Israel declares war on Hamas

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I'm at a complete loss as to why this matters. Can you explain the importance of the question?

To deflect from answering whether or not he finds Israel's mass murder of civilians repulsive and evil.

Too cowardly to acknowledge his own self.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Bagor

To deflect from answering whether or not he finds Israel's mass murder of civilians repulsive and evil.

Too cowardly to acknowledge his own self.

Offers an opinion. Is asked questions and given counter points. Gives a vague non-answer and immediately starts sealioning about something else while mentioning how much he’s laughing.

Every single time. And apparently a grown man lol.

[Bagor]

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and speculate that it's a self defence mechanism to protect himself from having to look at himself.

I mean imagine having to acknowledge that you're perfectly ok with the mass murder of children.

[ThePrince]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I'm at a complete loss as to why this matters. Can you explain the importance of the question?

It makes zero sense whatsoever.

Let’s just take his argument to the extreme and say it’s correct that the UN isn’t counting every single piece of aid going into Gaza. Why is that relevant in any way when Israel has absolute control over all of that aid, where and how it’s distributed?

It doesn’t matter how much aid is going into Gaza. It matters how much is actually being properly distributed to Gazans without them getting murdered by the IDF trying to get it.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Bagor

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and speculate that it's a self defence mechanism to protect himself from having to look at himself.

I mean imagine having to acknowledge that you're perfectly ok with the mass murder of children.

It's either that or just unable to accept his brain is approaching the smoothness of the reference kilogram sphere.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by ThePrince

It makes zero sense whatsoever.

Let’s just take his argument to the extreme and say it’s correct that the UN isn’t counting every single piece of aid going into Gaza. Why is that relevant in any way when Israel has absolute control over all of that aid, where and how it’s distributed?

It doesn’t matter how much aid is going into Gaza. It matters how much is actually being properly distributed to Gazans without them getting murdered by the IDF trying to get it.

Ultimately the only thing that matters is if the people of Gaza were being driven to starvation by the blockade policies of Israel, which is why there is such a strong consensus. It's a fairly easy thing to show.

Like, I can go on the internet myself, find out what their policies were, see no shortage of evidence and testimonials from medical professionals and aid organizations, and decide for myself that, ya, that's ####ing duck alright. It's maybe not as simple as looking outside and observing the sky is blue, but it's pretty damn close.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Ultimately the only thing that matters is if the people of Gaza were being driven to starvation by the blockade policies of Israel, which is why there is such a strong consensus. It's a fairly easy thing to show. .

[Doctorfever]

Sorry fellas. Missed a few messages. Was out volunteering.

The whole point I was trying to make is that the UN did not count all the aid that was entering Gaza. They based all their forecasts and projections only on the aid that they were counting. Basically the UN has stated that famine was imminent, and that tens of thousands of people would die from starvation. That never happened because the UN was not counting all the aid that entered Gaza.

The UN spreading misinformation is not helping the situation. All the reporting the UN has done on this conflict isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.

It’s definitely a fact that there was, and probably still is people suffering in Gaza. As unfortunate as it is, this does happen during these types of conflicts.

Hope this helps.

[Fuzz]

Where are your facts and links for any of this? you are just making assumptions to prove a point. That's not what assumptions do.

And who cares what they said might happen with deaths and food insecurity about possible futures?

All you've done is give yourself comfort in ignoring the REALITY ON THE GROUND that there is famine, starvation, death and suffering unnecessarily inflicted by Israel. That is a FACT, not an assumption, proven by the years of evidence everyone has shown you here that you refuse to acknowledge, because you have vague theories floating around your cranium.

Maybe take a look in a mirror and ask yourself why you are trying so hard to justify your position of dismissal of atrocities. What broke you?

[Fuzz]

At least take whatever time it takes you to read the fataing wiki


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip_famine


At some point, maybe it'll become real for you.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Maybe take a look in a mirror and ask yourself why you are trying so hard to justify your position of dismissal of atrocities. What broke you?

You have to stop giving him even enough credit to suggest something “broke” him or that you’re compelling him to open his mind or whatever. The guy lies about volunteering whenever he gets too far into his trolling attempts. He started this exchange citing some dude blaming starving Gazans on Hamas since the UN numbers were too high for starvation and at some point switched back to say there was no starvation because UN’s numbers were too low.

Psychologists have done plenty of studies on people who spend the majority of their online time trolling and the findings are pretty sad in terms of what life is like for them day to day.

[Wormius]

Maybe not feeding the troll in the first place would help. The novelty has kind of worn off on this one.

[Fuzz]

Ideally the troll would be banned or some time in the sin-bin and we'd avoid all of this.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Ideally the troll would be banned or some time in the sin-bin and we'd avoid all of this.

Or put on ignore. I don’t think anyone is getting any value out of correcting or trying to engage them.

[Fuzz]

Not true, I learned about what the smoothest object every created was while trying to find a comparison for his brain. That's value!

[Doctorfever]

Fellas, why so angry? Try google!

The UN did not count all aid that entered Gaza. Everyone who bases their numbers on anything the UN publishes is not accurate. Period.

If there are 100 marbles in a box, but you only counted 50 of them going into the box, that doesn’t mean there are 50 marbles in the box. That means you don’t count all the marbles going into the box.

The bigger question, since the UN has not been counting all aid entering Gaza, how can they claim there is a famine. It’s misinformation.

Edit;
Here is what came up.

No, the United Nations (UN) does not count all aid entering Gaza. The UN has stated that its figures only include supplies it has observed or registered at specific crossings, and that it is unable to comprehensively monitor all incoming cargo due to various challenges.

[BigThief]

Try googling the word famine first. After that we can work on other words anymore terms. Air drop and famine would be a big week for you though so we don't want to push things.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Try googling the word famine first. After that we can work on other words anymore terms. Air drop and famine would be a big week for you though so we don't want to push things.

Doesn’t know what an air drop is. Doesn’t know what famine or starvation is or how it’s determined. And is now just throwing out random numbers he made up.

“Guys pay attention to me!!”

lol

[Looch City]

I'm not even sure what the entire point of this "UN aid count is wrong!" debate is.

Okay the count is right. People are still starving.
Okay the count is wrong. People are still starving.

What is the sticking point exactly? Seems like pointless fixation without mentioning the fact that people...are still starving in Gaza?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Looch City

I'm not even sure what the entire point of this "UN aid count is wrong!" debate is.

Okay the count is right. People are still starving.
Okay the count is wrong. People are still starving.

What is the sticking point exactly? Seems like pointless fixation without mentioning the fact that people...are still starving in Gaza?

The .04% of aid, much of which lands in the ocean, they aren’t counting is single-handedly saving Gaza from starvation and famine despite the humanitarian groups and doctors on the ground reporting starvation and famine.

It’s pretty obvious.