12-15-2025, 04:19 PM
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#15901
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#1 Goaltender
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I don’t see why Dallas would want Dougie Hamilton. When I watch the Devils he looks bad and takes dumb penalties.
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12-15-2025, 04:28 PM
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#15902
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Franchise Player
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If CGY does nothing (and I’ve been told the opposite of what was just said by Friedman)
Then I don’t know how I can support this team with 3 different sets of season tickets.
It would be the most absolute train wreck of mis-management we’ve seen in decades.
We need 2/3 to be gone, anything less and we’ve blown our best window in years.
What has this team shown you that screams “quick fix” and “let’s let this play out, we’ve got the answers in this room”.
I’m not panic mode yet, but this narrative Friedman has spun a few times now scares me… wish I knew his source(s)
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12-15-2025, 04:33 PM
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#15903
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
If CGY does nothing (and I’ve been told the opposite of what was just said by Friedman)
Then I don’t know how I can support this team with 3 different sets of season tickets.
It would be the most absolute train wreck of mis-management we’ve seen in decades.
We need 2/3 to be gone, anything less and we’ve blown our best window in years.
What has this team shown you that screams “quick fix” and “let’s let this play out, we’ve got the answers in this room”.
I’m not panic mode yet, but this narrative Friedman has spun a few times now scares me… wish I knew his source(s)
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It just doesn't even make sense TBH.
If Kadri and Coleman were 27 years old with the term they have left on their deals then I could at least understand the argument.
But they are 35. There is no world where you shouldn't be aggressively shopping those guys while they have value, when you sit bottom 5 in the league.
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12-15-2025, 04:33 PM
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#15904
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Scoring Winger
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I mean Calgary, despite their decent run lately, has jumped all the way to 30th overall in points percentage. Cooley seems to be cooling off a bit. Nashville is 6-4 over the same span of 10 games. Calgary needs to run the table to get to 0.500 before Christmas (SJ, Sea, VGK), which is good for a tie for 24th overall today. I cannot see Calgary over reacting either way. If they hit another skid, this team could find themselves back in last place in no time.
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12-15-2025, 04:37 PM
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#15905
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
It just doesn't even make sense TBH.
If Kadri and Coleman were 27 years old with the term they have left on their deals then I could at least understand the argument.
But they are 35. There is no world where you shouldn't be aggressively shopping those guys while they have value, when you sit bottom 5 in the league.
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4 words for you: Murray Edwards / Don Maloney.
Dumb and dumber. That is the only explanation, and yes those remarks from Friedman are extremely concerning.
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12-15-2025, 04:37 PM
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#15906
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Flames completely overvalued their players. That's all I can come up with.
Just trade Andersson and I'll be happy.
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12-15-2025, 04:40 PM
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#15907
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Cmon guys this is a rumour that isn't positive for the Flames and as such it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Just wait until the trade deadline, there's no reason to discuss or get worked up about anything until all the facts are available.
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12-15-2025, 04:40 PM
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#15908
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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What I come up with is that Friedman is wrong and Royle is correct.
Friedman's accuracy has taken a dive over the last few years IMO.
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12-15-2025, 04:42 PM
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#15909
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Originally Posted by ResAlien
Cmon guys this is a rumour that isn't positive for the Flames and as such it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Just wait until the trade deadline, there's no reason to discuss or get worked up about anything until all the facts are available.
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Honestly, even when the Flames do move players I am going to be pissed and it will not convince me they will ever rebuild or trade players for picks and prospects. I am not going to be fooled by their actions, that is for sure.
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12-15-2025, 04:42 PM
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#15910
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
If CGY does nothing (and I’ve been told the opposite of what was just said by Friedman)
Then I don’t know how I can support this team with 3 different sets of season tickets.
It would be the most absolute train wreck of mis-management we’ve seen in decades.
We need 2/3 to be gone, anything less and we’ve blown our best window in years.
What has this team shown you that screams “quick fix” and “let’s let this play out, we’ve got the answers in this room”.
I’m not panic mode yet, but this narrative Friedman has spun a few times now scares me… wish I knew his source(s)
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The most concerning thing is it is not just Friedman stating this.
