[News] Flames claim Beecher off waivers

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

He was just called up a few days ago so you should definitely be able to find some of those posts.

Speaking for myself, I am generally going to be more excited about a promotion from within than a waiver claim.

I'm talking about when he was called up last season. Because supposedly people have been following him for a long time.

[Enoch Root]

'offensive dynamo in college', 'former top line player', 'former 1st round pick'... LOL

Tanner Pearson '20 goal scorer' - yeah, 7 years ago

we can make the same arguments with the Flames:

Beecher - 1st round pick
Zary - 1st round pick, 23 goal pace in prior 2 years
Sharangovich - 30 goal scorer

all guys who have been on the 4th line this year. Coronato too.

gvitaly: I think it's possible to develop young guys on the 4th line too, and every team does it, including the Flames. But NO TEAM does it with all 3 spots, or all the time.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I'm talking about when he was called up last season. Because supposedly people have been following him for a long time.

I'm sure some people wanted someone else called up. Maybe they got more interested in Morton as he had a good start with the Wranglers and at his age, the clock is obviously ticking.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I'm sure some people wanted someone else called up. Maybe they got more interested in Morton as he had a good start with the Wranglers and at his age, the clock is obviously ticking.

I've seen zero posts about Morton before this year, except from when he was initially signed (which was only in 2024 - it's not like he's been a trooper drafted 7 years ago who is finally getting his shot).

But now people are concerned because a younger, bigger and faster player has been acquired for free that will compete with Morton?

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

'offensive dynamo in college', 'former top line player', 'former 1st round pick'... LOL

Tanner Pearson '20 goal scorer' - yeah, 7 years ago

we can make the same arguments with the Flames:

Beecher - 1st round pick
Zary - 1st round pick, 23 goal pace in prior 2 years
Sharangovich - 30 goal scorer

all guys who have been on the 4th line this year. Coronato too.

gvitaly: I think it's possible to develop young guys on the 4th line too, and every team does it, including the Flames. But NO TEAM does it with all 3 spots, or all the time.

Be honest, our 4th line has been lomberg-kirkland/hunt-klapka 90% of the season.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Be honest, our 4th line has been lomberg-kirkland/hunt-klapka 90% of the season.

Which is why Conroy grabbed Beecher, which, if you'll recall, is the topic of discussion.

I think a line of Pospisil - Beecher - Klapka is an above average 4th line.

[dissentowner]

I will have to see more of him but except for the linesman getting in the way of his check along the boards he was pretty invisible. New team though so we will see.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Which is why Conroy grabbed Beecher, which, if you'll recall, is the topic of discussion.

I think a line of Pospisil - Beecher - Klapka is an above average 4th line.

It would almost certainly perform worse than every single one of the 4th lines I posted, in basically every statistical category except maybe face-off wins. And then only middle of the road in that category.

It would be maybe better than the leafs 4th line. Definitely better than the oilers 4th line though.

[Goriders]

Flames seem to uber focus on optimizing the 3rd and 4th lines and bottom pairing D when the big problem on the team is the top 2 lines. I get they are trying to develop internally. But what are they planning to do once they get to their planned window and the top 2 lines are still 3rd lines.

That window probably isn’t 4-5 years away with the new arena opening.

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Be honest, our 4th line has been lomberg-kirkland/hunt-klapka 90% of the season.

Hunt hasn't played a single game.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Flames seem to uber focus on optimizing the 3rd and 4th lines and bottom pairing D when the big problem on the team is the top 2 lines.

No, it's fans who ‘uber focus on optimizing the 3rd and 4th lines’. CP has got its collective knickers in a twist over the burning question of whether the 4th-line centre should be Kirkland, Morton, Beecher, or Kerins.

Of course the big problem is on the top 2 lines. That's because the team has very little talent that belongs on those lines, but they have to put someone there. If you look at the line usage charts in the game day threads, you'll see entire lines bouncing around from 1st to 3rd in usage from day to day – because no line is the defined #1 or #2.

[stemit14]

I do wonder what happens when this team gets fully healthy if Beacher and Morton both end up fitting in on the fourth line. Posposil and Honzek would make things even more crowded.

[Toonage]

I have heard nothing but I honestly don't expect Pospisil back until the new year if at all.

[Flamesfan05]

The only legit top 6 are Kadri and Huberdeau and they are stuck with them, the only young player that can solidify that role is Coronato

On the bottom 6, they are waiting for someone to stand out and grab them but honestly nobody has, so the musical chair continues

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

Hunt hasn't played a single game.

On CP there is no Mandela effect. It's the Hunt effect.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

On CP there is no Mandela effect. It's the Hunt effect.

But he did play a bunch of games two years ago and the memory… it haunts them…

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

But he did play a bunch of games two years ago and the memory… it haunts them…

The funny part about even that year was that he played 28 or so games but younger forwards Coronato, Zary, Pospisil, Sharangovich, Ruzicka, Greer, all played more (and Pelletier would have but he got hurt).

The only Wranglers who got "snubbed" by Hunt's call up were (maybe) Klapka Kerins and Schwindt and Hunt out pointed them by a lot in the A. Hunt, Zary and Coronato were the only PPG Wranglers that year.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

The only legit top 6 are Kadri and Huberdeau and they are stuck with them, the only young player that can solidify that role is Coronato

On the bottom 6, they are waiting for someone to stand out and grab them but honestly nobody has, so the musical chair continues

Stuck with Kadri?

Have you been living under a rock?

[442scotty]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I have heard nothing but I honestly don't expect Pospisil back until the new year if at all.

Maybe he can do what Sidney Crosby did. Take a year off to give the concussion stuff a chance to heal then come back!

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Flames seem to uber focus on optimizing the 3rd and 4th lines and bottom pairing D when the big problem on the team is the top 2 lines. I get they are trying to develop internally. But what are they planning to do once they get to their planned window and the top 2 lines are still 3rd lines.

That window probably isn’t 4-5 years away with the new arena opening.

No one is offering up top line players on waivers. So I guess that’s one reason Flames haven’t claimed any. Haha

We still have not drafted those types players, or if we have it’s too early to slot them in.

Flames are picking up low cost guys to fill roles they don’t think they have players for. It’s easy to tweak the bottom end while Flames chase bigger trades. This means they think some of the Wranglers project higher than that. Isn’t that a good thing?

When vets are gone, we’ll want to have some guys with at least a little bit of experience.

Wait until the trades happen (or don’t happen) before getting too upset.

In the meantime there are plenty of bad coaching decisions to bitch about.