2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by BigThief

What's the Murray Treliving Drama?

Treliving quit on the team when they offered him an extension (likely because he knew he was getting the Toronto gig). There were rumors the flame wouldn’t let Treliving talk to the Pens earlier in the process. The Flames ultimately let him go to the Leafs a couple weeks before his contract expired but would not allow him to sit at the draft table until after the Flames made their first round pick.

It seemed like some bitterness but nothing officially confirmed. Assume Royle has a more legit scoop

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Flames need to take advantage of how tight the Eastern Conference is this year.

Only Buffalo is below .500 and that's mostly because they've been ravaged by injury.

Leafs are right at .500 but will be desperate to get back into the playoff picture.

And then you have the other 14 teams in the conference all at a .531 points percentage or better, and it's like 5 points separating 2nd and 14th in the conference.



Unless the pick is the 2029 1st it's going to be convoluted.

The 2028 1st is already tied into the conditions on the 2026 (top 5 protected) and 2027 (top 10 protected) they've traded away.

The Leafs can still trade the 1st in 28, those 2 1sts would just become unprotected 1sts.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I think Kniess for Rasmus would be an overpay - he's that good. But it really doesn't make sense for the Leafs anyway. They shore up thier D and gut their top line.

It is, which is the point everyone including Dredger is trying to make.
If the leafs want Andersson as badly as they seem to do, then they're going to have to overpay or it wont happen.

Which again, is why I don't think the two teams make sense as trade partners myself.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Treliving quit on the team when they offered him an extension (likely because he knew he was getting the Toronto gig). There were rumors the flame wouldn’t let Treliving talk to the Pens earlier in the process. The Flames ultimately let him go to the Leafs a couple weeks before his contract expired but would not allow him to sit at the draft table until after the Flames made their first round pick.

It seemed like some bitterness but nothing officially confirmed. Assume Royle has a more legit scoop

Oooo Murray Edwards? Ok got it

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

It took two years for Connie to get out of the mess Treliving put them in, plus he Tre didn't help with the weak prospect pool trading away all those picks over the years.

I'd say it's really short sighted not to extend Conroy at this point. When management hired him, they should have known there's going to be growing pains over the next few seasons, and I assume they were committed to his vision. To cut Connie off midway through his rebuild is not a smartway to operate IMO.

How long did you expect it to take?

Weak prospect pool? Could there have been more, sure, I guess. There probably could have been less. These complaints don’t mean anything. If your point is the Flames had no good prospects (they did btw) then what were they sacrificing in their place? Should the Flames have sat back and not traded for Toffoli (as an example)? Should they have traded Tkachuck, Gaudreau, Bennett, Monahan, Giordano, Brodie etc and not tried to win? Just stay in a perpetual state of rebuild for ……?

Not sure what the concern is on your second paragraph. Nothing to see here. I’d de surprised and disappointed if Conroy isn’t extended and I don’t see any reason why he wouldn’t be. I think the concern being raised recently is just empty chatter with not much else to discuss right now.

Treliving was trying to put a competitive team on the ice and at certain points, he did.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Treliving quit on the team when they offered him an extension (likely because he knew he was getting the Toronto gig). There were rumors the flame wouldn’t let Treliving talk to the Pens earlier in the process. The Flames ultimately let him go to the Leafs a couple weeks before his contract expired but would not allow him to sit at the draft table until after the Flames made their first round pick.

It seemed like some bitterness but nothing officially confirmed. Assume Royle has a more legit scoop

Treliving was reckless with the Flames in his final year...he obviously knew he wouldn't have to clean up any mess so he went all in knowing he had the Leafs deal lined up.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

You can ask, but there is zero chance you are getting Knies.

20 points in 17 games, signed for a reasonable number for 6 years.

Yeah Knies is a big reason they let Marner walk. He’s arguably as valuable as Matthews is to them right now. No chance he’s involved.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Treliving was reckless with the Flames in his final year...he obviously knew he wouldn't have to clean up any mess so he went all in knowing he had the Leafs deal lined up.

How so?

I must be missing something.

After moving Monahan to sign Kadri and having many excited about his amazing summer he made three more trades before leaving.

A nobody in for futures
Dryden Hunt for Zahorna
And the crazy Ritchie brothers deal

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

The Leafs can still trade the 1st in 28, those 2 1sts would just become unprotected 1sts.

Sure but I doubt they'd want to do that and leave two picks unprotected.

So it would likely have to have conditions on it. One condition being that if the 2028 pick transfers to Boston or Philadelphia then the pick the Flames receive would be the 2029 1st. And also that if the 2028 pick remains in Toronto's hands it would need to be top 5 or top 10 protected and then shift to a 2029 unprotected 1st.

They would make it have convoluted rules that could push it to 2029 for sure.

