12-14-2025, 08:53 PM
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#15861
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Funkhouser
What about Yurov?
Kadri, Ek, Hartman is decent depth. We could even through in Kirkland for their 4th line depth.
Kadri, Kirkland/Beecher
for Yurov, Benak/Stramel/Ritchie and two 2nds??
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They love Yurov. He's centring the first line. He's why they felt they could trade Rossi.
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12-14-2025, 10:56 PM
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#15862
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
For Andersson, I still want us to look into Carolina heavily. Would do Andersson for Nikishin straight up. Why do they consider that? Well, Slavin and Miller are already the top and middle pairing LD signed long term. I think Nikishin with the right deal could happen. If not Andersson, then maybe they would offer Nikishin, Kotkaniemi, and a 1st for Kadri. The Canes lack a legitimate 1-2 punch of Aho - ? and Kadri would fit that perfectly. 2C and a top pairing RD are their biggest needs.
Some of Canes' assets:
CAR 1sts 2026-2028
DAL 1st (2028)
Nikishin
Nadeau
Ryabkin
Cerrato
Artamonov
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They'd be dumb to.give us nikishin. If that was even close it should be an auto yes.
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For whatever it's worth, I used to be in Mensa and I agree completely.
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12-15-2025, 09:12 AM
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#15863
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Forget it, Conroy is trying to make the playoffs
Delusional but it is what it is
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Two weeks to go for "worst post of the year" awards.
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12-15-2025, 09:26 AM
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#15864
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Back in Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Two weeks to go for "worst post of the year" awards.
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I know you're joking, but....
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12-15-2025, 09:49 AM
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#15865
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Forget it, Conroy is trying to make the playoffs
Delusional but it is what it is
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I have to say that I find it ironic that the word "delusional" was used to describe someone else in this post
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12-15-2025, 10:20 AM
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#15867
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Franchise Player
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If Dougie has negative value, maybe he misses the Calgary libraries? We can eat this salary in a Rasmus Andersson trade. Dougie can mentor Parekh on the power play
Last edited by Geeoff; 12-15-2025 at 10:24 AM.
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12-15-2025, 10:45 AM
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#15868
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
If Dougie has negative value, maybe he misses the Calgary libraries? We can eat this salary in a Rasmus Andersson trade. Dougie can mentor Parekh on the power play
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You want Dougie mentoring our young players? Hard pass.
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12-15-2025, 10:55 AM
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#15869
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Clearing Dougie and Palat from their books opens up a slew of options for the Devil's. I'm surprised Dougie has no value outside of his perpetual injury situations.
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12-15-2025, 10:59 AM
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#15870
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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Pretty much screams clearing space to sign Quinn Hughes. If they can trade Hamilton in the offseason Ras would be a good target for them. We could take Palat back as a cap dump.
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12-15-2025, 11:01 AM
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#15871
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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The reporting from Friedman was that a couple of NJ players used their NTCs to veto trades that would have cleared up cap space for Hughes or other players.
Can assume it was Hamilton and Palat. According to capwages they both submit a 10 team trade list.
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12-15-2025, 11:03 AM
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#15872
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Franchise Player
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Nearly 40% into the season and four teams out of 32 have a "losing" record.
Part of that is parity and part is how the league manufactures playoff races by handing out points for losing close games. But it is somewhat unique to this season with no real horrible teams. I'm not really sure what that does to the trade market but I imagine teams that are willing to be bold can take advantage.
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12-15-2025, 11:08 AM
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#15873
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zulu29
You want Dougie mentoring our young players? Hard pass.
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When Dougie goes to the library, we can have Zayne eat steak or drink whisky or something else manly. The Devils are obviously looking to move some big pieces to upgrade their defense. It would be nice to have some of the rumoured pieces they offered for Hughes. (obviously you would not get all of them for Andersson)
Last edited by Geeoff; 12-15-2025 at 11:11 AM.
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12-15-2025, 11:09 AM
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#15874
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Nearly 40% into the season and four teams out of 32 have a "losing" record.
Part of that is parity and part is how the league manufactures playoff races by handing out points for losing close games. But it is somewhat unique to this season with no real horrible teams. I'm not really sure what that does to the trade market but I imagine teams that are willing to be bold can take advantage.
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Teams with GMs that are aggressive will realize it could be their year to do damage. Other GMs will throw up their hands, insist they have a chance, and refuse to sell.
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12-15-2025, 11:10 AM
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#15875
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
The reporting from Friedman was that a couple of NJ players used their NTCs to veto trades that would have cleared up cap space for Hughes or other players.
Can assume it was Hamilton and Palat. According to capwages they both submit a 10 team trade list.
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Well it might not have worked out for Hughes on where he wanted to go , but it sure worked out well for Canucks considering. Can’t see devils beating the wild offer.
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12-15-2025, 11:18 AM
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#15876
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First Line Centre
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I'd be all over taking Hamilton or Palat as a dump
Palat + 1st for coleman makes sense to me.
we're probably on the no-trade though
Last edited by traptor; 12-15-2025 at 11:20 AM.
