2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Vinny01]

The Sharks trading Karlsson with years left after 100pt Norris season for futures and also dealing Timo Meier in his mid 20’s with RFA control for futures another couple of examples.

Also giving the Flames credit for the Markstrom trade where they got Bahl might not qualify according to Pepsi?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Right - it was one year before they tanked, so his second year with them. But they traded Kane within a year of signing Jones.

They also hired a new GM in that timeframe who took the team in a different direction than the one who made the Jones trade in the first place

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

They also hired a new GM in that timeframe who took the team in a different direction than the one who made the Jones trade in the first place

Fair enough. But they got rid of Jones not so much because he couldn't be part of a rebuild but mor because they got a great deal. It wasn't just to be worse and tank. As some people want with Kadri and Coleman. After all, they had a (slightly) better record without him than the year before

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The Sharks trading Karlsson with years left after 100pt Norris season for futures and also dealing Timo Meier in his mid 20’s with RFA control for futures another couple of examples.

Also giving the Flames credit for the Markstrom trade where they got Bahl might not qualify according to Pepsi?

Well the Sharks got Granlund (and other players) so it probably does not count either, or Meier for that matter as they got Zetterlund. But I think they both count.

But you are correct, trading guys with multiple years left on their contract for futures has happened 6 or 7 times in the past decade, with the Flames having one of those times. It is likely by the end of the year that the Flames will have at least 20% of the trades that are of that sort, possibly as high as 30%, in that last decade.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Fair enough. But they got rid of Jones not so much because he couldn't be part of a rebuild but mor because they got a great deal. It wasn't just to be worse and tank. As some people want with Kadri and Coleman. After all, they had a (slightly) better record without him than the year before

Flames fans do not want Kadri and Coleman traded to improve the tank. That is an added benefit for this year but ultimately a team that is in the early stages of a rebuild holding onto players who are 34 and 35 doesn’t make any sense.

I really hope the Flames move off of these guys this year so I am going to remain hopeful but considering they have rarely done it I am also skeptical it will happen.

I want them to trade these guys for the good returns that Frank said is available to them if they decide to move these guys. If moving these guys has the team dropping back down the standings that is part of leaning into the 2-9-2 start to where they have gone 10-6-2 since

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Well the Sharks got Granlund (and other players) so it probably does not count either, or Meier for that matter as they got Zetterlund. But I think they both count.

But you are correct, trading guys with multiple years left on their contract for futures has happened 6 or 7 times in the past decade, with the Flames having one of those times. It is likely by the end of the year that the Flames will have at least 20% of the trades that are of that sort, possibly as high as 30%, in that last decade.

I am just pulling examples from my head I am sure it happened more but you can do the research if you want.

I think if the Flames actually capitalize on the value for Kadri and Coleman this year they will need to add some veterans to which I am not going to criticize just like if they make trades for longer term pieces in the summer.

Calgary has done it twice in the cap era. Let’s see if they do it again.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Flames fans do not want Kadri and Coleman traded to improve the tank. That is an added benefit for this year but ultimately a team that is in the early stages of a rebuild holding onto players who are 34 and 35 doesn’t make any sense.

I really hope the Flames move off of these guys this year so I am going to remain hopeful but considering they have rarely done it I am also skeptical it will happen.

I want them to trade these guys for the good returns that Frank said is available to them if they decide to move these guys. If moving these guys has the team dropping back down the standings that is part of leaning into the 2-9-2 start to where they have gone 10-6-2 since

In fairness to the Flames, guys like that are rarely traded regardless of where one is at in a rebuild. The Ducks held on to Fowler to the point that they got almost nothing for him, held on to Gibson to the point that they got next to nothing for him, never traded Strome, Killorn or Gudas. It is pretty rare for rebuilding teams to make those trades. But they do happen sometimes.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I am just pulling examples from my head I am sure it happened more but you can do the research if you want.

I think if the Flames actually capitalize on the value for Kadri and Coleman this year they will need to add some veterans to which I am not going to criticize just like if they make trades for longer term pieces in the summer.

Calgary has done it twice in the cap era. Let’s see if they do it again.

I am pretty sure you got basically every example in the past decade or so.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Flames fans do not want Kadri and Coleman traded to improve the tank. That is an added benefit for this year but ultimately a team that is in the early stages of a rebuild holding onto players who are 34 and 35 doesn’t make any sense.

I really hope the Flames move off of these guys this year so I am going to remain hopeful but considering they have rarely done it I am also skeptical it will happen.

I want them to trade these guys for the good returns that Frank said is available to them if they decide to move these guys. If moving these guys has the team dropping back down the standings that is part of leaning into the 2-9-2 start to where they have gone 10-6-2 since

I can name at least one poster who wants them moved more because it will cause losses than for any particular return.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Flames fans do not want Kadri and Coleman traded to improve the tank. That is an added benefit for this year but ultimately a team that is in the early stages of a rebuild holding onto players who are 34 and 35 doesn’t make any sense.

I really hope the Flames move off of these guys this year so I am going to remain hopeful but considering they have rarely done it I am also skeptical it will happen.

I want them to trade these guys for the good returns that Frank said is available to them if they decide to move these guys. If moving these guys has the team dropping back down the standings that is part of leaning into the 2-9-2 start to where they have gone 10-6-2 since

If the Flames get the right offer they will move guys, there is zero pressure to do so with those two though which is great. If you don't get the value you want there is always next year.

