[News] Sportsnet interview with Maloney (2-parter)

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

The fact we still have not heard from Conny, and that no one from the Flames has come out to purposely mention anything about (as a sort of damage control), has me worried even more.

Sometimes the best damage control is to just let things settle down as opposed to trying to "fix" the original comments.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

The fact we still have not heard from Conny, and that no one from the Flames has come out to purposely mention anything about (as a sort of damage control), has me worried even more.

Why would they do damage control? Maloney is a mouth piece for ownership. Everything they said in the interview is exactly what the organization believes.

This isn't some 4D chess. Our organization is run by dinosaurs who are happy to just sneak in sometimes.

[dino7c]

If they wanted to sneak in they did a bad job this summer adding nobody despite the cap

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by 420since1974

As much as we like to hack on Buffalo for being poorly managed, the Sabres have won more play-off rounds than the Flames during that same number of years.

Buffalo deserves to get hacked on, but so does the Flames organization. I would not at all be shocked if the Flames are used as a precautionary tale for other organizations for how not to manage a team, just like Buffalo.

Avoiding the necessary trials an tribulations that nearly all contenders need to go through is just bad business. They are so fixated on the short term losses, they they lose sight of the long term gains. The Flames will likely always be the 2nd most popular NHL team in Alberta because that Gretzky era and the lore it created, but after that era the Flames were in a position to gain some ground, and likely did during the Iginla/Kipper era. But since then, it's been all Oilers taking the market share (even on a national and ratings level). We can rag on them for all their failures, but they have shown that getting elite talent through the draft is overall a good way to do business.

Within two-hours of winning the Bedard draft lottery, the Hawks sold $2.5 million in season tickets and increased their total by like 10,000 or something ridiculous like that. Fans want to see young exciting talent and know that there is hope for the future. Sure, before the Bedard draft support fell off for the Hawks, but they recouped that. I think the slow burn and trickling off of interest for a generation of fans is way worse for business in the long run.

[calumniate]

Meanwhile Treliving has dropped first rounders on carlo and laughton and Maloney is upset that Conroy doesn't have a playoff team right this second. Dude it's a 'process' hahaha. Makes no sense.. Maloney is out to lunch

[dino7c]

People still think the Oilers purposely tanked for McDavid? They sucked and won a10% lottery despite trying to make the playoffs. Under the new rules they dont get him and are 20 years into a rebuild right now.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Buffalo deserves to get hacked on, but so does the Flames organization. I would not at all be shocked if the Flames are used as a precautionary tale for other organizations for how not to manage a team, just like Buffalo.

Avoiding the necessary trials an tribulations that nearly all contenders need to go through is just bad business. They are so fixated on the short term losses, they they lose sight of the long term gains. The Flames will likely always be the 2nd most popular NHL team in Alberta because that Gretzky era and the lore it created, but after that era the Flames were in a position to gain some ground, and likely did during the Iginla/Kipper era. But since then, it's been all Oilers taking the market share (even on a national and ratings level). We can rag on them for all their failures, but they have shown that getting elite talent through the draft is overall a good way to do business.

Within two-hours of winning the Bedard draft lottery, they sold $2.5 million in season tickets and increased their total by like 10,000 or something ridiculous like that. Fans want to see young exciting talent and know that there is hope for the future. Sure, before the Bedard draft support fell off for the Hawks, but they recouped that. I think the slow burn and trickling off of interest for a generation of fans is way worse for business in the long run.

Teams will definitely use the Flames PR over the last week as am example of what not to do as an organization. We are a laughing stock I am sure, we don't even have a GM signed into next year right now. And this is the most important year for us in maybe the last decade.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dino7c

People still think the Oilers purposely tanked for McDavid? They sucked and won a10% lottery despite trying to make the playoffs. Under the new rules they dont get him and are 20 years into a rebuild right now.

It doesn't matter if it was on purpose or not. No doubt they failed up in that situation, but the outcome was good for them whether it was their intention or not.

[InternationalVillager]

I let some things slip Friday night.

I'm glad by Monday (today) that national reporters have publicly spoken on it.

Thanks Frank!

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dino7c

If they wanted to sneak in they did a bad job this summer adding nobody despite the cap

Maybe they tried but were turned down by potential free agents?

[InternationalVillager]

I'll never tire of saying MALONEY IS BALONEY!

[Mitch]

I'm late to the party but it is truly fascinating how out of touch Maloney/Ownership are with this team and fanbase. Frank is right, it's a spit in the face to the die hard fans.

Frank also makes a good point about Craig not having a contract. I would think it would be a degree more difficult to make a trade (i.e. Andersson/Kadri) when it is clear you do not have the confidence from those that would need to approve said deal.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dino7c

People still think the Oilers purposely tanked for McDavid? They sucked and won a10% lottery despite trying to make the playoffs. Under the new rules they dont get him and are 20 years into a rebuild right now.

I mean whatever, we tried to re sign all our old players and they all said no to us.

We tried to do one thing, and were forced into another. But a lot of fans still give us credit for starting a rebuild and having some great plan.

Things happen and organizations get lucky sometimes, despite their best efforts.

[VilleN]

I think DMs comments are so out of touch and really point to the ineptitude of our ownership. We need more Kadris? Aging 2nd line centers who are going to get worse over time? What is he talking about? I don't know about the rest of the fanbase, but I for one would be more than happy to watch a bottom team with young superstars on it, than an average team, with average players getting average results. I'll take legitimate hope and excitement over mediocrity any day.
I'd rather be on a 1000km long journey in the direction of the promised land, than perpetually walking circles around ####sville.

[dino7c]

Thats not what happened but we have been through it. Flames tried to trade Ras and added nothing this summer but if you want to think they are trying to sneak in and freak out about it all day go for it.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I mean whatever, we tried to re sign all our old players and they all said no to us.

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This isn't true.

Would be nice if you can make some effort to use facts.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

This isn't true.

Would be nice if you can make some effort to use facts.

Lindholm, Hanifin, Tanev all said no to us. This is a fact.

They saved us from ourselves. I give them credit for the trades after they said no, but this wasn't some master plan by ownership.

[mile]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1993019897945952470

[Psytic]

Not a fan of Edwards Ownership style but there's not many billionaires with ties to Calgary who would realistically step in and keep the team in Calgary.....its a very very short list. Basically anyone that has the capital or interest and ties.... is already a share holder.

- Its basically Jim Riddell (Paramount Resources): Who is the youngest and has the capital to be majority owner but he's already part of the ownership group so would anything change?

- Alvin Libin (Balmon) & Allan Markin (CNRL): They are original owners. They have the money to increase their stake but are older I think its less likely they buy 100% control.

- The Mannix Family (Coril Holdings) : Doesn't seem like any interest in the team and very private

- The Southern Family (ATCO): They only care about Spruce Meadows (horses), not hockey. Doesn't seem like they have an interest

- The McCaigs (Trimac): Not sure if they have the capital to be a majority owner would likely continue as a minority holder.

The current group has the first right to purchase so the shares probably just get bought up by the current group. So unless they have a completely different view than Murray, it kind of is what it is really.

[Ryan Coke]

Someone should do up some type of letter or petition or something that fans can put their name to expressing the dissatisfaction with the pronounced direction and wanting Conroy to get an extension. Something to articulate how poorly the DM interview went and how out of touch it is.

Ultimately the organization needs it fans, and if it gets they aren’t happy then that may have some influence.

I don’t have the time or ambition, but I’d happily sign it.