11-13-2025, 02:10 PM
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#12401
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For what its worth, when Dredger was asked about the Rosehill tweet he's said essentially the same as we are:
"What does Toronto have now that they didnt have in the summer when Treliving wanted Andersson" and goes on to say:
They dont have much
Danford is okay
Cowan is just okay
2028 1st rounder
Cupboard is really bare
Then said, if I'm Craig I'm asking for Matthew Knies, if your Toronto you have to ensure a contract extension is part of it.
Needs to be a GOOD, YOUNG, LEGIT player if you're trading Rasmus Andersson.
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11-13-2025, 02:14 PM
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#12402
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the best asset the Leafs have is an unprotected 1st in 2028. They are an old ass team already with signs of a decline, and not much in the prospect pipeline. By 2028 they are a lottery team. Get as many lottery balls in the Schultz/Pue draft
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11-13-2025, 02:16 PM
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#12403
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1st would be protected, and it would have all kinds of crazy clauses
Matthew Knies or F off
There are teams with better than a first that won't play for years
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11-13-2025, 02:18 PM
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#12404
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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So are we talking a 2nd + Cowan +?
They don't have a 1st for a while.
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11-13-2025, 02:19 PM
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#12405
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First Line Centre
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Devil's advocate here.
What package would you take?
The rumoured Nic Hague + 2027 First from VGK?
Easton + leafs 1st 2028?
I would go with Easton + 2028 first personally
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11-13-2025, 02:20 PM
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#12406
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
For what its worth, when Dredger was asked about the Rosehill tweet he's said essentially the same as we are:
"What does Toronto have now that they didnt have in the summer when Treliving wanted Andersson" and goes on to say:
They dont have much
Danford is okay
Cowan is just okay
2028 1st rounder
Cupboard is really bare
Then said, if I'm Craig I'm asking for Matthew Knies, if your Toronto you have to ensure a contract extension is part of it.
Needs to be a GOOD, YOUNG, LEGIT player if you're trading Rasmus Andersson.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
1st would be protected, and it would have all kinds of crazy clauses
Matthew Knies or F off
There are teams with better than a first that won't play for years
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I think Kniess for Rasmus would be an overpay - he's that good. But it really doesn't make sense for the Leafs anyway. They shore up thier D and gut their top line.
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11-13-2025, 02:23 PM
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#12407
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#1 Goaltender
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Cowan
2028 top 5 protected
Carlo (or other cap dump?)
Ras 50% retained + extension in place
Flames can then look to flip Carlo at the deadline for some mid round picks
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11-13-2025, 02:25 PM
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#12408
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by DJones
He sold all of the Trelivings guys for futures and is stuck with the rest that are on borderline immovable contracts.
What exactly do you want him to do? Sharangovich is really the only miss so far for Conroy. Andersson, Kadri, and Coleman will all be moved but there's really no rush if the returns aren't there.
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Who is unmovable aside from Huberdeau? Andersson, Kadri, Weegar (especially), and Coleman’s deal are just fine and maybe even desirable. Conroy should be able to do just fine in these trades, if that’s what he wants to do.
What do I want him to do? Nothing other than what he’s done and is continuing to do. I think you’re misunderstanding where I’m coming from. It’s not a Treliving vs Conroy point I’m making.
My point is two fold:
1) blaming Treliving is lame (doesn’t matter. It’s history no matter how someone might feel about it). Move on, folks.
2) Conroy actually inherited a pretty good situation and the way the first 2.5 years have gone shouldn’t be a surprise or a source of complaint. I would add that, I think, Conroy’s plan is probably playing out pretty closely to what they wanted.
It’s like, tell me you want to rebuild without saying you want to rebuild. Proofs in the pudding. Last place. 4 first round picks in the last two drafts, two more in the one coming up and I’ll bet we’ll have another 2 or 3 first round picks (between the next two drafts).
Last edited by TOfan; 11-13-2025 at 02:33 PM.
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11-13-2025, 02:27 PM
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#12409
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I think Kniess for Rasmus would be an overpay - he's that good. But it really doesn't make sense for the Leafs anyway. They shore up thier D and gut their top line.
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They can either overpay or not get him...there are a lot of teams in the market. I mean Brad is probably going to lose his job if they miss the playoffs and its not looking good.
Like why do the Flames have to take meh prospect or a first in 3 years because that is all they have? too bad Bradley, shouldn't have blown all your picks.
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Last edited by dino7c; 11-13-2025 at 02:30 PM.
