Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Fuzz]

Dafuq! OK, real question time. How many of these are there, and how much is it estimated to cost taxpayers for UCP ####ery on this file? How is no one in jail?

[puffnstuff]

So far the GoA has shelled out (only what we know) $237.8 million (142.8M to Atrum and 95M to Evolve) to cover its mismanagement of the coal file.
Meanwhile coal revenues for 2004/5 brought in a mere 0.4% of total resource revenues for AB or $15.5M.

There will be more payouts, I dont think they are even fighting in court over these, just forking over our money.

[Major Major]

I wonder if there's any precedent here for renewables companies to seek damage after Smith shut down green energy in alberta.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The thing is - is there party in Alberta really fighting against oil and gas? Or is one saying "let's have intlligent policies" versus "anything oil and gas does is good". Lots of Albertans just do the latter.

Is there any other industry who have people with "I love X industry" stickers? Not supporting the people (like teachers or cops or troops). But the industry. Imagine car window stickers saying "I love the accounting industry" or "I love appliance dealerships".

Just here imagining "I <3 Coal Mining" stickers in Sparwood BC from people whose parents are dying of lung cancer from the impacts of conditions arising from working in coal mines.

Originally Posted by Kybosh

Huh, seems like people can pre-order up to 9 of each of the vaccine types. Not sure why anyone would want to do that but sure seems interesting.

Sounds like a way for a network of insiders to scalp it somehow. "Oh, you didn't buy a vaccine? Don't worry, my buddy in Three Hills has four extra vaccines he can ucp-transfer over to you, just sign this petition, dw about its contents, we just need 200000 signatures

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

That's kind of my point, they're drawing false equivalence between enthusiasm for O&G and capability to secure the province's O&G industry's economic fortunes. The UCP is much, much louder... they're also pretty ineffective at achieving it, but as this province has shown for the last fifty years, just one more conservative government and we'll crack it! Obviously it was the one NDP term that is why we're stuck where we are.

The AB NDP need to recognize that political game and neutralize it. UCP releases some soundbite about O&G, NDP need to be right there saying basically the same thing but while sounding like the adults who actually know how to play nicely with others to get what they want. But really, I just want Nenshi to be louder and more prevalent. When we hear from Carney, you know you're gonna hear from Poilievre. If we hear from Smith, Nenshi has got to make sure the AB NDP's point of view is represented loudly.

I'm convinced, at this point, that the Reform party, the Wildrose, and all their big C descendants are just a largescale CIA initiative to prevent Canadians from controlling our own resources. IT would hardly be unprecedented given just about every other country in the world that CIA has meddled with. I'm not even sure the "Alberta" side of the whole NEP situation in the 1980s was the best outcome, but it was the outcome that best favoured American corporate interests. Short term outcomes were probably manipulated to brainwash the populace. Would you put it past the country that has enabled just about every corrupt theocratic gongshow dictatorship out there, during the cold war at that?

Canada is the most resource rich nation on the planet, and among the most educated... yet since the 1970s, we have declined economically on the world scale as our neighbours' 1%ers have peaked. Is it really a coincidence?

[puffnstuff]

UCP President#Rob Smith#was defeated#in Mountain View County Division 6, finishing in third place with 102 votes. Incumbent councillor#Peggy Johnson#was re-elected with 188 votes.

NDP President#Bill Tonita#was re-elected#in Strathcona County’s Ward 4, which he has represented since 2017. Tonita earned 67.3 per cent of the vote.

https://daveberta.substack.com/p/and...-next-mayor-of

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Dafuq! OK, real question time. How many of these are there, and how much is it estimated to cost taxpayers for UCP ####ery on this file? How is no one in jail?

I'm sure there have been many people fired for their incompetence, right?





Right?

[puffnstuff]

You may be incredulous to find this out...but no, that did not happen.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

You may be incredulous to find this out...but no, that did not happen.

Because they don't see it as their fault. It's the public who cried about opening it back up, so we are the ones to blame.

[puffnstuff]

Article on todays Throne Speech.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...eech-9.6949904

“Alberta is winning and will continue to win this battle for our freedom and provincial rights – because your government believes we are on the right side of history and Albertans will not be denied their prosperous future,” the speech says.
Premier Danielle Smith also tabled her government's first bill of the session, the International Agreements Act.

"Ottawa can sign international agreements with other countries," Smith said at news conference on Thursday morning. "That's their right. But this legislation, it makes it clear that those agreements will only become enforceable in Alberta if implemented under provincial legislation."
"Alberta is already an energy superpower,” the speech says. “Alberta will now also become an AI superpower, making our province a world leader in arguably the world’s two most important commodities – energy and computing power.”


Nenshi responds
"It doesn't say anything about how they're going to improve the health-care system beyond doubling down on their failed reorganization and their failed model."

Bill 1, often a piece of flagship legislation for a government, is a distraction from pressing issues affecting Albertans, he said. He said it could prompt a constitutional challenge if passed into law.

"This government does not live in the same Alberta as the rest of us," Nenshi said.

[MissTeeks]

Elections Alberta approved a recall petition for Demetrios Nicolaides today.

https://as-cc-eabws-www-001.azureweb...tition-issued/

Approved Recall Petition Information

Applicant: Jennifer Yeremiy

Member: Demetrios Nicolaides, MLA for Calgary-Bow

Signature collection period: October 23, 2025, to January 21, 2026.

