2025 World Series - Toronto Blue Jays vs Los Angeles Dodgers

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

They calculated that the Jays in Game 6 and 7 brought the World Series winning run up to the plate 14 times

I think the previous record for a losing team was 4 by Cleveland in 2016

- 2x in Game 6 in the 9th
- 6x in Game 7 in the 9th
- 3x in Game 7 in the 10th
- 3x in Game 7 in the 11th

And a total of 0 runs scored. The more stats that come out for this loss, the crueller it's gonna seem.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

And how many of those had RISP. Half?

[GirlySports]

I think it's disingenuous the Dodgers didnt deserve it. In each of the 14 chances above, they fought to prevent it, good pitching good defense.

We focus on IKF running but that play by Rojas was incredible.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

And how many of those had RISP. Half?

Yes 8 out of 14

[Senator Clay Davis]

The 10th last night was the only runner-less inning, 11th started with no one on, and the first two ABs in the 9th no one was in scoring position. So yeah, 8/14 chances to get a run with a single, and it didn't happen.

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I think it's disingenuous the Dodgers didnt deserve it. In each of the 14 chances above, they fought to prevent it, good pitching good defense.

We focus on IKF running but that play by Rojas was incredible.

The Dodgers made the plays they need to at the right time.

But the sheer amount of chances the Jays had, even if you run pessimistic % chances in each one, would indicate the Jays should have won the series with even a tiny bit of good fortune.

Dodgers deserved it. in the end the team that wins deserves it.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Yes 8 out of 14

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

The 10th last night was the only runner-less inning, 11th started with no one on, and the first two ABs in the 9th no one was in scoring position. So yeah, 8/14 chances to get a run with a single, and it didn't happen.

That feels like the worst stat in the history of sports. It’s so unique because no other sport would allow you that many attempts to win the game outright. And not with that level of probability of success.

Edit: maybe 8 match points in a grand slam in the 4th and 5th sets? Has anyone ever done that? lol

[GirlySports]

Tennis is the only other comparable

https://twitter.com/user/status/1931797512370749900

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I think it's disingenuous the Dodgers didnt deserve it. In each of the 14 chances above, they fought to prevent it, good pitching good defense.

We focus on IKF running but that play by Rojas was incredible.

Yeah it's not being talked about how tough a bounce that was. Incredible play.
They made the big plays when they needed to. Tip of the cap.

[Cowboy89]

Right now this stings pretty hard because of how many chances across Games 6 & 7 the Jays had to win it. When zooming out though I think Jays fans will find it will get easier to process and accept. To me it's the 'unrealized potential' losses that hurt so much more. This 2025 Blue Jays baseball team squeezed every last bit of baseball and big moments out of that roster and it will be nearly impossible to not look back fondly at this team and this season.

The Blue Jays examples of 'unrealized potential' both involve ALCS losses to the Royals in 2015 and 1985:

- the 2015 team on paper was the best team in baseball by the end of the season and the fluke Mets who were the NL champions were going to get steamrolled by whoever came out of the the American League. The Jays in my mind were also better than the Royals. That team could have done so much more, but a 22 year playoff drought placed the bar too low and they treated winning the AL East as their World Series that year. They took their foot off the gas after clinching the division and lost 4 of 5 remaining regular season games and failed to earn home field advantage throughout the playoffs. Sure enough they find themselves in Game 6 in the ALCS needing to win both games 6 & 7 to get into the World Series. But alas they were playing those games in KC and Amish Bartman still haunts me to this day.

- 1985 Blue Jays won 99 games in the regular season and choked a 3-1 ALCS lead to a team that wouldn't have even finished second in the AL East that year. That roster was a who's who of Blue Jay greats: Dave Stieb, Jesse Barfield, George Bell, Lloyd Moseby, Tony Fernandez, etc.

[blender]

Lots of good comments here, and I salute the core Jays fans here who are suffering yet remain magnanimous; it was a tough one to not win, especially as it literally happened twice.

