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Old 12-15-2025, 06:56 PM   #15941
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For me, I’m more so inclined to trade both Kadri and Coleman because they’re hot commodities right now and would fetch us a favourable return. I’m not looking to ship guys out just to say we’re “rebuilding” but certainly the assets we acquire would help both long term and give us more bullets in the draft, while likely subtracting some wins from the remaining games, which is what we should be doing.

When your players are seen as “top available” assets and you are rumoured to prefer holding onto them to see what happens, rather than ask them to be open to a trade it gives fans PTSD when we’re going into 2 drafts here with franchise potential players, in a season where we’re already not likely to make it and could see a top 3 pick.

No reason to panic (yet) but I know some fans would just like to hear CGY not say anything at all, or talk more about looking to get better long term rather than all the “”we can save this” garbage we’ve heard over and over.
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Where have we heard them say anything like “we can save this”?
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Old 12-15-2025, 07:14 PM   #15943
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Where have we heard them say anything like “we can save this”?
It’s essentially implied in the Friedman quote, they figure they can’t rebuild because “Wolf being Wolf” and they’re better off not doing anything and seeing what happens, and just “hope” they get a good pick.

Those are not supportive comments for trading assets in my opinion.
Those are comments similar to the baffling ones we heard from Maloney where he rambled on about being close and having a good team who are on the cusp of being in the fight.
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It’s essentially implied in the Friedman quote, they figure they can’t rebuild because “Wolf being Wolf” and they’re better off not doing anything and seeing what happens, and just “hope” they get a good pick.

Those are not supportive comments for trading assets in my opinion.
Those are comments similar to the baffling ones we heard from Maloney where he rambled on about being close and having a good team who are on the cusp of being in the fight.
Those comments are supportive of casual fans buying tickets.

Using my decoder, what they are really saying is, “please buy tickets even though we’re really bad, we like money.”
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Old 12-15-2025, 07:21 PM   #15945
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It’s essentially implied in the Friedman quote, they figure they can’t rebuild because “Wolf being Wolf” and they’re better off not doing anything and seeing what happens, and just “hope” they get a good pick.

Those are not supportive comments for trading assets in my opinion.
Those are comments similar to the baffling ones we heard from Maloney where he rambled on about being close and having a good team who are on the cusp of being in the fight.
I guess it's open to interpretation. But he didn't say they can't re-build, he said they won't "tear it down". Different things in my view.

Also he didn't say anything about trying to save the season, which would imply making short-term moves.

In fact he said they won't make short-term fixes and WILL try to get the highest pick they can.

And of course all of it is a second hand tweet from a radio hit. Would be nice if someone actually heard and it could report on the full conversation.
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I guess it's open to interpretation. But he didn't say they can't re-build, he said they won't "tear it down". Different things in my view.

Also he didn't say anything about trying to save the season, which would imply making short-term moves.

In fact he said they won't make short-term fixes and WILL try to get the highest pick they can.

And of course all of it is a second hand tweet from a radio hit. Would be nice if someone actually heard and it could report on the full conversation.
For sure, it’s a very bland tweet and different from what I’ve heard which is why it caught me off guard. Typically I’d ignore it coming from most of the non-CGY based media, but Friedman is very connected and doesn’t generally blurb stuff out just for hits anymore.
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For me, I’m more so inclined to trade both Kadri and Coleman because they’re hot commodities right now and would fetch us a favourable return. I’m not looking to ship guys out just to say we’re “rebuilding” but certainly the assets we acquire would help both long term and give us more bullets in the draft, while likely subtracting some wins from the remaining games, which is what we should be doing.

When your players are seen as “top available” assets and you are rumoured to prefer holding onto them to see what happens, rather than ask them to be open to a trade it gives fans PTSD when we’re going into 2 drafts here with franchise potential players, in a season where we’re already not likely to make it and could see a top 3 pick.

No reason to panic (yet) but I know some fans would just like to hear CGY not say anything at all, or talk more about looking to get better long term rather than all the “”we can save this” garbage we’ve heard over and over.
I just hope that if an offer surfaces that would help further their team in 3-5 years that they won't lean towards declining because of some Maloneyspiel upstairs.

Don't trade any one just to trade/asset manage. But be fully open to competitive offers and be prepared to bite if the right deal comes.