Total number of votes cast in Calgary-Bow in the most recent election: 26,676
(2023 Provincial General Election)

Number of required signatures for successful petition: 16,006
(60% of the total number of votes cast in the most recent election in the electoral division).

[Looch City]

Seriously that's what's plaguing us poor Albertans? ####ing international agreements that the Feds sign onto?

What do you want personal approval before Carney makes a deal with Europe or some ####?

Get the #### out. My god. The level of incompetence is unfathomable.

[puffnstuff]

Marshall Smith is a soft little *****

On October 1, Guy Felicella published an op-ed in the Calgary Herald responding to a piece written by Marshall Smith that favoured expansion of police power to address public drug use. On October 6, a defamation notice from Smith to Felicella prompted the Herald to quietly remove the story.

https://drugdatadecoded.ca/i-didnt-k...mation-notice/

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Marshall Smith is a soft little *****

On October 1, Guy Felicella published an op-ed in the Calgary Herald responding to a piece written by Marshall Smith that favoured expansion of police power to address public drug use. On October 6, a defamation notice from Smith to Felicella prompted the Herald to quietly remove the story.

https://drugdatadecoded.ca/i-didnt-k...mation-notice/

a bigger #### you to the conservative media owners who pander to the whims right. that's the disgusting part of this.

" an anonymous source at the newspaper said "the decision to remove the article was a surprise to local staff and counter to the direction and decision of the local editorial control."



Hope Felicella refuses to do the apology letters. I'm doing very poorly financially, but I'd find $10 to chip in to support him in any legal fight.

[curves2000]

Although I come from a perspective where we as a society, including the courts and law enforcement take a much stronger stance against crime and crimes caused by addiction, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that opinion piece. There is nothing libel or defaming and the writer is just providing their opinion on a hot button topic. I was expecting something totally different and I am upset that the Calgary Herald would pull a piece like that.

[puffnstuff]

Read more about Marshall Smith here (from 2023) and his 'recovery centre' story

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2023/08/1...overy-Success/


Theres a reason Smith is all over these corruption tales coming out, its kind of his thing

[Fuzz]

The problem at hand doesn’t have to do with a lack of technicians, according to Alberta Premier Danielle Smith. The problem is that Alberta only pays for a certain number of procedures, she said Thursday.

“[Alberta Health Services], when they were managing all of this, they ration care. And as a result, we know that we’ve got unused capacity. We want to be able to use the full capacity and also have people be able to take preventative and diagnostic tests," Smith said.

Funny that she just comes out and admits that massive wait times are the fault of government under funding, and nothing more.

Parks disagrees. He said the biggest bottleneck in Alberta’s diagnostic system isn’t a shortage of machines, but a shortage of skilled technologists.

He said that if the government expands private pay imaging, those techs will be drawn to better-paying, nine-to-five private jobs instead of working nights and weekends in hospitals.

“Right now, we can't get techs to work in our hospitals because it's more difficult work, it's after hours, it's weekends,” Parks said. “As soon as government opens this up for private pay ultrasounds, as an example, all of our techs will be gone.”

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...952189?cmp=rss

Clearly the plan is to underpay techs to the point where they all decide to go private, and when AHS loses the ability to provide these services, have AHS contract them to private companies.

Patients caught in long waits, meanwhile, are watching closely. Isabelle Cliche, a 47-year-old Calgary mother of three with debilitating hand pain, said she's booked for an MRI in August 2027.

The Alberta Advantage, I guess. Ideologically driven profiteering enabled by the dumbest voters in Canada.

[Ashartus]

I have told my MLA that if the government uses the notwithstanding clause to suspend the constitutional rights of any Albertan (including collective bargaining rights of teachers or transgender rights) I will donate to and volunteer in the next election for the NDP, as well as help out with any recall petitions for MLAs that vote in favour of using it.

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Funny that she just comes out and admits that massive wait times are the fault of government under funding, and nothing more.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...952189?cmp=rss

Clearly the plan is to underpay techs to the point where they all decide to go private, and when AHS loses the ability to provide these services, have AHS contract them to private companies.



The Alberta Advantage, I guess. Ideologically driven profiteering enabled by the dumbest voters in Canada.

I know this is a AB politics thread, but Canada's system does a decent job of rationing care across the board. Average Joe is bottom of the list and a lot of other people including VIP's are at the top. This isn't some opinion, it's actually the way the system operates. MP's, MLA, athletes, RCMP, Armed forces, Workers compensation claims, insurance claims and more get preferential treatment. That is the way it's suppose to work.

We pretend like we don't do it and not a lot of people talk about it or think about it but it's the harsh reality. We have allowed this to happen because Canada and Canadian provinces don't properly fund healthcare. We effectively throw BS money at the issue and hope for the best.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I know this is a AB politics thread, but Canada's system does a decent job of rationing care across the board. Average Joe is bottom of the list and a lot of other people including VIP's are at the top. This isn't some opinion, it's actually the way the system operates. MP's, MLA, athletes, RCMP, Armed forces, Workers compensation claims, insurance claims and more get preferential treatment. That is the way it's suppose to work.

We pretend like we don't do it and not a lot of people talk about it or think about it but it's the harsh reality. We have allowed this to happen because Canada and Canadian provinces don't properly fund healthcare. We effectively throw BS money at the issue and hope for the best.

Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

Armed Forces getting preferential treatment


Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha


Two and a half years and I’ve heard nothing from VAC (I own some for not following up) but please stop making #### up

Hahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahbahabababab

[CFO]

So many gov people should be fired for the coal screw up. Never given a pension and banned from any political or government job ever again