11-02-2025, 09:43 PM
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#11321
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Referencing your posts is an attack?
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So you agree with me?
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11-02-2025, 10:30 PM
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#11322
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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
So you agree with me?
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No, I don’t think it’s OK for Israel or Hamas to kill civilians. Can’t agree with you there.
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11-03-2025, 09:01 AM
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#11323
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
No, I don’t think it’s OK for Israel or Hamas to kill civilians. Can’t agree with you there.
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I see you have a little pep in your step! That’s good!
However, you are deliberately trying to derail the conversation. So let’s stay on track here.
Do you believe that Israel was deliberately starving the citizens of Gaza throughout the conflict?
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11-03-2025, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
I see you have a little pep in your step! That’s good!
However, you are deliberately trying to derail the conversation. So let’s stay on track here.
Do you believe that Israel was deliberately starving the citizens of Gaza throughout the conflict?
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Israel is carrying out a deliberate campaign of starvation in the occupied Gaza Strip, systematically destroying the health, well-being and social fabric of Palestinian life, Amnesty International said today as it published chilling new testimonies of starved displaced civilians. Their accounts underscore the organization’s repeated findings that the deadly combination of hunger and disease is not an unfortunate byproduct of Israel’s military operations. It is the intended outcome of plans and policies that Israel has designed and implemented, over the past 22 months, to deliberately inflict on Palestinians in Gaza conditions of life calculated to bring about their physical destruction – which is part and parcel of Israel’s ongoing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.
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https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...berate-policy/
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The Israeli government is using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare in the occupied Gaza Strip, which is a war crime, Human Rights Watch said today. Israeli forces are deliberately blocking the delivery of water, food, and fuel, while willfully impeding humanitarian assistance, apparently razing agricultural areas, and depriving the civilian population of objects indispensable to their survival.
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https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/18/...eapon-war-gaza
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Israel’s deliberate starvation of Gaza’s population is a logical conclusion of a campaign aimed at the destruction of life in the Strip, a campaign that many experts view as genocidal.
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https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-res...raels-campaign
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The mathematics of famine are simple in Gaza. Palestinians cannot leave, war has ended farming and Israel has banned fishing, so practically every calorie its population eats must be brought in from outside.
Israel knows how much food is needed. It has been calibrating hunger in Gaza for decades, initially calculating shipments to exert pressure while avoiding starvation.
“The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger,” a senior adviser to the then prime minister, Ehud Olmert, said in 2006. An Israeli court ordered the release of documents showing the details of those macabre sums two years later.
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Yet data compiled and published by Israel’s own government makes clear that it has been starving Gaza. Between March and June, Israel allowed just 56,000 tonnes of food to enter the territory, Cogat records show, less than a quarter of Gaza’s minimum needs for that period.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...famine-in-gaza
Happy reading. Don’t worry about responding or stating whether you actually read any of this, nobody cares about your opinion.
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11-03-2025, 09:32 AM
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Looooooooooooooch
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Throughout all this, I have never understood why it seems like Hamas' actions against its own citizens are somehow used to justify Israel's actions against...those same citizens.
It's absolutely asinine why Israel is NOT being held to a higher standard.
They are no different than Hamas with their treatment of Gaza citizens. No different.
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11-03-2025, 09:37 AM
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#11328
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
lol Fuzz clearly faster on the draw than I am.
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Yes he is. But you posted the same googles.
This is a person who was actually there, boots on the ground in Gaza. He is contradicting what the UN is saying.
Starts around 13:45.
https://macdonaldlaurier.ca/palestin...-policy-talks/
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11-03-2025, 09:54 AM
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#11329
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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
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Neat, go read the articles, many of which include actual experts and yes, even people who were actually there! Some actually starving!
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11-03-2025, 09:56 AM
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#11330
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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
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As near as I can find he was a guest of the IDF and taken to a few places. I mean, I guess if that's what "actual, boots on the ground" means, and you take his word from a propaganda tour over, you know, medical doctors who sacrifice their lives to try to help the people Israel is hell bent on exterminating, then ya, I guess that's a viewpoint to swallow whole throatily. One guy does an IDF tour and that's all you need to reinforce your position over all the other evidence? Are doctors typically liars?
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Doctors report record rates of acute malnutrition, especially among children and older people. Illnesses like acute watery diarrhea are spreading, markets are empty, waste is piling up and adults are collapsing on the streets from hunger and dehydration. Distributions in Gaza average just 28 trucks a day, far from enough for over two million people, many of whom have gone weeks without assistance.