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11-13-2025, 02:31 PM
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#12410
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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I keep going back to the reported Vegas deal. 2027 1st and Hague.
Leafs 2028 1st and Carlo feels awfully similar. Even if it’s a RHD rather than LHD.
Just no ridiculously convoluted conditions please.
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11-13-2025, 02:33 PM
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#12411
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Flames need to take advantage of how tight the Eastern Conference is this year.
Only Buffalo is below .500 and that's mostly because they've been ravaged by injury.
Leafs are right at .500 but will be desperate to get back into the playoff picture.
And then you have the other 14 teams in the conference all at a .531 points percentage or better, and it's like 5 points separating 2nd and 14th in the conference.
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Originally Posted by Toonage
I keep going back to the reported Vegas deal. 2027 1st and Hague.
Leafs 2028 1st and Carlo feels awfully similar. Even if it’s a RHD rather than LHD.
Just no ridiculously convoluted conditions please.
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Unless the pick is the 2029 1st it's going to be convoluted.
The 2028 1st is already tied into the conditions on the 2026 (top 5 protected) and 2027 (top 10 protected) they've traded away.
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11-13-2025, 02:34 PM
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#12412
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
They can either overpay or not get him...there are a lot of teams in the market. I mean Brad is probably going to lose his job if they miss the playoffs and its not looking good.
Like why do the Flames have to take meh prospect or a first in 3 years because that is all they have? too bad Bradley, shouldn't have blown all your picks.
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No one says they have to. This is why it won't happen. If they miss the POs without Rasmus they probably also miss it without their third leading scorer, absent another move (for which they would still lack assets).
If they'd kept Marner they could move Kniess.
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11-13-2025, 02:36 PM
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#12413
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Draft Pick
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What if Calgary throws Kadri into the mix as well.
Kadri + Andersson (extension in place)
For
Knies + Cowan + Cap Dump
Add in picks to make it work with the money?
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11-13-2025, 02:38 PM
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#12414
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I think Kniess for Rasmus would be an overpay - he's that good. But it really doesn't make sense for the Leafs anyway. They shore up thier D and gut their top line.
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Not going to get Knies for Andersson but I would take their 2028 1st round pick unprotected. It's trending to be a high pick.
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11-13-2025, 02:40 PM
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#12415
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
We aren't getting an A+ prospect and a 1st for Andersson. Even if the first is delayed.
Honestly I would be stoked with an unprotected 2028 1st. Throwing in a C+ or B prospect would soften the blow of the 1st coming with many conditions.
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There is a wealth of difference between an A+ prospect and that guy
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11-13-2025, 02:41 PM
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#12416
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
For what its worth, when Dredger was asked about the Rosehill tweet he's said essentially the same as we are:
"What does Toronto have now that they didnt have in the summer when Treliving wanted Andersson" and goes on to say:
They dont have much
Danford is okay
Cowan is just okay
2028 1st rounder
Cupboard is really bare
Then said, if I'm Craig I'm asking for Matthew Knies, if your Toronto you have to ensure a contract extension is part of it.
Needs to be a GOOD, YOUNG, LEGIT player if you're trading Rasmus Andersson.
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You can ask, but there is zero chance you are getting Knies.
20 points in 17 games, signed for a reasonable number for 6 years.
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11-13-2025, 02:42 PM
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#12417
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
You can ask, but there is zero chance you are getting Knies.
20 points in 17 games, signed for a reasonable number for 6 years.
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And their only real player under 25.
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11-13-2025, 02:43 PM
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#12418
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Yeah Knies isn't getting moved for a pending UFA Andersson - that's crazy talk. Even if Andersson had 4 more years at his current cap hit you're probably not getting Knies.
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11-13-2025, 02:45 PM
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#12419
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
Toronto just isn’t a good trading partner to for rebuilding teams.
Add in the Murray vs Treliving drama and I just don’t see it happening.
Would cost double for CGY to trade with TOR
Not to mention there’s more teams interested that have far more to offer.
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What's the Murray Treliving Drama?
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11-13-2025, 02:47 PM
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#12420
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bert
What if Calgary throws Kadri into the mix as well.
Kadri + Andersson (extension in place)
For
Knies + Cowan + Cap Dump
Add in picks to make it work with the money?
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We can stop talking about Knies. He is recently 23 and had 29 goals and 58pts last year and 20pts in 17 games this year recently signed to a 8 year deal under $8M per.
Leafs just do not have the realistic chips for a Kadri deal. Andersson can be worked out but I just don’t see it with Kadri.
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