[News] The Athletic - NHL Owner Rankings - Murray Edwards 30th

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Odd, how you speak so absolute.

Burned returning to same city twice, is a material sample size.
Burned in Atlanta. Agreed.
Burned in Winnipeg? Debatable, I'd say no.
Burned in Denver? Absolutely not.
Burned in Ottawa? Debatable, I'd say no.

The team is a desired asset, with a new arena on the horizon and tied to a lease. Do you genuinely believe, the Flames would have trouble replacing Murray? (buying him out/finding new investors)

Ottawa LOL, let’s go on that timeline.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Source?

The lack of them buying teams?

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

You fail reading comprehension.

This seems unkind to our illiterate friend. Reading is tough.

[GioforPM]

FWIW, this story suggests that teams are becoming a more popular plaything for billionaires:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/14/coll...-art-cars.html

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The lack of them buying teams?

Now, this looks like confirmation bias. Your anecdotal experience, reinforcing your existing belief.

Like I mentioned earlier, there are techy billionaires who own franchises, of which they are the small minority, yet representative amongst owners as a whole.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Ottawa LOL, let’s go on that timeline.

Indeed, laughable and irrelevant really, and really the one that Gio likely cited as a reason why the NHL wouldn't want to move back "burned", was the most recent. There have been different Governors, and lifetimes between the others.

Does the NHL BoG, reflect back, and regret moving back to Winnipeg? Again quite doubtful.

Also, I forgot Minnesota, another success story.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Now, this looks like confirmation bias. Your anecdotal experience, reinforcing your existing belief.

Like I mentioned earlier, there are techy billionaires who own franchises, of which they are the small minority, yet representative amongst owners as a whole.

Who?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Indeed, laughable and irrelevant really, and really the one that Gio likely cited as a reason why the NHL wouldn't want to move back "burned", was the most recent. There have been different Governors, and lifetimes between the others.

Does the NHL BoG, reflect back, and regret moving back to Winnipeg? Again quite doubtful.

Also, I forgot Minnesota, another success story.

Minnie worked out. So did Colorado. Maybe Winnipeg though I bet they lose money. How long between teams was that again for those cities? Not exactly a case for Calgary getting a team back instantly.

I can't believe you are counting Ottawa. May as well count Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and St Louis. But count the cities that have lost teams and not gotten them back. There's no Quebec team and they built a rink. No Oakland team.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Who?

Man, Really? You realize you were the one who introduced the point, right? I've done my research.

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Minnie worked out. So did Colorado. Maybe Winnipeg though I bet they lose money.

Despite decline in ticket sales, the Winnipeg Jets have never lost money, True North says
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...fits-1.7171250

How long between teams was that again for those cities? Not exactly a case for Calgary getting a team back instantly.

I can't believe you are counting Ottawa. May as well count Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and St Louis. But count the cities that have lost teams and not gotten them back. There's no Quebec team and they built a rink. No Oakland team.

Ottawa is indeed funny (& irrelevant), as I've stated once before. But let's not get sidetracked from your original point...

Originally Posted by GioforPM

If Calgary lost its team to would be 10 years before another was tried. And 1.7M is the metro population, which is a lot smaller than most NHL cities - it’s the 5th smallest I think. And he NHL has been burned by going back to the same city twice.

Minny, Denver, and of course Winnipeg. Contrast with Atlanta, that was rightfully moved.


Knowing that Ottawa with a lower median income, lower commercial/investor draw, and NOW knowing that Thomson/True North are profitable, I'd be befuddled to think, that the Flames with a brand new rink, couldn't at least find a conglomerate of investors to displace Murray.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

You idiot, I'm not GioforPM. Do you even bother to check who you're replying to?

Ah hey I did get you 2 mixed up. That’s my bad. I’m not pig headed enough to have to always be right.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Maybe Frank is now a Flames fan and wants to see us succeed long term. Or he's still upset about his Oilers start to the season and is taking it out on everyone.

Seravalli is a fiercely patriotic American, and often takes the sides of American players, coaches, etc. I expect Conroy being American plays a big part of it.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Man, Really? You realize you were the one who introduced the point, right? I've done my research.



Despite decline in ticket sales, the Winnipeg Jets have never lost money, True North says
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...fits-1.7171250


Ottawa is indeed funny (& irrelevant), as I've stated once before. But let's not get sidetracked from your original point...



Minny, Denver, and of course Winnipeg. Contrast with Atlanta, that was rightfully moved.


Knowing that Ottawa with a lower median income, lower commercial/investor draw, and NOW knowing that Thomson/True North are profitable, I'd be befuddled to think, that the Flames with a brand new rink, couldn't at least find a conglomerate of investors to displace Murray.

I said it didn’t seem like tech billionaires were buying teams. you say they are. I’m prepared to be wrong about it, so who?


I never said a team wouldn’t come back to Calgary - i said it’d be 10 years. Tell me how long Winnipeg, Colorado and Minnie went before getting a second team. I’ll wait.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

You idiot, I'm not GioforPM. Do you even bother to check who you're replying to?

I think we could do without the name calling.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Seravalli is a fiercely patriotic American, and often takes the sides of American players, coaches, etc. I expect Conroy being American plays a bit part of it.

And a guy like Conroy is objectively good for a team like Calgary. Youth focused GM with a positive if not loveable demeanour, sign this guy!

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Bingo

If you're happy making ad hominem attacks when your point is weak ... fill your boots!

Won't gain you much positive discussion. Could end up with a ban.

Can do man, and like I said before, there is no positive discussion to be had with posters who don’t understand points = good. They aren’t capable of it so I’m not sure how you expect to get blood from a stone.