Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Slava]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

This should be great news for everyone on CP and something we can come together and celebrate but this new budget and Carney government is eliminating the luxury tax. Everyone is welcome for champagne on my yatch.

Sure, but they also removed the emissions cap and that probably does make a lot of people on this board pretty happy?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

This should be great news for everyone on CP and something we can come together and celebrate but this new budget and Carney government is eliminating the luxury tax. Everyone is welcome for champagne on my yatch.

Your knock off rolls royce yatch? hahahahga

[calgarygeologist]

Another interesting tidbit from the budget:

“The government will also consider options for the privatization of airports,” the budget document said, after laying out preliminary ways the government plans to “unlock more of the economic potential of Canada’s airports and consider new ways to attract private sector investment.”

https://financialpost.com/transporta...izing-airports

[Looch City]

So has Pollievier already denounced everything in this abhorrent absolutely trash no good terrible LIBRUL budget yet?

Basically calling for an election? The end of Canada as we know it?

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Looch City

So has Pollievier already denounced everything in this abhorrent absolutely trash no good terrible LIBRUL budget yet?

Basically calling for an election? The end of Canada as we know it?

I imagine the funding boost for the CBC has probably sent him over the edge into complete meltdown mode. Someone might want to do a wellness check on him.

[peter12]

I'm not a big anti-CBC TV/Gem/Online News guy. Like the vast majority of Canadians, I never think about it, let alone use or watch it. Why are we still funding this ####? Radio, I can understand, but the rest of it?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by peter12

I'm not a big anti-CBC TV/Gem/Online News guy. Like the vast majority of Canadians, I never think about it, let alone use or watch it. Why are we still funding this ####? Radio, I can understand, but the rest of it?

Honestly, I believe in the value of having a National Broadcaster as I similarly believe in the value of having a National Postal Service, but the facts of the matter are that the CBC is crap.

Its not that fundamentally its a bad idea, I just find the end deliverable product to be essentially garbage.

Take the CBC and place what it offers next to the BBC or ABC. Its absolute crap.

I dont believe in defunding it or whatever nor am I interested in arguing whether or not its a biased mouthpiece for whatever Government happens to be sitting on the Hill, I just think that as a Nation we need to be getting more value for the money we sink into it.

It needs reform, not extinction.

[peter12]

Yeah, I can get behind that point. I would love to see resources poured into local news and have a strong national news-desk.

[btimbit]

CBC News is top notch, and a huge deal these days as the bulk of our media is owned by Americans with right wing ties.

But the rest of CBC programming? Not for me

[Bonded]

Seems like a lot of hype from Carney and kind of underwhelming. Not awful but not the ambitious plan that was hyped. Not much on tax changes and will be interesting to see if the private sector actually participates.
Crazy to me that the conservatives still haven’t kicked PP out as this is the kind of thing that could give them another chance at the win if they had a competent leader.
I do wish the Liberals adopted the Cons idea of tax breaks for investing profits into Canada.

[Locke]

At first read-through I am seriously underwhelmed in regards to the Tax effects of this budget.

They appear to have made very basic elements more complicated than they had to be...and they want CRA to do these for you?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Seems like a lot of hype from Carney and kind of underwhelming. Not awful but not the ambitious plan that was hyped. Not much on tax changes and will be interesting to see if the private sector actually participates.
Crazy to me that the conservatives still haven’t kicked PP out as this is the kind of thing that could give them another chance at the win if they had a competent leader.
I do wish the Liberals adopted the Cons idea of tax breaks for investing profits into Canada.

Doesn’t the acceleration of depreciation of invested capital do exactly this is a very targeted way?

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Locke

Honestly, I believe in the value of having a National Broadcaster as I similarly believe in the value of having a National Postal Service, but the facts of the matter are that the CBC is crap.

Its not that fundamentally its a bad idea, I just find the end deliverable product to be essentially garbage.

Take the CBC and place what it offers next to the BBC or ABC. Its absolute crap.

You've actually watched content from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation?

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

You've actually watched content from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation?

Everyone should watch Bluey.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

You've actually watched content from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation?

Absolutely! Their news segments and investigative journalism is actually really good!

For instance, I'm not a 'Rah! Rah! Monarchy!' Kind of guy, so I actually like getting a very different perspective and opinion on current events. And they also make very good documentaries!

The ABC is lightyears better than the CBC, not quite up to BBC, but still very good.

Hell...you want to watch top-notch Documentaries? PBS man. All of them put the swill the CBC trots out to absolute shame.

[Locke]

Also, and this has absolutely nothing to do with the current discussion regarding the CBC, BBC or ABC, but if you're having a bad day? Watch highlights of Australian Breakfast TV news.

[ZedMan]

Originally Posted by Locke

Honestly, I believe in the value of having a National Broadcaster as I similarly believe in the value of having a National Postal Service, but the facts of the matter are that the CBC is crap.

Its not that fundamentally its a bad idea, I just find the end deliverable product to be essentially garbage.

Take the CBC and place what it offers next to the BBC or ABC. Its absolute crap.

I dont believe in defunding it or whatever nor am I interested in arguing whether or not its a biased mouthpiece for whatever Government happens to be sitting on the Hill, I just think that as a Nation we need to be getting more value for the money we sink into it.

It needs reform, not extinction.

Funny to mention "value for money" given that, per capita, Canada spends 1/3 of what the UK does for the BBC and 35% less than what ABC gets from the Australian government.


From this article: https://www.niemanlab.org/2022/01/do...ourse-they-do/


CBC's share of the budget per capita is relatively paltry.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by ZedMan

Funny to mention "value for money" given that, per capita, Canada spends 1/3 of what the UK does for the BBC and 35% less than what ABC gets from the Australian government.


From this article: https://www.niemanlab.org/2022/01/do...ourse-they-do/


CBC's share of the budget per capita is relatively paltry.

You mean we have to pay in order to have nice things?

Facts are a sumofabich.

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by Slava

Sure, but they also removed the emissions cap and that probably does make a lot of people on this board pretty happy?

This is a Conservative budget's wet dream.

Infrastructure spending, historical defense spending, immigration cut, extensive mineral projects, emissions cap removal, sunsetting of some social services and initiatives, cut on unnecessary taxes such as luxury tax, public sector getting the chainsaw approach (so much for cap). No pandering or gaslighting.

If this was a CPC / Poilievre tabled budget this thread would have ballooned up 100 pages by now. The only difference would be it would have included some grifting measures like defunding the CBC.

This is the first budget in a long time I can get behind considering the US impact.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

CBC is reporting that the MP has been booted from the CPC caucus.

seems more like he fled the party and wasn't kicked out.

Nova Scotia MP Chris d'Entremont resigns from Conservative caucus to join the Liberals

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/con...mont-9.6966836

"I came to a clear conclusion: there is a better path forward for our country — and a better path forward for Acadie-Annapolis," he said.

The longtime Conservative, who served in provincial politics before being elected to the House of Commons in 2019, said Canada's challenges demand people lead "not with complaint" — a thinly veiled swipe at Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre — "but with confidence in a strong future."

Liberal whip Mark Gerretsen said d'Entremont was leaving the Conservatives because the party has become more stridently right-wing under Poilievre.

"The reality is what we're seeing in the Conservative Party is that the progressive movement is dead. Quite frankly, Chris is a Progressive Conservative," Gerretsen said.

Conservative deputy leader Melissa Lantsman meanwhile said d'Entremont was betraying his constituents. Chris made a choice and I think the choice is to not fight inflation, not to fight to lower grocery prices like his constituents elected him to do,"

Conservative MP Aaron Gunn was even more blunt: "He's a coward," he told reporters.