[News] Flames claim Beecher off waivers

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by CFO

Waste of a pickup and roster spot.

This is a giant FU to younger on cusp players.

Disagree.

What it tells us is that we have zero center depth as i have said repeatedly.
Also seen a few mention more of the same? Huh? We dont have centers nevermind centers that are big because big equals good, that skate well and are better than 50% on face offs ?

Morton is not an nhl player, he is two years older than our acquisition.
Kerins is not an nhl player especially not bottom pairing.
Kirkland at the end of the day is not name brand.
Taco King probably a year in the A ( i had secret hopes he would make it)

Our fourth line has been a revolving door for years having a big smooth skating center who is good at face offs, and may still have a little more scoring potential as he is just entering his prime, was exactly what the doctor ordered. This was had for exactly zero dollars.

Smart move CC.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Sam Morton has a 55.5% faceoff percentage in the A and actually has skill. Again, for a team that can't score why are we bringing in another offensive black hole? Penalty kill? We have more than enough guys that are good on the PK. I just don't see the point here.

The undrafted, 26 year old Sam Morton that was never a point per game in the NCAA, even as a 23 year old, and who put up 45 pts in 70 games in the AHL as a 25 year old?

That Sam Morton?

We're talking about role players here, not guys that might be in the top 6 one day.

[Enoch Root]

The one player I feel sad for is Taco Jr.

But so far, he appears not to be ready anyway. When he is, he now has to pass Beecher instead of Kirkland. And frankly, if he can't, then he isn't an NHLer.

[mile]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1990917463848943711

Would be fun to see these two on a line one day

[Enoch Root]

Remember when people were mad that Huska played Zary at 4th line C?

So Conroy goes out and gets one, and people are outraged. I just don't get it - who else do you want at 4C? Morton? Sure. What's the difference?

[Jiri Hrdina]

What are we looking at there? What do all those numbers mean? Which are Beecher's and which are Pospisils?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

What are we looking at there? What do all those numbers mean? Which are Beecher's and which are Pospisils?

click on it to open it up, and it will make more sense

Coles notes: Beecher is fast

Him and Pospisil on the 4th line might be really interesting

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Remember when people were mad that Huska played Zary at 4th line C?

So Conroy goes out and gets one, and people are outraged. I just don't get it - who else do you want at 4C? Morton? Sure. What's the difference?

There is no difference. This is a nothing move. They need someone who can win faceoffs and get a free look at the guy. If they don't like what they see he goes back on waivers.
Literally any reaction to this is an over-reaction.

[mile]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

What are we looking at there? What do all those numbers mean? Which are Beecher's and which are Pospisils?

Have to click the picture to see the entire image

Beecher’s numbers are on the left. Shows that last season he had more speed bursts per 60 than Pospisil, though Pospisil had a higher recorded top-end speed

[FlamesNightmare]

I guess we needed a centre-man. Not the one I expected though! Hahaha

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

click on it to open it up, and it will make more sense

Coles notes: Beecher is fast

Him and Pospisil on the 4th line might be really interesting

Makes a little more sense but not entirelly.
So Beecher's max speed is 22.81 and Pospisil's is 24.06.
So that means he's slower than Posp, but not sure how it compares with other NHLers.

But what do the 1.22/0.64, 10.9/8.9 and 31.97/25.58 all mean?

Oh I think I get it, so Beecher averages 1.22 speed burst of 22+ MPH per 60, where as Posp averages 0.64 speed burst of 22+ MPH per 60.

So yeah it seems to suggest that Posp has a higher top gear, but Beecher is skating faster, more often, per 60.

[Jay Random]

That's right, Jiri. Pospisil has a higher top-end speed, but Beecher uses his speed more times per game. Both are useful attributes to have.

On a team that doesn't play with pace, Huska can now point at Beecher on the ice and say, ‘You want more minutes? Move your legs like he does. You don't have to be as fast as he is, but you have to be as fast as you can be.’

[Enoch Root]

Top end speed is nice, but isn't the be all end all - acceleration is also important. Also, how much of the time are you playing at high speed?

Those stats show that Beecher has a lot of high speed bursts, which says he plays the game at a high tempo and high speed.

[Burning Beard]

Amazing the complaining about a rebuilding team trying a freebie guy off waivers.

He is big and fast and if he doesn't work out who cares? I'd have to stretch super hard to find something to complain about this.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

That's right, Jiri. Pospisil has a higher top-end speed, but Beecher uses his speed more times per game. Both are useful attributes to have.

On a team that doesn't play with pace, Huska can now point at Beecher on the ice and say, ‘You want more minutes? Move your legs like he does. You don't have to be as fast as he is, but you have to be as fast as you can be.’

There are a few Flames who could follow this..but one can (sort of) understand in a season like this why they might not. Motivation is lacking in too many (young or old) too often.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Amazing the complaining about a rebuilding team trying a freebie guy off waivers.

And a young one too. You would think the guy is 30.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by blankall

As much as moving out Kadri, Coleman and Andersson is great for the future, it also means giving those guys a much bigger role in the present....not fun hockey to watch.

I must be a bad fan, but I'm actually really enjoying this season so far. Especially with seeing Parekh, Kuznetsov, Honzek, Kerins, and Gridin making things happen in the NHL. Wolf is still a lot of fun to watch, and Coronato is coming around. Cooley was also a fun surprise.

I don't think this team will lose many more games by replacing Kadri with Zary, Coleman with Stromgren/Pospisil, and Andresson with Brzustewicz. I mean, is there really that much of a difference between 3Ws in 20GP, and 5Ws in 20GP?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Amazing the complaining about a rebuilding team trying a freebie guy off waivers.

In this day and age of 2025 we're going to bitch and whine about everything! Because we want success and we want it now!! Also we dont want to have to work or suffer for it!!

Now...are we sharpening the pitchforks or what??

[mile]

Really wanna see a Pospisil - Beecher - Klapka line now

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Disagree.

What it tells us is that we have zero center depth as i have said repeatedly.
Also seen a few mention more of the same? Huh? We dont have centers nevermind centers that are big because big equals good, that skate well and are better than 50% on face offs ?

Morton is not an nhl player, he is two years older than our acquisition.
Kerins is not an nhl player especially not bottom pairing.
Kirkland at the end of the day is not name brand.
Taco King probably a year in the A ( i had secret hopes he would make it)

Our fourth line has been a revolving door for years having a big smooth skating center who is good at face offs, and may still have a little more scoring potential as he is just entering his prime, was exactly what the doctor ordered. This was had for exactly zero dollars.

Smart move CC.

By his statistics Beecher is not an NHL player either. He has been a minus player every year he has played. If the doctor ordered another forward that can't score and bleeds goals I guess we got it.