The UN-led humanitarian system has not failed, it has been prevented from functioning.
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https://www.doctorswithoutborders.ca...-wasting-away/
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11-03-2025, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
As near as I can find he was a guest of the IDF and taken to a few places. I mean, I guess if that's what "actual, boots on the ground" means, and you take his word from a propaganda tour over, you know, medical doctors who sacrifice their lives to try to help the people Israel is hell bent on exterminating, then ya, I guess that's a viewpoint to swallow whole throatily. One guy does an IDF tour and that's all you need to reinforce your position over all the other evidence? Are doctors typically liars?
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He’s also an anti-Canadian, pro-Israeli government weirdo whose entire existence is basically calling everything anti-semitic and accusing everyone of conspiring against Israel.
But hey, for some people some guy on a podcast visiting Gaza once is enough to defy all the actual experts doing actual work lol.
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11-03-2025, 10:51 AM
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#11332
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
He’s also an anti-Canadian, pro-Israeli government weirdo whose entire existence is basically calling everything anti-semitic and accusing everyone of conspiring against Israel.
But hey, for some people some guy on a podcast visiting Gaza once is enough to defy all the actual experts doing actual work lol.
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I know like a dozen people who have gone to the Holy Land, so you could say I know many experts on the subject. By extension, I am also an expert.
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11-03-2025, 10:59 AM
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#11333
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
He’s also an anti-Canadian, pro-Israeli government weirdo whose entire existence is basically calling everything anti-semitic and accusing everyone of conspiring against Israel.
But hey, for some people some guy on a podcast visiting Gaza once is enough to defy all the actual experts doing actual work lol.
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Well, think it’s important to look at more than one side of the coin. Can you link your source for what you are stating?
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11-03-2025, 11:07 AM
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#11334
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Join Date: May 2004
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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
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You gotta be really effin stupid to buy this.
Sorry.
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11-03-2025, 11:17 AM
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#11335
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Originally Posted by Itse
You gotta be really effin stupid to buy this.
Sorry.
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Why is this guy such a bad source?
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11-03-2025, 11:41 AM
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#11336
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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
Why is this guy such a bad source?
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Why is he the one source you chose to listen to and present as an alternative to reality?
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11-03-2025, 12:18 PM
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#11337
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
Why is this guy such a bad source?
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"He is currently an associate fellow at the Henry Jackson Society and an associate fellow at the Jerusalem Institute for Strategy and Security."
No conflict of interest here at all.
He does make a good point though that hard to distribute aid when bullets flying all over the place.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...llecting-flour
Oh. And he's an ex Para. A regiment notorious for murdering civilians.
Why do you ignore the sources Fuzz presented? Why do you consider them bad sources?
And do you find Israel's mass murder of civilians repulsive and evil?
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11-03-2025, 10:31 PM
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#11338
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Originally Posted by Bagor
"He is currently an associate fellow at the Henry Jackson Society and an associate fellow at the Jerusalem Institute for Strategy and Security."
No conflict of interest here at all.
He does make a good point though that hard to distribute aid when bullets flying all over the place.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...llecting-flour
Oh. And he's an ex Para. A regiment notorious for murdering civilians.
Why do you ignore the sources Fuzz presented? Why do you consider them bad sources?
And do you find Israel's mass murder of civilians repulsive and evil?
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I have never heard of an air drop. What the guck is that? Did you make that up to try and make a point?
I get that they reference them in your article, but really???
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11-04-2025, 12:07 AM
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#11339
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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
I have never heard of an air drop. What the guck is that? Did you make that up to try and make a point?
I get that they reference them in your article, but really???
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No. But let's get back on point.
Why do you ignore the multiple sources Fuzz presented? Why do you consider them bad sources? Are your saying that they're all wrong?
And do you find Israel's mass murder of civilians repulsive and evil?
It's fascinating that you struggle to acknowledge the evilness of deliberate mass murder.
Is it because you feel the mass murder is justified? That it is a necessary evil?
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11-04-2025, 12:10 AM
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#11340
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Bagor
No. But let's get back on point.
Why do you ignore the multiple sources Fuzz presented? Why do you consider them bad sources? Are your saying that they're all wrong?
And do you find Israel's mass murder of civilians repulsive and evil?
It's fascinating that you struggle to acknowledge the evilness of deliberate mass murder.
Is it because you feel the mass murder is justified? That it is a necessary evil?
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Hold on one second.
What the Frick is an air drop?
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