively shopping them. My real gut feel here is even if they are willing to move them, that they likely are maybe taking the players wishes into consideration a little too much. The NTC's limit them, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are being even more limited based on trying to do right by the player.

Yeah Steinberg takes pivoted from the "approached by the player" to "offer that makes it hard to turn down" in the last ten days.

I think that's a positive.

Someone also mentioned the players and the team have had conversations so I don't think "waiting for the player" is valid any more.

Andersson has shot a lot of holes in Eastern big market media reports lately, which I think is telling too.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

If we trade all 3, I will be positive about the Flames for the rest of the year!

It would finally indicate that the ownership / upper management isn't actually incompetent.

My traffic is going to take a huge hit.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I say their value is higher this year - Kadri is playing as well as ever and it's a hot centre market. Coleman is much improved over last year.

And they weren't traded last year, so how can you assess their value then?

Does it really matter? Even if we just assume that's true, the difference in return is probably negligible if anything. GMs know what Kadri and Coleman are at this point. The true value you get in trade is guaranteeing a top 3 pick. A potential star added into the system is vastly more valuable than adding an extra late pick or a slightly higher pick. Especially over the next few seasons. Hanging onto guys to squeeze out a little extra value is stupid.