[Trade] Canucks trade Quinn Hughes to the Wild for 2026 1st, Rossi, Buium, and Ohgren

[GioforPM]

This trade is not much different than the Markstrom trade really. Both stars wanted out - Hughes being the bigger star. The return was based on picks and young players.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

100% agreed. And I think we probably all agreed things would be better if they had either taken a futures deal for Tkachuk (the Canes one) or flipped Hubey for futures after. But they were clearly trying to salvage a contention window at the time, and all their moves showed that (same with trading the 1st with Monahan to sign Kadri.)

Sutter made that impossible, they never would have started the rebuild with him at the helm. Once the Flames had the GM and coach to rebuild with they started doing it fairly quickly.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

You may have to organize a riot.

I'm too sad.

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Ok all good. I will accept we have a different view of it and move on

Edit: didn’t mean to quote Vinny. Not sure how that happened

You hit the little quote + thingy and it added it to you next post.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by kehatch

The Canucks traded two superstars that still had term left. The Flames traded guys on expiring deals nearly two years ago and have done almost nothing since.

Wait - you keep saying when the Flames trade players that ask to be traded, it doesn't count. But when the Nucks do it, they're proactive, and doing it right?

Also, Miller is a superstar? LOL

If you want to be taken seriously, try to keep it real.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by kehatch

Anytime you trade someone the caliber if JT Miller you are performing some level of rebuild. Its a team making decisive moves. The Flames try and sign a player until the nth hour and then trade them when they fail, take no action in any direction for long periods of time, bring out the president to reiterate we aren't rebuilding.

I wish the Flames would take a more decisive direction and make aggressive moves to support that direction. We make moves when forced, or we take half measures.

The Nucks were forced to act with both Miller and Hughes.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The Nucks were forced to act with both Miller and Hughes.

Or they could have traded Peterson?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by kehatch

Anytime you trade someone the caliber if JT Miller you are performing some level of rebuild. Its a team making decisive moves. The Flames try and sign a player until the nth hour and then trade them when they fail, take no action in any direction for long periods of time, bring out the president to reiterate we aren't rebuilding.

I wish the Flames would take a more decisive direction and make aggressive moves to support that direction. We make moves when forced, or we take half measures.

Lol, they traded the first they got for Miller for a 29 year old

Seriously are you guys trolling?

[Calgary4LIfe]

I haven't read all of the posts here, but skimming this thread is a real eye-opener. There are actually people who are 100% adamant that the Canucks are rebuilding and are actually way ahead of the Flames in the rebuild, and that the Flames are not rebuilding at all. WTF?


I feel like I have taken the wrong pill. Here I see one team trade assets for futures. I see another team trade a single asset for one future and 3 players that they can fit into their roster (albeit young). I am not convinced that the Canucks are rebuilding. Heck, although their best player in this trade by a wide margin in Hughes, I can actually see the Canucks working their way up the rankings with some players coming back from injury, and them getting a 2nd line center in this deal. Buium is going to be a FANTASTIC #1 defencmen down the road, but he is already contributing now.


I am absolutely shocked by how far Winnipeg has fallen in the standings with Hellebuyck out. They play completely different without him I guess. Maybe the same is also true for Vancouver. I think they finish out of the bottom 3 this season (unless they make more trades of course). I can see them still finishing outside of the bottom 5.


That's one heck of a return. The win has to go to the Wild for getting the best player (and one of the league's best players overall), but the Canucks could very well win this deal long-term. They did better than I thought they could given the circumstances. I am curious to see how they do in the next 10 games. Definitely curious if they start selling more players.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I haven't read all of the posts here, but skimming this thread is a real eye-opener. There are actually people who are 100% adamant that the Canucks are rebuilding and are actually way ahead of the Flames in the rebuild, and that the Flames are not rebuilding at all. WTF?


I feel like I have taken the wrong pill. Here I see one team trade assets for futures. I see another team trade a single asset for one future and 3 players that they can fit into their roster (albeit young). I am not convinced that the Canucks are rebuilding. Heck, although their best player in this trade by a wide margin in Hughes, I can actually see the Canucks working their way up the rankings with some players coming back from injury, and them getting a 2nd line center in this deal. Buium is going to be a FANTASTIC #1 defencmen down the road, but he is already contributing now.


I am absolutely shocked by how far Winnipeg has fallen in the standings with Hellebuyck out. They play completely different without him I guess. Maybe the same is also true for Vancouver. I think they finish out of the bottom 3 this season (unless they make more trades of course). I can see them still finishing outside of the bottom 5.


That's one heck of a return. The win has to go to the Wild for getting the best player (and one of the league's best players overall), but the Canucks could very well win this deal long-term. They did better than I thought they could given the circumstances. I am curious to see how they do in the next 10 games. Definitely curious if they start selling more players.

