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Originally Posted by Brupal
If you’re going to gripe about something, at least take the time to get your facts right.
Tesla's best quarter ever was the most recent third quarter of 2025 (Q3 2025), when it achieved record vehicle deliveries (nearly 497,000) and energy storage deployments (12.5 GWh), and also posted its highest-ever quarterly revenue of $28.1 billion. Hardly stagnant.
And while we’re at it, Musk pays little tax because he isn’t paid a salary. His compensation is all in stock awards. And since his previous compensation plan was hampered by the Delaware court, Musk has not been paid in many years.
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You understand people have access to facts, right? You are aware there was a huge rush to buy EV's in the US before the rebates disappeared, correct? Or is that new information to you?
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Tesla faces sales pressure in the world’s three biggest car markets: Europe, China and the United States. The electric-vehicle maker's sales fell 48.5% across Europe in October versus the same month last year, according to data released by the European Automobile Manufacturers' Association on Tuesday. For the year, its sales are down about 30% in the region, while industrywide EV sales jumped 26%.
Tesla's global vehicle deliveries are expected to decline 7% this year, according to Visible Alpha, after a 1% drop in 2024. That is despite record third-quarter deliveries, which were juiced by American car buyers racing to beat the September 30 expiration of an EV tax credit.
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https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...id-2025-11-26/
I'll give you one thing, 7% decline isn't stagnant sales, so you are correct there. Now, because you believe everything Elon tells you will happen, that must be tough to reconcile a 7% decline with his 30% "prediction" that boosted the stock price because for some reason people believe things Elon says.
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Known for his oftentimes overly optimistic timelines, Musk said “To take a bit of risk here I do want to give a rough estimate which is that I think 20 to 30 percent vehicle growth next year.” After meandering for a few moments he repeated the guidance. “With our lower-cost vehicles, with the advent of autonomy, something like 20 to 30 percent growth next year is my best guess.” Share prices for Tesla jumped some 12 percent after the call.
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https://www.carscoops.com/2024/10/el...-share-prices/
He predicted 20 million vehicles a year of annual production by the early 2030's. So I think he's got some work to do, as this shows his forecasted growth model has some holes in it. But this was way back in 2022.
https://www.autonews.com/manufacturi...be-10-million/
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As to his previous compensation plan being "hampered by a court," that's a rather hilarious spin on the fact that they broke rules meant to protect investors. Yes, those horrible courts doing the job they exist for. And no, shareholder votes can not over-rule laws. Because even the suggestion of that would be dumb for reasons you should be able to figure out.