[traptor]

Not sure if it was mentioned but hertl had term and got traded for futures only.


Also Carlo.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

If the Flames get the right offer they will move guys, there is zero pressure to do so with those two though which is great. If you don't get the value you want there is always next year.

Should we be concerned with this huge hot streak, that we are not going to trade Andersson, Kadri, and Coleman?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

In fairness to the Flames, guys like that are rarely traded regardless of where one is at in a rebuild. The Ducks held on to Fowler to the point that they got almost nothing for him, held on to Gibson to the point that they got next to nothing for him, never traded Strome, Killorn or Gudas. It is pretty rare for rebuilding teams to make those trades. But they do happen sometimes.

The Flames will have Huberdeau, Weegar, Backlund as those vets they keep around and might add their own Killorn to the mix through trade or free agency.

Kadri is playing amazing right now at 35. He is a prime asset to get hopefully the biggest return Conroy will get in this building phase of his management run. He could hold onto him but why do that if you are in a rebuild? They are not adding pieces or spending a bunch of cap. Why not use assets that will be severely diminshed or gone when this team really wants to win?

That is why I am hopeful if happens but the more they win the harder it is to see them do it

[SuperMatt18]

Yup. I'm less concerned about the wins in terms of draft position but more just the overall strategy.

They have such a golden opportunity to trade Andersson, Kadri, and Coleman for a premium this season.

Just don't make the short sighted decision and make sure you move those guys before the deadline no matter what position you're in.

Doesn't make sense for this team to hang on to 35+ year old forwards that are going to be able to command a premium in a trade, no matter the circumstances of this season

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I am pretty sure you got basically every example in the past decade or so.

Treliving gave up futures for Laughton and Carlo and neither guy would get the same value if they moved this deadline. The Sharks flipped Walman with a year left in a pump and dump situation.

The red wings trading Hronek is another.

[traptor]

Guys with more then a year get traded all the time.
I was restricting it to strictly futures only deals, but often time there is a roster player coming back the other way, which is probably what would happen when trading a Kadri or coleman




Also how long does everyone think this "rebuild" will continue?


We're going on year 4 of no playoffs. This ownership group will want to speed this thing up sooner then later, especially with the arena on the horizon. Last year, this year and next year are our critical rebuilding years to bottom out and accrue assets. They're not going to stretch this 7+ years while he head into a new arena.
The pieces we get now is what will form the core. I like the pieces we have so far to form our future core, but it doesn't project as a future contender yet.

[Vinny01]

Arizona moved Chychurn for a larger return because he had more than a year left on his deal. Ottawa for significantly less for both him and Debrincat when moving them when they did

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by traptor

Guys with more then a year get traded all the time.
I was restricting it to strictly futures only deals, but often time there is a roster player coming back the other way, which is probably what would happen when trading a Kadri or coleman




Also how long does everyone think this "rebuild" will continue?


We're going on year 4 of no playoffs. This ownership group will want to speed this thing up sooner then later, especially with the arena on the horizon. Last year, this year and next year are our critical rebuilding years to bottom out and accrue assets. They're not going to stretch this 7+ years while he head into a new arena.
The pieces we get now is what will form the core. I like the pieces we have so far to form our future core, but it doesn't project as a future contender yet.

I tend to think they will try a fast rebuild where they look to draft high for this and next drafts, and also have multiple 1sts and 2nds. But with Reschny, Parekh, Gridin, Potter, Kuznetsov, Bruz, Coronato, Bahl, Honzek and Wolf already in the works, they may feel that those are enough to move forward with, along with Weegar and Huberdeau and whoever they draft in the next couple years.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Arizona moved Chychurn for a larger return because he had more than a year left on his deal. Ottawa for significantly less for both him and Debrincat when moving them when they did

Flames could use one of these guys demanding a trade like Chychrun did. That would expedite the process for sure. But I think it will get done by the Flames even without that impetus.

If Treliving had any assets yet he would be a prime target to try to trade with, he has never seen a future asset he does not want to trade. Unfortunately he does not have much left in the cupboard.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Tell me how the Debrincat trade where he was moved with a year left and a year of RFA control for a draft pick does not meet that criteria? Spencer Knight was in the AHL last season and was far from a proven NHL talent.

I just pulled some things off the top of my head my head. You seem very capable of your own research so don’t let me stop you there

Well, you said “more than a year left on their deal for futures,” so that doesn’t include Debrincat who had a year left on his deal (many Flames have had a year left beyond Markstrom and Bouwmeester) and doesn’t include Jones since Knight was not futures (almost the same number of NHL games when he was traded that Wolf has right now…. is Wolf a prospect/futures? I thought he was a starting goaltender… a bit confusing).

I am capable of my own research which is why I was a bit surprised this limited amount of trades of players with 2+ years of contract left for futures was being framed as a Flames thing, when it seems like most teams have very very limited examples.

I thought perhaps you might have a source that lists these trades so I could compare them and see where I got it wrong. If you have one it’d be worth checking out, since some of the examples people are throwing out and the ones you could come up with off the top of your head don’t seem to match. I’d be very curious to see!