Dreger was on Barn Burner recently again and said the Flames are not shopping Kadri and Coleman. And the only way they would shop them is if they ask the Flames for a trade, or if we fall way out of the mix and someone blows us away with an offer.
But Dreger did not give me much optimism that there is any plan to trade vets.
Last edited by Rhett44; 12-15-2025 at 04:46 PM.
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12-15-2025, 04:43 PM
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#15911
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Some interesting names have hit the waiver wire, Jonathan Berggren who Detroit have been trying to deal for a couple. Of seasons now and Ilya Kolyachonok from Dallas, a Kuznetsov type big LD from Dallas. I'd take a stab at either. Mostly KolyaChonok though. Shore up that LD a little more.
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12-15-2025, 04:47 PM
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#15912
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
The most concerning thing is it is not just Friedman stating this.
Dreger was on Barn Burner recently again and said the Flames are not shopping Kadri and Coleman. And the only way they would shop them is if they ask the Flames for a trade, or if we falll way out of the mix and someone blows us away with an offer.
But Dreger did not give me much optimism that there is any plan to trade vets.
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Steinberg has said the Flames won't be open to moving Coleman and Kadri unless those players ask to be moved pretty consistently all season.
Now Steinberg's verbiage softened a little bit post Dec 1, but I still do think the team would rather not move those two players.
And I highly doubt they are aggressively shopping them. My real gut feel here is even if they are willing to move them, that they likely are maybe taking the players wishes into consideration a little too much. The NTC's limit them, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are being even more limited based on trying to do right by the player.
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12-15-2025, 04:50 PM
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#15913
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
The most concerning thing is it is not just Friedman stating this.
Dreger was on Barn Burner recently again and said the Flames are not shopping Kadri and Coleman. And the only way they would shop them is if they ask the Flames for a trade, or if we falll way out of the mix and someone blows us away with an offer.
But Dreger did not give me much optimism that there is any plan to trade vets.
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Meh, I can understand keeping Kadri and Coleman another year until they see a bit more from the center options they have. Coleman will definitely be a prized rental next year.
I can understand Kadris situation with the Flames. One of the biggest things surrounding the Flames and the recent purge of pending UFAs that left was they wanted players that wanted to be here. Kadri wants to be here. That counts for a lot more than we as fans care to admit.
If your known for players wanting out unless you overpay them and you're actively trying to change that image, punting an older player who lets be honest, they still need at the position that they are currently weakest at , doesn't send the kind of positive vibes to other players they may want to sign down the road.
Love it or hate it, but to a fault the Flames are astoundingly loyal to players who want to be here. That loyalty has cost them many times (Iggy namely). They just hold onto what we call assets for too long and lose that value. But , on the human side, it's good business . One thing the Flames do the best. Is on the human side of things.
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12-15-2025, 04:53 PM
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#15914
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Meh, I can understand keeping Kadri and Coleman another year until they see a bit more from the center options they have. Coleman will definitely be a prized rental next year.
I can understand Kadris situation with the Flames. One of the biggest things surrounding the Flames and the recent purge of pending UFAs that left was they wanted players that wanted to be here. Kadri wants to be here. That counts for a lot more than we as fans care to admit.
If your known for players wanting out unless you overpay them and you're actively trying to change that image, punting an older player who lets be honest, they still need at the position that they are currently weakest at , doesn't send the kind of positive vibes to other players they may want to sign down the road.
Love it or hate it, but to a fault the Flames are astoundingly loyal to players who want to be here. That loyalty has cost them many times (Iggy namely). They just hold onto what we call assets for too long and lose that value. But , on the human side, it's good business . One thing the Flames do the best. Is on the human side of things.
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I honestly think this is irrelevant if you build a winner.
Edmonton was terrible, once 97 and 29 were winning then guys would be more willing to sign there.
Florida was seen as the laughing stock of the NHL, put together a competitive team and that all changes.
If the Flames build a winning team, and have a new arena, they will have no issue attracting free agents.
I don't think any free agent they would be looking to sign, 2,3,4 years down the road would go "Calgary has a great offer but they traded Kadri that one time when they were bottom 5 in the league while he wanted to be there...I shouldn't sign there"
You can be good people and care about the human side of things, while still doing what is best for the organization.
