2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

They currently spend about 4.5% or cap on goaltending, most teams spend closer to 10% cap on goaltending. They will spend that low amount for two more years and then will likely be at the league average as they will have to sign two goalies for the 27/28 season.

They will need to sign Demidov and Kapanen to contracts in two seasons as well and they will take up all the room that Gallagher and Anderson currently take up (about 12.8% of the cap) and then probably add on a couple percentage points.

They have cap pressure coming when the the areas of the roster that they are underspending on now naturally become higher percentages of their cap spend. Add in the fact that none of the prospects they might trade will help them this year or almost certainly next year, it would make sense for them to trade for a player who will help them in those two years and is on a contract that is below market value. Just my opinion, suspect they will make a splash this year because the vast majority of teams in the NHL are actually trying to win when they get the opportunity.

It would be more accurate for me to say that they would be blowing the next two years of their window when they know they have value contracts if they did not trade for a vet like Kadri. They would be hoping that their next batch of prospects also has the outsized value that Demidov and Kapanen do and they would be hoping they fall into another situation where they were paying far below market value (like they currently are in goal). That seems unlikely to occur so to me the next two years are a better part of their window.

What about Laine's money? He hasn't played much this year and did nothing when he did play.

Demidov will get paid but probably won't be much more than Laine is getting.

I agree they have a great chance to win until Suzuki is up and then he could break they bank. But Gallagher, Anderson, Laine and Dach make over $20 mil and contribute very little. Cap going up and these players off the books, they could pay Demidov and Suzuki and keep it going.

Everyone else can be signed for a reasonable contract until they hit UFA.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

He has a 13 team no trade list. We can trade him to any of the other 18 teams.

Yes and no.

You have to work with the player with a 13 team no trade list. He could just list the top 13 teams in the league by standings and effectively have complete no trade protection.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Yes and no.

You have to work with the player with a 13 team no trade list. He could just list the top 13 teams in the league by standings and effectively have complete no trade protection.

I think there are more than the 13 teams at the top of the standings that would want Kadri. If he didn’t put Buffalo on that list you can almost guarantee they would be interested

[jmac98]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think there are more than the 13 teams at the top of the standings that would want Kadri. If he didn’t put Buffalo on that list you can almost guarantee they would be interested

Underachieving teams (Toronto) or those on the rise looking to boost (Mtl, Det, etc) are amongst strong considerable candidates as well I would think.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think there are more than the 13 teams at the top of the standings that would want Kadri. If he didn’t put Buffalo on that list you can almost guarantee they would be interested

I think the point stands ... you're likely working with the player (as they should)

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Yes and no.

You have to work with the player with a 13 team no trade list. He could just list the top 13 teams in the league by standings and effectively have complete no trade protection.

I believe in this situation Kadri already would have submitted his no trade teams. My point still stands that you trade him to one of the other 18 teams, the team with the best offer.

It's great to be super catering to your players, but this is a business. You take the best offer.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I believe in this situation Kadri already would have submitted his no trade teams. My point still stands that you trade him to one of the other 18 teams, the team with the best offer.

It's great to be super catering to your players, but this is a business. You take the best offer.

Usually that's submitted around the time of the trade, so I don't think so.

They'll work with the player, and they should.

If you limit the value of the player by forcing him out you could quickly get to a point that there's no point in dealing him.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I believe in this situation Kadri already would have submitted his no trade teams. My point still stands that you trade him to one of the other 18 teams, the team with the best offer.

It's great to be super catering to your players, but this is a business. You take the best offer.

It’s a pretty short sighted approach for a business where the players are both the main value generators and have high levels of control.

Some highly desirable markets like Vegas and New York can get away with mistreating players. Some less desirable markets need to go a bit above and beyond in their treatment of them. I get that in some people’s minds every team can and should just act like Vegas but that’s not reality for this business.

At the end of the day no winner was built on draft picks alone. You still need to be a place that isn’t on a lot of No Trade lists and UFAs want to sign with.

Being a place with a good reputation for treating people well (and not just “like it’s a business”) is such a strange thing to criticize. In every business that makes a big difference, not just this one.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think there are more than the 13 teams at the top of the standings that would want Kadri. If he didn’t put Buffalo on that list you can almost guarantee they would be interested

It’s not that simple. You need a PO bound team that is short a 2C, can fit $3.5M assuming a 50% retention, has roster and contract spots for the remainder of the contract for a guy Kadri’s age, and which has assets Calgary actually wants. That is not on his list of course. Your eligible team list is probably about 3 or 4 tops.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It’s not that simple. You need a PO bound team that is short a 2C, can fit $3.5M assuming a 50% retention, has roster and contract spots for the remainder of the contract for a guy Kadri’s age, and which has assets Calgary actually wants. That is not on his list of course. Your eligible team list is probably about 3 or 4 tops.

Also, based on the length of Kadri's contract, it's unlikely that the Flames would use up a retention spot for that many years, it would seriously handicap the team for other trades going forward. They could take a bad contract back, but there will be no salary retention on a Kadri trade.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It’s not that simple. You need a PO bound team that is short a 2C, can fit $3.5M assuming a 50% retention, has roster and contract spots for the remainder of the contract for a guy Kadri’s age, and which has assets Calgary actually wants. That is not on his list of course. Your eligible team list is probably about 3 or 4 tops.

Tell me why it needs to be a playoff bound team? There could be a team trying to get over the hump that feels Kadri moves their program forward.

All else being equal I am sure the flames would love to send Kadri to the team of his choice but I think they need to take the best deal on the table from one of the 18 teams he can’t block a trade to.