Thankfully nothing CC has done tells me he wouldn't take a rational and balanced approach in terms of future vs present. And he seems pretty aware of what the team's chances are as it stands.
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Old 12-15-2025, 07:26 PM   #15948
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Here's the actual interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0oabRKCiYs

He was also talking about it not being a full tear down in Vancouver which is when he transitions to Calgary.

So the irony of it is that despite how everyone has been talking about Vancouver being more proactive with their re-build Friedman then goes on to say that he thinks the Canucks are going to do the same thing as Calgary. Not a full tear down.

It was more a conversation about Vancouver than Calgary. He was drawing a comparison.
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For sure, it’s a very bland tweet and different from what I’ve heard which is why it caught me off guard. Typically I’d ignore it coming from most of the non-CGY based media, but Friedman is very connected and doesn’t generally blurb stuff out just for hits anymore.
well now that I've seen the video, it really wasn't him reporting anything new on Calgary at all.

The entire context was around what Vancouver is doing, why they didn't use the word re-build when Hughes was still there, and how they are perhaps going to take a similar approach.

I think the key thing is both organizations want to re-build without fully tearing it down. But I think we know that.

It had nothing specifically to do with players like Kadri, Coleman and Rasmus.
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Here's the actual interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0oabRKCiYs

He was also talking about it not being a full tear down in Vancouver which is when he transitions to Calgary.

So the irony of it is that despite how everyone has been talking about Vancouver being more proactive with their re-build Friedman then goes on to say that he thinks the Canucks are going to do the same thing as Calgary. Not a full tear down.

It was more a conversation about Vancouver than Calgary. He was drawing a comparison.
He starts by saying he does not see everything and hear everything. He suspects that the Canucks will not be doing a full tear down. He said that Calgary is not going to tear it down, they cannot do it with "Wolf being Wolf", they are going to let this year play out, not do short term fixes and try to get the best pick they can. Vancouver is going to do the same thing, except for Kampf which is an acceptable short term fix.

He says he is going to start thinking about who the Canucks can trade, has not thought about it. He does not think the veterans will be running for the exits. He thinks the Canucks will see how the rest of the year goes and see how all the veterans feel. See where it takes them, Demko's health will be a very big part. Flames feel they cannot bottom out with Wolf being Wolf and Demko could have the same effect. Can't bottom out with a goalie being as good as Wolf.

Doubt anyone will actually listen to the interview because the tweet is much better clickbait but that is what he said. Probably accurate that Wolf is the problem if folks want to bottom out.
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Old 12-15-2025, 07:57 PM   #15951
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I have always said I think it’s highly improbable the Flames can trade all three at the deadline, which was why I’d hoped we’d see Rasmus moved in the summer to get all three done this year.

The Kadri deal would be very complex with all the money left on his deal and his limited NTC. Navigating a deal for him and Ras at the same deadline just seems far fetched as much as I’d like to see it.

My money would be on Ras and Coleman moving this year, Kadri in the offseason, unless Conroy gets his socks blown off and doesn’t have to approach ownership about eating money on Kadri’s contract.

The obvious unknown is Kadri’s willingness to stay after a deal or two are made to further deplete the team. He forces the Flames hand and that’s another route to seeing all three dealt this year.
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Old 12-15-2025, 08:27 PM   #15952
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I can understand folks being frustrated if Kadri doesn't go this year, as it seems higher risk that his value could drop next year if he doesn't keep up his production.

Andersson needs to go this season. I think we all agree there and it's highly unlikely he doesn't, except for the always looming risk of an injury.

Coleman is the one for me that can go this year or next, and I don't think it dramatically changes the value. He just reeks of the perfect deadline acquisition for a team. But in the meantime, he also has such a positive impact on other players. Young players or struggling guys....just plunk them next to Coleman and Backlund and it seems to do the trick.
What would be cool is if Conroy did something unexpected with a Kadri trade to net something premium in return. Eat some money, add an unexpected asset, involve a third team. Something that boosts the return to get the organization excited about the future trajectory.
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Coleman can basically block a trade so I’ll be content with Kadri and Andersson moving. The try and get the best pick possible would jive with that
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What would be cool is if Conroy did something unexpected with a Kadri trade to net something premium in return. Eat some money, add an unexpected asset, involve a third team. Something that boosts the return to get the organization excited about the future trajectory.

