How do pitchers become relievers vs starters. Do they all start off dreaming to be a starting pitcher? Also, how can starting pitchers go so much longer than relievers.
Split finger pitch. Fingers are spread out more which gives it dip.
It also look like fastball out of the hand to the batter so they commit to swing but then bottom drops out and ball is well out of zone and the swingers swing plane.
Part of the reason his is good is because he has a high release point which double makes the pitch looking like it’s going to be in the strike zone until it drops out.
Also the fact that there is very very little video on Trey because he started the season in Single A ball. In hockey terms there really isn’t an equivalent but basically something close to AJHL.
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Once you're set you cant make any devious moves unless you unset.
Think of it like a false start in football. Linemen who are set cannot move unless they unset and start over.
It’s not even close to that simple.Nobody knows what a balk is. It’s more mysterious than a check swing. I genuinely don’t believe that Major league baseball or a major league baseball umpire would be able to explain it succinctly and accurately.
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Just don’t make me explain a balk. No one can explain what constitutes a balk.
BALK RULES! IMPORTANT!
1. You can't just be up there and just doin' a balk like that.
1a. A balk is when you
1b. Okay well listen. A balk is when you balk the
1c. Let me start over
1c-a. The pitcher is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, batter, that prohibits the batter from doing, you know, just trying to hit the ball. You can't do that.
1c-b. Once the pitcher is in the stretch, he can't be over here and say to the runner, like, "I'm gonna get ya! I'm gonna tag you out! You better watch your butt!" and then just be like he didn't even do that.
1c-b(1). Like, if you're about to pitch and then don't pitch, you have to still pitch. You cannot not pitch. Does that make any sense?
1c-b(2). You gotta be, throwing motion of the ball, and then, until you just throw it.
1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the ball up here, like this, but then there's the balk you gotta think about.
1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Balk hasn't been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasn't typecast
as that racist lady in American History X.
1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse.
1c-b(2)-b(ii). "get in mah bellah" -- Adam Water, "The Waterboy." Haha, classic...
1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. A balk is when the pitcher makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the baseball and field of
2. Do not do a balk please.
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How do pitchers become relievers vs starters. Do they all start off dreaming to be a starting pitcher? Also, how can starting pitchers go so much longer than relievers.
In most cases yes to best relievers.
Probably most pitchers start off dreaming of being starters.
Think of it like the difference between sprinters and long distance runners. Sort of. Not that extreme but same kind of idea. Relieves generally go balls out while starters are more endurance.
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How do pitchers become relievers vs starters. Do they all start off dreaming to be a starting pitcher? Also, how can starting pitchers go so much longer than relievers.
A lot of relievers do begin their career as starters, but as they develop, they realize that they maybe only have 1 or 2 pitches that are major league worthy, or they don't have the stamina or mental game plan to face hitters more than 1 time. Guys that are swing and miss with high velocity tend to be relievers, especially if they struggle with control. Starters are guys that can gameplan well, adjust to hitters tendencies, have multiple strategies for getting the same guy out, and typically have 3-4 top quality pitches. The biggest thing for starters is that they don't walk a lot of batters (although that's a good thing for any pitcher).
Almost any pitcher can be stretched out to be a starter, it just takes a training regiment.
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BALK RULES! IMPORTANT!
1. You can't just be up there and just doin' a balk like that.
1a. A balk is when you 1b. Okay well listen. A balk is when you balk the
1c. Let me start over
1c-a. The pitcher is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, batter, that prohibits the batter from doing, you know, just trying to hit the ball. You can't do that.
1c-b. Once the pitcher is in the stretch, he can't be over here and say to the runner, like, "I'm gonna get ya! I'm gonna tag you out! You better watch your butt!" and then just be like he didn't even do that.
1c-b(1). Like, if you're about to pitch and then don't pitch, you have to still pitch. You cannot not pitch. Does that make any sense?
1c-b(2). You gotta be, throwing motion of the ball, and then, until you just throw it.
1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the ball up here, like this, but then there's the balk you gotta think about.
1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Balk hasn't been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasn't typecast
as that racist lady in American History X. 1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse.
1c-b(2)-b(ii). "get in mah bellah" -- Adam Water, "The Waterboy." Haha, classic...
1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. A balk is when the pitcher makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the baseball and field of 2. Do not do a balk please.
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Every pitcher has a moment where they come set before they begin their motion to the plate. They are required to have a brief pause before they begin their delivery (although a quick pitch is a fun variation).
Once they begin their delivery, which happens as they move following their set point/pause, they have to continue in the motion to finish the pitch, otherwise it's considered unfair to the hitter and is ruled a balk.
HOWEVER, if the pitcher feints a pitch to home and then tries to pick off a runner, that's considered a balk as he didn't finish his delivery to the intended target. If he steps towards home, he has to pitch it home. If he turns and steps toward a base, he has to throw it to the base.
See...simple.
Here's a fun moment actually between Ohtani and Cortes. Nestor is f'ing with Shohei as he alters his pause or set point before delivering a pitch. I believe the ump called a balk in this case before Cortes tries a quick pitch.
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Historically that's how they've been used, but in the current analytics era managers are realizing that it's not always optimal to save your best reliever for the last inning of a close game.
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How do pitchers become relievers vs starters. Do they all start off dreaming to be a starting pitcher? Also, how can starting pitchers go so much longer than relievers.
Starting pitchers are expected to throw 6+ innings per outing, but they only play once every 4-5 games, giving them plenty of rest (necessary to recover their arm strength) between starts. Relief pitchers typically throw only 1-2 innings per game (and sometimes they'll be brought in just to retire a single batter), but they have to be ready to play any given night.
I presume by the time they reach the MLB level, pretty much every pitcher was formerly a starter at lower levels earlier in their careers, but only the best of the best become MLB starters. Some elite pitchers also go on to become closers, particularly those who have a really strong fastball but lack the endurance to throw it at a consistently high velocity for more than one inning at a time. The mediocre pitchers (compared to other MLB-quality talent, that is) end up as middle relievers.
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How do pitchers become relievers vs starters. Do they all start off dreaming to be a starting pitcher? Also, how can starting pitchers go so much longer than relievers.
The saying is that relievers are failed starters. They don't have the combination of stamina and several good pitches to be able to get batters out when the batter has several opportunities to see your pitches in the game.
Starting pitchers are more valuable (and make more money) since they pitch for more innings in a season. Even legendary closers like Mariano Rivera only pitched about 70 innings a season, while a great starting pitcher would be around 200.
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