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12-15-2025, 04:56 PM
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#15915
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I honestly think this is irrelevant if you build a winner.
Edmonton was terrible, once 97 and 29 were winning then guys would be more willing to sign there.
Florida was seen as the laughing stock of the NHL, put together a competitive team and that all changes.
If the Flames build a winning team, and have a new arena, they will have no issue attracting free agents.
I don't think any free agent they would be looking to sign, 2,3,4 years down the road would go "Calgary has a great offer but they traded Kadri that one time when they were bottom 5 in the league while he wanted to be there...I shouldn't sign there"
You can be good people and care about the human side of things, while still doing what is best for the organization.
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And that's the fault with the Flames. They're super cautious about stuff like that. Always have been .
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12-15-2025, 05:05 PM
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#15916
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
I’m not panic mode yet, but this narrative Friedman has spun a few times now scares me… wish I knew his source(s)
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Dreger has been saying roughly the same thing and we all think he is fed by uncle Nonnis, but it could just be positioning via the media. Like somehow that's going to improve offers. Maybe it will. IDK
Canucks were saying same just days before the Hughes trade - and it seems he was well shopped.
No one called the Wild as the rumoured destination. So media have some big blind spots on teams where guys like Wild Bill run a tight ship, no leaks.
That tells me teams use media for fan messaging when it is convenient (still competing, Kadri wants to win here) and/or to drive up prices from other teams (Kadri is too valuable a player to trade unless the offer blows our socks off).
I am going to keep telling myself that until there is action or the TDL passes.
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12-15-2025, 05:13 PM
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#15917
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
It just doesn't even make sense TBH.
If Kadri and Coleman were 27 years old with the term they have left on their deals then I could at least understand the argument.
But they are 35. There is no world where you shouldn't be aggressively shopping those guys while they have value, when you sit bottom 5 in the league.
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They should be shopping these guys whether bottom 5 or not IMO.
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12-15-2025, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Dreger has been saying roughly the same thing and we all think he is fed by uncle Nonnis, but it could just be positioning via the media. Like somehow that's going to improve offers. Maybe it will. IDK
Canucks were saying same just days before the Hughes trade - and it seems he was well shopped.
No one called the Wild as the rumoured destination. So media have some big blind spots on teams where guys like Wild Bill run a tight ship, no leaks.
That tells me teams use media for fan messaging when it is convenient (still competing, Kadri wants to win here) and/or to drive up prices from other teams (Kadri is too valuable a player to trade unless the offer blows our socks off).
I am going to keep telling myself that until there is action or the TDL passes.
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Friedman said himself said trading Hughes wasn’t a priority for them and that he wasn’t among the veterans they were looking at moving around a week before he got traded… and then we find out they’d been working on a trade since the summer and heavily shopping him for weeks.
So what I think people should do is sell their tickets for every home game for pennies on the dollar. That’s the only way to really show management they mean business! Enough “oh I might have to maybe think about maybe not supporting them with my season tickets MAYBE!” Nope. Sell your tickets for 10% of what they’re worth. That’ll show em. Have some guts ya cowards.
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12-15-2025, 05:17 PM
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#15919
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Friedman said himself said trading Hughes wasn’t a priority for them and that he wasn’t among the veterans they were looking at moving around a week before he got traded… and then we find out they’d been working on a trade since the summer and heavily shopping him for weeks.
So what I think people should do is sell their tickets for every home game for pennies on the dollar. That’s the only way to really show management they mean business! Enough “oh I might have to maybe think about maybe not supporting them with my season tickets MAYBE!” Nope. Sell your tickets for 10% of what they’re worth. That’ll show em. Have some guts ya cowards.
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Flames ticket resales are going for pennies on the dollar anyways.
I have a friend who bought 2nd bowl tickets for $25 last week lol. I saw the nosebleeds go for about $10 some games.
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12-15-2025, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhett44
Flames ticket resales are going for pennies on the dollar anyways.
I have a friend who bought 2nd bowl tickets for $25 last week lol. I saw the nosebleeds go for about $10 some games.
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Games vs Buffalo don’t count.
Lower bowl for $40, first 8 rows of the 200s for $25. Anyone who doesn’t sell them for that is a coward who won’t put their money where their mouth is!
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