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12-15-2025, 11:20 AM
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#15877
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
When Dougie goes to the library, we can have Zayne eat steak or drink whisky or something else manly. The Devils are obviously looking to move some big pieces to upgrade their defense. It would be nice to have some of the rumoured pieces they offered for Hughes. (obviously you would not get all of them for Andersson)
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Well Zayne is, for better or worse, also a hockey player with a brain. So he might want to also go to the library.
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12-15-2025, 11:27 AM
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#15878
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by traptor
I'd be all over taking Hamilton or Palat as a dump
Palat + 1st for coleman makes sense to me.
we're probably on the no-trade though
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Getting NJ 2026 1st, even if lottery protected could be a great piece. They’re currently on the bubble with how tight the East is, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see them miss or at least be a 1st round out. That pick is likely 14-20
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12-15-2025, 11:44 AM
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#15879
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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With Seguin out, I do think Hamilton would make some sense to Dallas, with retention. 9m x 3 (expires 2028) is a tough cap hit considering they've got to re-sign Robertson. What if we stepped in and eat some Hamilton salary, along with 50% retention on Coleman? That should be fetching us a good return from Dallas while NJ gets out of a 9m contract and only has to pay the Hamilton retention and a player like Lyubushkin. CGY and NJ could each eat 1.8m, DAL sends Lyubushkin (3.25 x 2) to NJ. Bichsel is a great piece for Dallas, however, they've got to give to get to grab someone like Hamilton at only 5.4m
NJ retention: 9m x 20% (1.8m) = 7.2m
CGY retention: 7.2m x 25% (1.8m) = 5.4m
To CGY:
(Dougie Hamilton 1.8m retention, exp. 2028)
(Blake Coleman 2.45m retention, exp. 2027)
Liam Bichsel - .918m x 2
2027 1st (DAL)
2029 2nd (DAL)
Oskar Back - .825m x 2
- Highly unrealistic, but this is where Calgary could obtain a player with high potential (Bichsel) and getting a 1st by helping a contending team grab a good player with retention. Might seem like a biased view, but I don't think we are in the wrong asking for this much in return when we are helping out Dallas with a combined 9.9m in cap savings over a 3-year span.
To NJ:
(Dougie Hamilton 1.8m retention, exp. 2028)
Ilya Lyubushkin - 3.25m x 2
- Jersey saves a 4m for another cap need(s) and will figure out Palat later. They'll need space for Nemec re-signing.
To DAL:
Dougie Hamilton - 5.4m x 3
Blake Coleman - 2.45 x 2
- 3.6m (1.8m x 2 teams) x 3 and 2.45m retention to Coleman gives Dallas 15.3m in cap savings over the 3-year span (3.6m x 3, 2.45 x 2). This allows them to extend Robertson with ease and roll with that crazy good top 4 defense that can all eat 22+ minutes. The bottom pairing would barely have to come in.
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12-15-2025, 11:54 AM
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#15880
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
With Seguin out, I do think Hamilton would make some sense to Dallas, with retention. 9m x 3 (expires 2028) is a tough cap hit considering they've got to re-sign Robertson. What if we stepped in and eat some Hamilton salary, along with 50% retention on Coleman? That should be fetching us a good return from Dallas while NJ gets out of a 9m contract and only has to pay the Hamilton retention and a player like Lyubushkin. CGY and NJ could each eat 1.8m, DAL sends Lyubushkin (3.25 x 2) to NJ. Bichsel is a great piece for Dallas, however, they've got to give to get to grab someone like Hamilton at only 5.4m
NJ retention: 9m x 20% (1.8m) = 7.2m
CGY retention: 7.2m x 25% (1.8m) = 5.4m
To CGY:
(Dougie Hamilton 1.8m retention, exp. 2028)
(Blake Coleman 2.45m retention, exp. 2027)
Liam Bichsel - .918m x 2
2027 1st (DAL)
2029 2nd (DAL)
Oskar Back - .825m x 2
- Highly unrealistic, but this is where Calgary could obtain a player with high potential (Bichsel) and getting a 1st by helping a contending team grab a good player with retention. Might seem like a biased view, but I don't think we are in the wrong asking for this much in return when we are helping out Dallas with a combined 9.9m in cap savings over a 3-year span.
To NJ:
(Dougie Hamilton 1.8m retention, exp. 2028)
Ilya Lyubushkin - 3.25m x 2
- Jersey saves a 4m for another cap need(s) and will figure out Palat later. They'll need space for Nemec re-signing.
To DAL:
Dougie Hamilton - 5.4m x 3
Blake Coleman - 2.45 x 2
- 3.6m (1.8m x 2 teams) x 3 and 2.45m retention to Coleman gives Dallas 15.3m in cap savings over the 3-year span (3.6m x 3, 2.45 x 2). This allows them to extend Robertson with ease and roll with that crazy good top 4 defense that can all eat 22+ minutes. The bottom pairing would barely have to come in.
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The new salary retention rules come into play. To double retain, the player has to be on your roster for at least 75 regular season days.
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