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Old 11-03-2025, 05:10 PM   #11481
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There is no way burning 1 year off his contract is meaningless

As for world juniors I am curious how that will play out
Well it means that they have to re-sign him a year earlier. The 40 games mark is much more meaningful.’
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Old 11-03-2025, 05:12 PM   #11482
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There is no way burning 1 year off his contract is meaningless

As for world juniors I am curious how that will play out
Oh they will send him to world juniors for sure providing Hockey Canada asks him. Given how stupid that program is run who knows.
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Old 11-03-2025, 05:12 PM   #11483
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I can see a plan like this..

Play 60-70% of the games until the World Juniors. Head back to Junior for a playoff push. Join the Wranglers for their Playoffs. Full time back to the NHL next year.

I think it is better for him to play meaningful games down the stretch vs. the Flames floundering at the bottom of the league.
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Old 11-03-2025, 05:13 PM   #11484
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I can see a plan like this..

Play 60-70% of the games until the World Juniors. Head back to Junior for a playoff push. Join the Wranglers for their Playoffs. Full time back to the NHL next year.

I think it is better for him to play meaningful games down the stretch vs. the Flames floundering at the bottom of the league.
He isn't going back to the OHL.
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Old 11-03-2025, 05:16 PM   #11485
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If Conroy had received a really good offer combining some of what he actually wants (young right shot centre, young left shot d, 1st round pick) then one/some/all of our old guys would be gone.

We and the media over estimate the demand. Us because we are homers, media because they need something shiny to talk about.
I don't see how you can definitively say that.

Who’s to say there haven’t been competitive offers for a player like Kadri and they just aren’t ready to move him yet.

The narrative from the popular pundits seems to be that they’re waiting for him to ask out or for the season to play out a bit more.
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Old 11-03-2025, 05:18 PM   #11486
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Yes he burns a year, but the 40 game deadline is more important as it counts as a year of service towards arbitration and UFA rights.
If the plan is to sign him to a "big" 8 year deal at the end of his ELC, it matters a bit less when he becomes UFA. It might change the numbers a bit for that one year that flips from RFA to UFA.

If we try to play games with bridge contracts then the 40 game mark matters more.
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Old 11-03-2025, 06:17 PM   #11487
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I understand that but the idea that the Flames can just make these deals whenever they want is naive.
Of course the Flames can make these deals whenever they want. They just highlight the "Accept Trade" option and then press the A button.
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Old 11-03-2025, 06:21 PM   #11488
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stars look to be doing something - although may just be something like a jersey announcement.
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Old 11-03-2025, 06:21 PM   #11489
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There is no way burning 1 year off his contract is meaningless

As for world juniors I am curious how that will play out
I mean it isn't meaningless but it isn't exactly a bad thing, there's pros or cons to both.
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Old 11-03-2025, 06:22 PM   #11490
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Well eight year deals will be gone next year.

I believe players will earn UFA rights after 7 seasons in the NHL. I would hope that after this season and two more, Flames will be clear eyed about what they have with Parekh and aren't looking at another 3 year deal.

I can see burning the first year as working in the Flames favor.
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Old 11-03-2025, 07:09 PM   #11491
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Oh yeah I forgot...I would rather him get to a 7 year deal sooner vs. giving him another year to build leverage for his long term contract
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Old 11-03-2025, 08:07 PM   #11492
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I’m fairly confident Zayne will be going to WJ’s
And no, not insiderrrrr information, just makes logical sense.
No Cameron, no inside job selection committee this year.
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Old 11-03-2025, 08:35 PM   #11493
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Oh yeah I forgot...I would rather him get to a 7 year deal sooner vs. giving him another year to build leverage for his long term contract
He has already lost the ability to have play another year before he gets a new contract. That happened at the 10 game mark. He will be up for a new contract in the summer of 2028.
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Old 11-03-2025, 08:35 PM   #11494
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its more nuanced than this list...It can say the Penguins are a harder team than the Golden Knights with Stone were but I disagree.

Also, lowest back to backs left while everyone else is in a crazy condensed schedule.

Realistically the November schedule is easier than October...December is mid. Janurary is the easiest month. It doesn't gurantee anything but it makes a difference.