I was surprised any team wanted Hughes other than NJ. It’s surely not a long term move for Minnie and they’ve been burned before on the big move.

[activeStick]

There are several reports that Quinn isn't too crazy about going to NJ because he thinks it would hurt Luke.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Can't quote you Gio:


The question would always be how much a team is willing to pay for Hughes. In the end, the answer was: "Lots". I was sure a good 20+ teams would be in on this. Sounds like there wasn't. Maybe the Canucks could have gotten more closer to the deadline, but that's a good package. I thought he would go for 3 good pieces, but he went for 4. In today's market, if the Canucks really want to rebuild, they can turn around and sell Rossi now for a 1st + something too. How much would Montreal pay up for Rossi?


As for re-signing Hughes - they have 1.5 years to convince him. Be a good top-end team, and maybe he decides to stay there? Like others have mentioned, maybe he doesn't want to go to NJ and displace his brother on PP1? I am doubtful anyone really wants to play in Minnesota, but if they turn into a consistent top-end team, why wouldn't he want to stay? Winning solves a lot of issues, and so does a pile of money. Give Hughes both, and he may find it difficult to say no.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Can't quote you Gio:


The question would always be how much a team is willing to pay for Hughes. In the end, the answer was: "Lots". I was sure a good 20+ teams would be in on this. Sounds like there wasn't. Maybe the Canucks could have gotten more closer to the deadline, but that's a good package. I thought he would go for 3 good pieces, but he went for 4. In today's market, if the Canucks really want to rebuild, they can turn around and sell Rossi now for a 1st + something too. How much would Montreal pay up for Rossi?


As for re-signing Hughes - they have 1.5 years to convince him. Be a good top-end team, and maybe he decides to stay there? Like others have mentioned, maybe he doesn't want to go to NJ and displace his brother on PP1? I am doubtful anyone really wants to play in Minnesota, but if they turn into a consistent top-end team, why wouldn't he want to stay? Winning solves a lot of issues, and so does a pile of money. Give Hughes both, and he may find it difficult to say no.

It’s news to me that he doesn’t want to play with his brother in NJ. That’s the opposite of all the reporting leading up to this.

Rossi’s injured so any trade of him as the focus has to wait. But it depends if he can re-establish himself as a centre, since he lost that role in Minnie.

It was a good return especially considering I don’t think all that many teams were in it. Not too many teams can handle the salary, or pay the acquisition cost for a Hughes. Which is partly why NJ lost out I think - they didn’t have the assets.

[dino7c]

Montreal didn't have to trade for Huberdeau they were just going to sign him for free
St. Louis didn't have to trade for Tkachuk they were going to sign him for free
TO didn't have to trade for McDavid he was going there as a FA ASAP

There are always reports like this...I bet Minny signs him

[Blaster86]

He was literally getting roughly the same amount of minutes as Eriksson Ek at center?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I was surprised any team wanted Hughes other than NJ. It’s surely not a long term move for Minnie and they’ve been burned before on the big move.

On the flip side, people cling to this “brothers want to play together”’story line, but I have serious doubts that it’s the most important thing to them.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

He was literally getting roughly the same amount of minutes as Eriksson Ek at center?

yeah, I don't know where the "he lost his center spot" thing is coming from. He 100% played center for the Wild this season and did very well there ... these were the Wild's top line combinations from the first 12 games, before his injury:

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

He was literally getting roughly the same amount of minutes as Eriksson Ek at center?

Not lately. They moved him to wing, at least according to articles I read. They liked Yurov at C

Edit: though some articles think that the Wild coaching staff were unfairly penalizing Rossi for his size and not fitting their notion of a centre. They buried him in the POs last season.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It’s news to me that he doesn’t want to play with his brother in NJ. That’s the opposite of all the reporting leading up to this.

Rossi’s injured so any trade of him as the focus has to wait. But it depends if he can re-establish himself as a centre, since he lost that role in Minnie.

It was a good return especially considering I don’t think all that many teams were in it. Not too many teams can handle the salary, or pay the acquisition cost for a Hughes. Which is partly why NJ lost out I think - they didn’t have the assets.

I think NJ had the assets, they just didn't want to part with them.

Not that, in the end, it makes any difference.

[Johnny Makarov]

To those who think the Canucks are a well managed team.. lol

To Calgary #Flames
Joel Farabee
Morgan Frost
Hunter Brzustewicz
Matvei Gridin
Luke Misa
Eric Jamieson

To Philadelphia #Flyers
Shane Vansaghi
2028 7th rounder

To Vancouver #Canucks
11 goals 11 assists

hahahaha

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I think NJ had the assets, they just didn't want to part with them.

Not that, in the end, it makes any difference.

If they can get him for free in a year and a half, they probably didn’t. But I don’t think they have the young players of that quality. Rossi > Mercer. Buiem > Nemec IMO