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[Wastedyouth]

Coaching staff facilitated turning Coronato into a 30 goal scorer and Wolf into a Calder candidate, and somehow made Honzek a playable player even though he was pretty meh since he was drafted. Everyone pissed and moaned how they dealt with those guys early last year too.

They actually DO know what they are doing and how to develop. You just don't like the process because you are impatient and/or extremely short sighted.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

But he also added they don't want him getting to 40 games, which impacts his UFA status.

That’s why I would keep him until the juniors then have him go play there including to get some confidence. Then make the call

[Royle9]

Solid power kill
More time in defensive zone on the PP

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

But they are playing.

Honzek is playing, Gridin got 5 games, Parekh has played 9.

Just giving them spots on the roster is not how you develop kids and push them to be better.

Pretty much the entirety of the rest of the league would disagree with the Flames and you.

Put kids on the roster, and coach to their strengths while working on their weaknesses.

I mean, there’s no defending what the Flames are doing so far this season. They’re not a young team, and they’re the worst team in the league.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by neo45

I don’t want them to accidentally, kind of, half rebuild is the thing

Whatever you want to call this, it’s not a proper committed rebuild.

Of course it is.

They’re trading all these veterans. They have to. They can’t even get these games to OT.

They couldn’t score with a handful of fifties in a whorehouse, and they’re in that whorehouse with no money at all.

[Flashpoint]

Originally Posted by Locke

Jesus Backlund...shoot. The. Puck.

I’m sorry. He just shouldn’t be an NHL captain.

At his peak he was a good 2nd line defensive center with pop. But only in the regular season (not his fault?).

He’s never dragging anyone into a fight. Just not the cut of his jib.

Ok player. Bad captain.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

We were spoiled by Hartley hockey. He scratched the vets O'Brian, McGrattan, Sarich all absolutely hated him. Rumor has it that he even made Kipper go into retirement early, but he sure gave Monahan, Gaudreau, and even Brodie, and Backlund a huge opportunity.

On the down side neither Monahan nor Gaudreau managed to figure out the defensive side of the game for a long while after.

He also shattered he confidence of other young players

[Manhattanboy]

Flames are quite a bit better than their record in my view.

Which in a rebuild is not a bad thing.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by neo45

I don’t want them to accidentally, kind of, half rebuild is the thing

Whatever you want to call this, it’s not a proper committed rebuild.

May as well just forfeit the games.

Are we shocked the players and staff are trying to win

[Robbob]

There are still 70 games left in the season, the kids will get in. Not a committed rebuild? It is nov 1st. The results speak for themselves.

[TheScorpion]

Coronato looks like a shell of himself. Not at all assertive.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Coronato looks like a shell of himself. Not at all assertive.

The sophomore slump is a real thing.

[Flamesfan05]

Scoring is really hard

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

He also shattered he confidence of other young players

What notable players did Hartley sabotage?

[AC]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

You want a rebuild, and then you hate every minute of it.

This is what confuses me about a lot of the complaints. I'm sure it's a case of a vocal minority, but I honestly thought this was the one Canadian fan base that could handle a rebuild without constant temper tantrums.

We'll see how the season develops, but it's possible that Kadri, Andersson, and Coleman are all moved this season. In recent history we've seen Mangiapane, Markstrom, Hanifin, Tanev, Lindholm, Zadorov, and Toffol all moved out with draft picks and young players looking for a new situation as the predominant returns.

I'd love to see Parekh (and Zary+Coronato to lesser degrees) get used differently, but I also think there's value in not just giving the young players free-reign without establishing key values, principles, and standards of professionalism. We laughed at the Oilers for years and years for being bad and fostering a losing culture.

This is a rebuild, the team overachieved in spite of it last year but this season so far is going as most would have / should have expected. There will be a LOT of growing pains going forward, I just wish they were more entertaining to this point.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

He also shattered he confidence of other young players

Yes, I forgot he completely ruined Baertschi's confidence. I can't remember if Granlund was another.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Pretty much the entirety of the rest of the league would disagree with the Flames and you.

Put kids on the roster, and coach to their strengths while working on their weaknesses.

I mean, there’s no defending what the Flames are doing so far this season. They’re not a young team, and they’re the worst team in the league.

Based on what?

All good organizations develop their kids patiently. Only the Edmontons and Buffalos give them the keys and throw.them to the wolves

[Manhattanboy]

I hope we keep Kadri.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

What notable players did Hartley sabotage?

Sven is the big one

[gvitaly]

What a save by Cooley. He looks hurt.