He's not going to trade the 2028 1st unprotected, which also triggers the 2026 and 2027 pick becoming unprotected.

[activeStick]

My boys out here are thinking it would be a deal around Cowan and a 1st for Ras. Apparently, Cowan was also scratched last night with the Marlies?

I'm a big Ras fan though and would prefer he extends with the Flames, but would be happy with a Cowan and a 1st return.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by activeStick

My boys out here are thinking it would be a deal around Cowan and a 1st for Ras. Apparently, Cowan was also scratched last night with the Marlies?

I'm a big Ras fan though and would prefer he extends with the Flames, but would be happy with a Cowan and a 1st return.

Me too. Plus a sweetener(s) if the Leafs need to unload some salary and/or get 50% retention on Andersson.

[traptor]

Rasmus 50% retained for Jarnkrok (dump) + 1st + Cowan?


With the Kampf termination they can squeeze it in.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by TOfan

How long did you expect it to take?

Weak prospect pool? Could there have been more, sure, I guess. There probably could have been less. These complaints don’t mean anything. If your point is the Flames had no good prospects (they did btw) then what were they sacrificing in their place? Should the Flames have sat back and not traded for Toffoli (as an example)? Should they have traded Tkachuck, Gaudreau, Bennett, Monahan, Giordano, Brodie etc and not tried to win? Just stay in a perpetual state of rebuild for ……?

Not sure what the concern is on your second paragraph. Nothing to see here. I’d de surprised and disappointed if Conroy isn’t extended and I don’t see any reason why he wouldn’t be. I think the concern being raised recently is just empty chatter with not much else to discuss right now.

Treliving was trying to put a competitive team on the ice and at certain points, he did.

This is fair, I don’t think Treliving is a very good GM but he came in and said I have a plan to build a winner. Part of the plan was trading away picks to make that happen. Ownership signed off on the plan.

Conroy came in and said he had a plan for a rebuild, sell off assets for picks and prospects. Ownership signed off on the plan and it is happening. Two different plans, two different sign offs. Nice thing for the Flames is ownership lets the GM state the plan and then execute the plan.

[Vinny01]

Cowan+1st for Andersson is more than we got for Hanifin or Tanev so I am not so sure that Conroy will get that much? If offered he likely should take it even if he has to retain 50%.

[dammage79]

I just don't like Easton Cowan.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by TOfan

How long did you expect it to take?

Weak prospect pool? Could there have been more, sure, I guess. There probably could have been less. These complaints don’t mean anything. If your point is the Flames had no good prospects (they did btw) then what were they sacrificing in their place? Should the Flames have sat back and not traded for Toffoli (as an example)? Should they have traded Tkachuck, Gaudreau, Bennett, Monahan, Giordano, Brodie etc and not tried to win? Just stay in a perpetual state of rebuild for ……?

Not sure what the concern is on your second paragraph. Nothing to see here. I’d de surprised and disappointed if Conroy isn’t extended and I don’t see any reason why he wouldn’t be. I think the concern being raised recently is just empty chatter with not much else to discuss right now.

Treliving was trying to put a competitive team on the ice and at certain points, he did.

I'd expect it to take more than 2 years. Last year as an anomaly as the team remained competitive despite Conroy gutting a big core of the team the previous year, so it stalled the rebuild. I think now that Flames have hit rock bottom, Conroy proceeds with his rebuild plan.

Honestly, for a rebuild like this, I think it'll take 5 years before Flames are competitive. Right now, I'd say we're in year 2.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I just don't like Easton Cowan.

More of what we have in undersized bottom 6 forwards.
He certainly doesn’t move our needle at all.

Far more appetizing forward prospects on other teams that would likely take a run at Rasmus.

[HitterD]

Originally Posted by Royle9

More of what we have in undersized bottom 6 forwards.
He certainly doesn’t move our needle at all.

Far more appetizing forward prospects on other teams that would likely take a run at Rasmus.

If the rumour is true that the Leafs are making a strong push for Andersson now (big if though and you would know better than I), then it might be put up or shut up time for the other teams that have been sitting on their hands since the summer waiting for Conroy to lower his ask.

[D as in David]

I don't know much about Cowan but he sure seemed to excel in his last two playoffs series in the OHL where he scored at a 2.08pts/game over those two playoffs. The highest scorer on his team both times, as well.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Bingo

How so?

I must be missing something.

After moving Monahan to sign Kadri and having many excited about his amazing summer he made three more trades before leaving.

A nobody in for futures
Dryden Hunt for Zahorna
And the crazy Ritchie brothers deal

The Kadri trade/signing and the Huberdeau deal itself were the last ditch attempt to hit and run

Anyway, the Flames is the front runner for McKenna, big thanks to the wizard