Layoffs in the Oil Patch 3

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

If dollars and cents are the end goal - I can't think about a dumber way than to stretch a layoff period out for 2 years. As a 25 year lifer, maybe they're trying to go the working notice route to save a few bucks but having been in that situation - your productive output is like 15% of norm.

Give them the warrior's death - quick and simple.

SOBO was last week, Conoco and Parkland to come. No wonder why Costcos are so busy on weekdays now....

Seems bizarre to me. I think pensions are a big part of it. They want to reach a number.

[Locke]

I hate bumping this thread, but I've gotten 3 phone calls just today from clients who got their walking papers.

Some little company that rhymes with Ce-knows-Us appears to be doing a hefty round.

[ah123]

Originally Posted by Locke

I hate bumping this thread, but I've gotten 3 phone calls just today from clients who got their walking papers.

Some little company that rhymes with Ce-knows-Us appears to be doing a hefty round.

Well they have to reach their ”efficiencies” after purchasing MEG.

[fotze2]

I heard Cenovus which rhymes with Clitoris was getting into it today.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by fotze2

I heard Cenovus which rhymes with Clitoris was getting into it today.

Why some otherwise inauspicious Tuesday in December?

[puffnstuff]

Would it be MEG people that they arent keeping? Or did they already do that?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Would it be MEG people that they arent keeping? Or did they already do that?

I cant really speak to that per se, but the people I talked to today were long-term Cenovus employees.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Kiwetinohk, which rhymes with absolutely nothing, dumped a large number last week, after its plan of arrangement went through.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Would it be MEG people that they arent keeping? Or did they already do that?

Lots of MEG people got their walking papers. Probably some cenovus people too in the right sizing.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Locke

I cant really speak to that per se, but the people I talked to today were long-term Cenovus employees.

It would depend on who is cheaper. If you suddenly have two guys for the same job and guy M has a lower salary then long term C guy can get the papers.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

Kiwetinohk, which rhymes with absolutely nothing, dumped a large number last week, after its plan of arrangement went through.

We had a deal to buy them but fell through at the end. Who ended up getting them?

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by fotze2

We had a deal to buy them but fell through at the end. Who ended up getting them?

Cygnet.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Cygnet.

Pat Carlson is one unique fella. Had dinner with him a few times. Fascinating but weird dude for sure.

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Pat Carlson is one unique fella. Had dinner with him a few times. Fascinating but weird dude for sure.

I remember him from the Seven Generations days. Played hockey with his son.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Are there any Calgary HR types here? I've always had the suspicion that when you're laid off without cause, it's common practice that you're on an unofficial "do not hire / let this person consult" at this place ever again list.

That true? Sure I know of exceptions, but they seem to be just that. Or is this more of the company assuming that bridge is burnt with the employee?

[Torture]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

Are there any Calgary HR types here? I've always had the suspicion that when you're laid off without cause, it's common practice that you're on an unofficial "do not hire / let this person consult" at this place ever again list.

That true? Sure I know of exceptions, but they seem to be just that. Or is this more of the company assuming that bridge is burnt with the employee?

I dont know why you would mark someone as not eligible for rehire if it was without cause term unless theres more to the story. (It might legally be without cause but there is still...cause) Probably varies by company policy and case by case . Where I work (not O&G) we reserve "do not rehire" strictly for exceptional cases of misconduct, theft, etc.

[Weitz]

It’s situational. But a lot of without cause firings are performance based so it could be a situation where they may not be interested again. Not necessarily a do not hire list.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

Are there any Calgary HR types here? I've always had the suspicion that when you're laid off without cause, it's common practice that you're on an unofficial "do not hire / let this person consult" at this place ever again list.

That true? Sure I know of exceptions, but they seem to be just that. Or is this more of the company assuming that bridge is burnt with the employee?

You want to hire someone you punted? or you got punted and they want to hire you back?

[Shazam]

My back neighbour was a 'geer, he got laid off eight times.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally Posted by fotze2

You want to hire someone you punted? or you got punted and they want to hire you back?

Regs changed, and the work I was hired to do is probably going to be delayed a couple years. There's the potential for what I bring to be needed then. So I'm expecting to be cut - just debating if I self select or wait out the axe (recognizing the 'package' isn't going to be more than 3-4 weeks with a year of service vs 2 weeks notice if I self select)