I am a Red Sox fan, but for some reason I find myself feeling loyalty to the AL East and of course, the Canada connection helps. I was all-in on the bandwagon and really enjoyed this playoff run.

One thing I have to take exception with is the comments suggesting the Jays deserved to win and got robbed by bad luck. I don't think that is true. Sure, a single lucky bounce could have seen them victorious, but the Dodgers played very well, and when the chips were down, they were the better team. Dodgers had the best pitcher in the series, and often times that alone can be enough. Jays were also hurt by not having a dominant closer. I look at the season Chapman had for my Red Sox. If the Jays had that type of pitcher, they win this series, IMO.

Finally, why can't the Jays be back next year? Use the Dodgers model. Toronto is a big market. Spend the money, sign Bichette, sign a closer, fill the holes, be aggressive, court the Japanese stars coming over this off-season.

Good luck to them, at least until they have to meet Boston in the playoffs!

[Senator Clay Davis]

The emotional roller coaster that was last night's game, summed up:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1984976893158789143

[Roof-Daddy]

lol I still can't believe they lost that game or that series.

They were the better team for most of the series but lost two coin toss extra innings games and two razor thin Yamamoto starts.

With a couple of breaks they literally could have swept the Dodgers in that series and instead lost in extra innings in game 7.

I guess a $500 million luxury tax payroll was enough to buy all the phucking luck in the world too.

[Dion]

One of the most exciting World Series that I've watched in a number of years. It had all the drama and suspense one could ever ask for. It sucks that the Jays lost but you have to tip your hat for their effort as the battled to the bitter end.

[Mathgod]

As far as snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, my mind immediately goes to the 2017 Stamps and 2009 Riders.

And of course the 28-3 Falcons.

[GirlySports]

Also 1962 the Giants had 4 chances

Down 1-0 in the bottom of the ninth, pinch-hitter Matty Alou, batting for reliever Billy O'Dell, led off the inning with a bunt hit after first having a foul ball dropped, but Ralph Terry struck out the next two batters, Felipe Alou and Hiller. Mays hit a double into the right-field corner, but Maris played the carom well, then hit cutoff man Richardson with a throw that was quickly relayed home. Alou, aware of Maris' strong arm, stopped at third. Facing Willie McCovey with two outs, Terry elected to pitch to him rather than walk the bases loaded, which would have brought up slugger Orlando Cepeda. Terry's inside fastball on the second pitch handcuffed McCovey, who nonetheless adjusted his bat in mid-swing to extend his arms and hit a bullet right at Richardson for the final out.

[Manhattanboy]

I’m not even invested in the Jays the way their fans are and am still really upset today.

There was something so special about their players that you just feel terrible for them. That and the dislike I quickly developed for the Dodgers.

[Josh]

I thought I was handling this okay, but I woke up this morning and just felt like crap (I only had a single beer to drink last night).

On one hand, the American League made this one of the MOST exciting playoffs in recent memory (Sorry National league, but you lacked a LOT of drama).

For me, the way the Mariners lost game 7 (Sorry, but my Cannons memories made me a Mariners fan first) and then the way the Jays lost game 7. It was just a brutal double gut punch and honestly feels worse to me than 2004.

The only consistently winning team in my life is Oregon State University Baseball (I hate college football after this last money grab). For my pro sports teams seem to always be full of heartbreak.

Again, its going to be a long winter sports-wise. Looking forward to opening day......

[Jiggy_12]

We'll always have that Springer dinger. This result doesn't change the placement of that moment among my top sports memories of all time.

[Inferno]

This has been a long day and I woke up at noon. I just keep thinking about how it should have never got to the point it did.

I almost would have preferred to just lose against the Mariners. The only player I dislike is Arozarena and I found he wasn't as ######y is he was when he played for the Rays.

The Dodgers are full of ######bags and of course it couldn't have been Freeman and Teo to hit homeruns. It had to be those assclowns Muncy and Smith.