I like the trajectory but to my mind this next year is a key one.

Andersson is gone short of something game changing but its whst we do with Coleman that says everything. Kadri a tougher deal to make i think but from chatter clearly Coleman is more valued than i assumed.

Honzek is coming back. Gridin is point per game in the A. Huby isnt going anywhere and Farabee is proving himself to be a really solid middle six guy.

Considering the rest of the organization we really have zero reason to hold onto Coleman so if someone throws a first for him start the bloody car here i will help you pack.

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Old 12-15-2025, 08:40 PM   #15955
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Meh, I can understand keeping Kadri and Coleman another year until they see a bit more from the center options they have. Coleman will definitely be a prized rental next year.

I can understand Kadris situation with the Flames. One of the biggest things surrounding the Flames and the recent purge of pending UFAs that left was they wanted players that wanted to be here. Kadri wants to be here. That counts for a lot more than we as fans care to admit.

If your known for players wanting out unless you overpay them and you're actively trying to change that image, punting an older player who lets be honest, they still need at the position that they are currently weakest at , doesn't send the kind of positive vibes to other players they may want to sign down the road.

Love it or hate it, but to a fault the Flames are astoundingly loyal to players who want to be here. That loyalty has cost them many times (Iggy namely). They just hold onto what we call assets for too long and lose that value. But , on the human side, it's good business . One thing the Flames do the best. Is on the human side of things.
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I'm mad about a paraphrased interview someone gave that I didn't watch featuring a comparison between the Flames and another team, featuring sentiments we've heard before.
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I understand being good to your players but I want a Stanley Cup not a Nobel peace prize.
Hate to break this to you big guy but unless you lace ‘em yourself or go broker peace in the Middle East you’re not getting either.
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I'm mad about a paraphrased interview someone gave that I didn't watch featuring a comparison between the Flames and another team, featuring sentiments we've heard before.
Why listen to the interview when you can just get mad about what you think was said?
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Flames will finish in the bottom 2 this season - I really believe it will be a battle between them and St. Louis, though out of nowhere Seattle suddenly scares the beejeebus out of me.


How am I so sure?


1.) https://www.tankathon.com/nhl/remain...edule_strength They have the toughest schedule remaining.


2.) This team - if you open your eyes to the roster - needs to win by out-working the opposition. I bet when Andersson gets traded, that they nosedive. It will just kill the will of this team.


3.) They just went 6-3-1 in their last 10, and Nashville has been better (and about to pass the Flames in the standings tonight!). Flames sit 30th.


I have posted before that I believe the cost of moving up from 10th to 1st is potentially greater than the sum of the assets that the Flames will get from Andersson, Kadri and Coleman combined. Potentially at least. Calgary offered #6 + #22 + #28 for #1 under Feaster, and was rejected quickly. Really depends on the draft, depends on the tiers, yadda yadda - point is, that if the Flames were to be moving up into the 10th overall pick or worse range, that I would want Conroy to make a bad trade just to keep this team at the bottom.


That's obviously not needed. The position that the Flames are in allows Conroy to remain extremely patient. Flames are treading water right now. The strength of schedule is a killer. Nashville, Seattle and Vancouver all have it easier for the rest of the season. Trades will happen when Conroy gets a good offer.


Flames should be jumping up every prospect list after the draft with the combination of whatever haul they get from these trades, plus a high pick.


As for Friedman, there are so many ways to interpret what he is saying. In the end, the Flames don't need to strip it down bare (which to me, is tanking, which implies basically all the vets + younger players that maybe don't fit the long-term vision of this team, because they don't need to. They already are one of the worst teams in the NHL. In my opinion, this franchise has already been stripped down. There are only a few tasty morsels left, but Conroy can (and should) wait.
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^ I agree with the first 2 points.

I believe they're actually 8-3-1 in the last 12. That's .700 hockey, and 17 of their 30 points in the standings, they went from being 8 games under .500(5-13-3), to 3 games under .500(13-16-4).

There are several teams that I expect to keep falling, mainly SEA, CHI, CBJ, BUF, and SJS. Other teams are also going to sell veterans at the deadline.

With the way the Flames are playing, if you offered me even money right now, I would bet against them finishing in the bottom 3. I would bet for them on a bottom 6 finish, but I wouldn't be confident enough to bet my house on it.
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