Most people thought the Rangers game signalled the end of the Gauntlet, team is .500 and scoring more since despite 4 of those 5 on the road. Before that they had one shootout win total. Does it matter? who knows but I think all their numbers will continue to improve.

We can compare numbers from October vs. all the other months as the season continues...pretty sure October will be the outlier.
Nobody said it wasn't going to be the outlier though...and you were the one that brought up the combined .635 points percentage of their competition so far which is all that site is doing too. So yeah it is more nuanced than that, but so is mentioning the point percentage of their opponents so far.

But October will be an outlier for sure. Right now they are at a .286 points percentage and nobody excepts that to continue the rest of the season. But most likely outcome is they play around .500 the rest of they way, which just leaves them in no man's land.

Personally if the opportunity presents itself I'd rather they make moves that have them playing around .450 the rest of the way and ensuring a top 5 pick, vs just playing out the season and maybe only moving Andersson and finishing in that 8-12 range.
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Old 11-04-2025, 09:48 AM   #11495
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I am betting with the Olympic year, that there will be increased trades this year. Players are going to be playing full-out for their countries, and this is bound to result in some injuries. I expect a bit more movement than last season, and there aren't as many sellers (though I am sure some will pop-up by then, but hopefully the Blues improve out of the basement).
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Old 11-04-2025, 10:44 AM   #11496
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He has already lost the ability to have play another year before he gets a new contract. That happened at the 10 game mark. He will be up for a new contract in the summer of 2028.
I think you misunderstand the concern. This isn't about his ELC. This is about when his RFA status changes to UFA status.

Yes, if he plays 10 games then he burns a year on his ELC.
If he plays 40 games, his RFA status changes to be one year earlier (for example, age 25 instead of 26).

Either way, I hope that in the summer of 2028 he is being signed to a max term contract (7 years). If he becomes UFA a year earlier then I expect the AAV of that contract to go up slightly as we would be buying another year of UFA.
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Old 11-04-2025, 11:24 AM   #11497
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I think you misunderstand the concern. This isn't about his ELC. This is about when his RFA status changes to UFA status.

Yes, if he plays 10 games then he burns a year on his ELC.
If he plays 40 games, his RFA status changes to be one year earlier (for example, age 25 instead of 26).

Either way, I hope that in the summer of 2028 he is being signed to a max term contract (7 years). If he becomes UFA a year earlier then I expect the AAV of that contract to go up slightly as we would be buying another year of UFA.
Sure, don’t disagree that a 7 year contract is best. If his agent and him only want to sign a 3 year deal though they will likely sign a 3 year deal. So having flexibility still has value.

For me whatever he might learn at the NHL level (assuming he is not lighting the league up offensively for the next 6-7 weeks before he goes to the World Juniors) is not worth the lost year of RFA status. Basically treat him the same way the Oilers treated Draisaitl.
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He has already lost the ability to have play another year before he gets a new contract. That happened at the 10 game mark. He will be up for a new contract in the summer of 2028.
I know, I was replying to the post about him burning a year of his contract being meaningless or not. Just saying its an overall good thing IMO.
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Old 11-04-2025, 04:42 PM   #11500
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I do wonder if the trade market for Kadri will pick up after his 1000th game. I understand if Conroy told teams that they wouldn’t be making any potential Kadri trade until after that point. The east especially is extremely tight this year with very little point difference from top to bottom right now. And there are lots of teams desperate to make the playoffs this year. Could see a few stepping up to make a move early to gain some momentum and be a playoff team.

I think the risk of a first round pick in a Kadri trade being high is pretty easily mitigated by making it protected. Really hoping some team steps up and offers a top prospect and a 1st round pick (i.e. the Nelson return) for Kadri and would love for it to happen earlier in the season. Not sure if it will happen considering Conroy would have a high asking price and it usually takes the pressure of a deadline for a team to step up and pay. Conroy is likely in no rush to trade Kadri since he is signed for multiple seasons and is earning his cap hit so far.

Hoping for the following at some point this season:

Kadri for a 2026 1st round pick (top 10 protected) + top prospect (centre or LS defenceman)
Andersson for a 2026 1st round pick (top 10 protected) + 2nd round pick
Coleman for a 2026 or 2027 conditional 2nd round pick (becomes a 1st if the acquiring team makes the conference finals)

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