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Old 12-12-2025, 07:46 PM   #121
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Except there was a very limited number of teams Tkachuck would OK a sign-and-trade with. Different scenarios.
Six. Three of which were not legitimate
The three were Carolina, St Louis and Florida
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Old 12-12-2025, 07:46 PM   #122
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It seems as though making a player available and selling them quickly CAN yield excellent results. Who would have guessed.
As of last week Friedman reported Hughes wasn’t available.

Maybe we don’t know everything we pretend to know about what goes on behind the scenes all the time.
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If Andersson would get a protected 1st, Conroy would have driven him to the airport himself.
He could have already gotten it.
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so are you doubling down here, suggesting the Flames won't get a 1st for Andersson?
I'm saying if there was a lottery protected 1st offered for Andersson, he'd be traded.

That's what I'm saying.
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So the Canucks can trade one of the best dmen in the league with no hesitation and get an amazing return to kick start a rebuild.

Why are we so scared to put vet players on the market? It is so frustrating. This also completely destroys the myth that good returns only happen at the trade deadline.
Sigh...you think they are comparable at all?
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Would love to know what the other offers were
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Six. Three of which were not legitimate
The three were Carolina, St Louis and Florida
Should of taken canes offer, wasnt Necas involved? Treliving strikes again.
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I'm saying if there was a lottery protected 1st offered for Andersson, he'd be traded.

That's what I'm saying.
I know for a fact that is incorrect.
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Should of taken canes offer, wasnt Necas involved? Treliving strikes again.
In retrospective I agree
I don’t think it would have approached this haul though
Likely Necas, a first and a dman
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I am in the minority but I think this is a good move and gamble by the Wild. The Wild get to sell him on their organization. They just acquired the second best, if not, the best defenseman in the league. He is such a game changer. They have increased their chances of going far this year by adding him.

They do have contract options available to Hughes that other teams can not offer. Money talks. If there is no progress on contract talks in the summer, they can still recoup some assets back, or maybe just go all in again next year. If I was a Wild fan I would be happy.
I think it's a huge trade for MIN - they just elevated their core from decent to great. And pretty young too

Kaprisov 28
Boldy 24
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Hughes 26
Faber 23
Wallstedt 23

I also think VAN did as well as they could have hoped, so it's a great trade.
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Damn. That’s why you don’t wait until the contract is expiring to decide to trade a player.
Hughes is the best dman in franchise history, probably #2 in the entire league and in his prime. Its not comparable at all.
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In retrospective I agree
I don’t think it would have approached this haul though
Likely Necas, a first and a dman
Rumour was Necas, 1st, Pesce, and another piece I thought
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This year and next, plus the HUGE advantage of being able to offer 8 years, and front-loaded bonuses.

I would think the likelihood that they re-sign him is greater than 805, probably greater than 90%
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1.5years of Hughes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.5 years of Andersson.

No way Andersson returns an Iggy or Desnoyers, although his trade value is high.

You don't get an elite prospect without trading an elite piece with multiple years left.
You guys were here a few years back when we did the Tkachuk to Florida sign and trade, right? Is there a reason we can't do the same with Andersson (provided he agrees to the destination, etc etc etc etc etc)?
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I'm saying if there was a lottery protected 1st offered for Andersson, he'd be traded.

That's what I'm saying.
LOL, okay. Yes, let's chat again when the trade happens.
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Hughes is the best dman in franchise history, probably #2 in the entire league and in his prime. Its not comparable at all.
It's not comparable in the sense of the return you'd expect.

But if this was the Flames I'd almost guarantee they wouldn't have acted as quick. They would have spent the rest of the season trying to convince Hughes to stay, then maybe traded him in the offseason.
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Rumour was Necas, 1st, Pesce, and another piece I thought
I think you are right. I couldn’t remember the dman.
And likely a second tier prospect of some sort


According to Lebrun these were the teams on this list (from the athletic)

“The Flames investigated the market for Tkachuk, based on the list of teams they got from the player’s reps at Newport Sports, which included the Blues, Avalanche, Lightning, Golden Knights, Hurricanes and, of course, Panthers.

The Stanley Cup finalists, Tampa Bay and Colorado, were never logical options for cap and roster reasons.

So the list got cut down in a hurry.”
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Hughes / Andersson are absolutely not comparable.

But Hughes has been traded, and he doesn't matter anymore... because Andersson is now the #1 available defenceman on the market.
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You guys were here a few years back when we did the Tkachuk to Florida sign and trade, right? Is there a reason we can't do the same with Andersson (provided he agrees to the destination, etc etc etc etc etc)?
No except to this point it seems like he has little interest in doing that
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Old 12-12-2025, 07:53 PM   #139
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Would love to know what the other offers were
One team offered their only assets in Skinner and Kulak but got laughed at so had to pivot.
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Andersson is no Hughes but he has to get a 1st and A level prospect at this point easily if they can do a sign and trade. No shot it’s less than that. Top pair point producing RHD don’t grow on trees. Teams that missed out on Hughes can rejig their packages. He’s better than Carlo. I don’t see how it could be less.
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