It is too bad that Kadri will not see the team succeed on the ice while he is here but he had that chance in 2019 and blocked it. End of the day it was within his rights to do so and the Flames should be making the move that is best for them within the rules they are able which is 18 teams across the league Kadri can be traded. Hopefully they are not weakening the return by going off a smaller list of preferred teams.

Is that what you and Bingo are suggesting?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Montreal makes the most sense. They basically have a 4 year window for the Cup. Have tonnes of cap space. Won’t be able to sign somebody as good as Kadri for 7 million or less on the UFA market with the cap going up and the UFA market sucking. And they don’t have anybody who would be a reliable 2nd line center for this season or probably even next season.

Teams that are in Montreal’s position usually decide to try to make a run when they have a window like that.

Their window is a lot longer than 4 years. It’s just opening now, and most teams have a 6-8 year window of contention. And I expect they’re keeping their powder dry for a run at Crosby - if not this season then next.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

They currently spend about 4.5% or cap on goaltending, most teams spend closer to 10% cap on goaltending. They will spend that low amount for two more years and then will likely be at the league average as they will have to sign two goalies for the 27/28 season.

They will need to sign Demidov and Kapanen to contracts in two seasons as well and they will take up all the room that Gallagher and Anderson currently take up (about 12.8% of the cap) and then probably add on a couple percentage points.

They have cap pressure coming when the the areas of the roster that they are underspending on now naturally become higher percentages of their cap spend. Add in the fact that none of the prospects they might trade will help them this year or almost certainly next year, it would make sense for them to trade for a player who will help them in those two years and is on a contract that is below market value. Just my opinion, suspect they will make a splash this year because the vast majority of teams in the NHL are actually trying to win when they get the opportunity.

It would be more accurate for me to say that they would be blowing the next two years of their window when they know they have value contracts if they did not trade for a vet like Kadri. They would be hoping that their next batch of prospects also has the outsized value that Demidov and Kapanen do and they would be hoping they fall into another situation where they were paying far below market value (like they currently are in goal). That seems unlikely to occur so to me the next two years are a better part of their window.

lol this is how to #### up the team wizard style


They do not need to rush for Kadri

They may get him but they are not running out of time. They just started.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Usually that's submitted around the time of the trade, so I don't think so.

They'll work with the player, and they should.

If you limit the value of the player by forcing him out you could quickly get to a point that there's no point in dealing him.

Is that right? They have to tell the player they are working on a trade with a team and then the no trade list gets submitted? I had always believed it was submitted at some point in the off season as specified in a contract.

In any case, the Flames will and should work with Kadri to at least some degree. But he doesn’t have a full no trade clause and IMO they should not treat him as if he does.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Is that right? They have to tell the player they are working on a trade with a team and then the no trade list gets submitted? I had always believed it was submitted at some point in the off season as specified in a contract.

In any case, the Flames will and should work with Kadri to at least some degree. But he doesn’t have a full no trade clause and IMO they should not treat him as if he does.

Friedman has spoken about this in the past from time to time, and I *think* (going off memory) it can differ from contract to contract in terms of how and when NTC are submitted.

There was the situation a few years ago where Berglund's agent missed filing the list, which resulted in him being traded to Buffalo.

[Monahammer]

Add for hage if you have to.

Kadri+Coleman for Hage + pick would have the flames in a really, really great position. Add in the return for Rasmus and we could be really, really happy.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Friedman has spoken about this in the past from time to time, and I *think* (going off memory) it can differ from contract to contract in terms of how and when NTC are submitted.

There was the situation a few years ago where Berglund's agent missed filing the list, which resulted in him being traded to Buffalo.

Can't remember the players, but I've certainly seen players asked for the list at the trade deadline in prior years.

[united]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Is that right? They have to tell the player they are working on a trade with a team and then the no trade list gets submitted? I had always believed it was submitted at some point in the off season as specified in a contract.

In any case, the Flames will and should work with Kadri to at least some degree. But he doesn’t have a full no trade clause and IMO they should not treat him as if he does.

100% correct. Unlike many things, submission date is not explicitly stated in the CBA so there is room for variance in all contracts, however submission is nearly always prior to the commencement of the regular season.

The only time I remember dates being set was during the COVID transition period - see Rule 7.
https://media.nhl.com/site/asset/pub...ticalDates.pdf

[Bingo]

From Puckpedia

The timing of submitting the teams on a No Trade list is negotiated in the contract, and can be at any date or any process. The most common is for it to be submitted July 1 each year, but any date can be used, or it could be required to be submitted when the team requests it.

From Daily Face Off

Depending on the language of the contract, a no-trade list is usually required to be submitted by the player before the season starts. The clause can also be worded in such a way as to compel the player to provide a list upon request in advance of the trade deadline.

[united]

Here's an itnerview with an ex-AGM. Basically, usually the date is set but not always.

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/da...eport-02-18-22
Depending on the language of the contract, a no-trade list is usually required to be submitted by the player before the season starts. The clause can also be worded in such a way as to compel the player to provide a list upon request in advance of the trade deadline.

However, in those cases, a player who wants to stay put will simply list the teams he knows will be buyers at the deadline in order to tie the team’s hands, so clearly that’s not a strategy favored by teams. This is when wording agreed upon sometimes years prior comes home to roost for one side or the other.

In a multi-year deal, the language often permits the player to submit a revised list each year at the commencement of the year. This allows the player to strategically pick teams each season if the power balance in the league shifts or personal circumstances change.

The language will sometimes state that if a player does not deliver an updated list by a specified date in each year of the contract, the list remains unchanged from the original or previous list submitted.

However, clever contract wording can also specify that if the player doesn’t deliver a new list each year, any further no-move or no-trade rights are forfeited from that point forward. That can be a disastrous omission from a player agent – and don’t think that never happens.