Burris Bombed again!!

[OzSome]

I usually hated reading Dowboy's article because I think he is an idiot but his article with the Sunday Herald made me think he could be right.

Time to see what Akili's got:
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/...8-c781c169428c

I have never jumped off the Stampeders bandwagon until last season's major collapse. I was also one of Henry Burris biggest fans before that playoff collapse. The way they are playing these days, you couldn't help even the Stamps biggest fan to get mad especially this early season.

I was watching the BC Lions-Stamps game yesterday and was into it in the first half. I really think the Stamps could have won the game but they blew up big time. The biggest culprit I believed was the play of QB Henry Burris. The guy doesn't seem to learn from early mistakes as he keep doing it over and over. Is it possibility that the only way to make Burris learn from his mistakes is to bench him even for one game. I guess with his brutal last half of the game against BC, the next game against the Eskimos is the best game to bench him and try Akili and even put Nealy as the backup and Burris as the 3rd stringer. I know that is kind of absurd but Burris really need to learn.

Everybody thinks we have the best receivers in the league with Copeland, Boerigter, Lewis, Rambo, Thelwell, Ralph and Howell. We also have one of the best RB in the league in Reynolds. It doesn't matter how talented the receivers and RB are, but if the QB is very inconsistent it won't matter. Yesterday's game against BC was the great example. Copeland and Lewis with over 100 yards and Ralph with 98 yards. Usually with those stats, the team could have win but not yesterday. Burris had 5-6 turnovers. Burris fumbled, threw interceptions at the wrong time. Burris also threw could have been sure catch but it was way too high. He must have think Shaq and Yao Ming was his receivers. It is sad because I always think Burris is one of the best QB in the CFL if he plays consistently and not make any bad decisions.

Anyways, I really think Higgins should try Smith next game. I am not sure if he would an improvement as he too was very inconsistent during his relief. Maybe it is because he was not expected to play. If Akili bombs, then at least we find out and they can release the guy and find someone else. Also, if SMith bombs and Burris still makes stupid mistakes then I guess it is time to get rid of the guy. We could trade him to Montreal for Calvillo even though the guy is struggling. I can't name any other QB that is worth picking up.

What do you think?

[moon]

We have seen what AKili can do and I don't want to see it again.

As bad as Burris haters try to make it seem like he played the Stamps were very much in the game and had a shot to win late.

There are a lot of problems with this team and if they focus on the play of Henry Burris then it won't matter who the QB is as the mistakes made in other areas will negate any good that the new guy could bring.

[I_am_Beast]

Burris is the most tanlented QB in the CFL, he can throw, run...make defenders miss.....ect. The problem is he doesn't have the brains to put it together. You see something special everyone once in awhile, but next down you makes you forget about it with something stupid.

I totally agree, he needs to sit, just so he can watch for teh sidelines to hopefully bring up his learning curve....if not trade/cut the guy.

We have a great D , top recievers in the game, One of teh best runingbacks.... so we can afford to put a youngster @ QB, or a aging vet...but we can't afford a moron.

[Fire]

Where is Printers these days? Trying out for the NFL? If he's comes available I would be disappointed if they don't go after him hard.

[ricoFlame]

Originally Posted by moon

We have seen what AKili can do and I don't want to see it again.

that's a good point because everyone knows what happens in your first couple apperances as a replacement says how good you're going to be.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by moon

We have seen what AKili can do and I don't want to see it again.

As bad as Burris haters try to make it seem like he played the Stamps were very much in the game and had a shot to win late.

There are a lot of problems with this team and if they focus on the play of Henry Burris then it won't matter who the QB is as the mistakes made in other areas will negate any good that the new guy could bring.

It doesn't matter how Burris plays the rest of the game as long as he continues to turn the ball over with stupid plays. Not protecting the ball, throwing off the back foot, throwing into double coverage. Its the same story every year. He also should've turned the ball over at least one more time when he threw off his back foot right into the hands of a Lion. Dude just dropped it.

Not sure if Smith is the answer, but its becoming very clear Burris isn't.

[moon]

Originally Posted by ricoFlame

that's a good point because everyone knows what happens in your first couple apperances as a replacement says how good you're going to be.

He has played in college, the NFL, preseason and now as a replacement. That is a lot of football to judge him on.

Plus it wasn't as though he struggled in those first couple of appearances he was horrendous. Not usre how many more INTs you need to see him throw before determining that he is not good enough, but leading the league after four weeks in two quarters of play sure is enough for me.

[moon]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

It doesn't matter how Burris plays the rest of the game as long as he continues to turn the ball over with stupid plays. Not protecting the ball, throwing off the back foot, throwing into double coverage. Its the same story every year. He also should've turned the ball over at least one more time when he threw off his back foot right into the hands of a Lion. Dude just dropped it.

Not sure if Smith is the answer, but its becoming very clear Burris isn't.

It wasn't Burris that couldn't stop Joe Smith. It wasn't Burris that missed the block on the blocked field goal. It wasn't Burris that couldn't return a kick more than five yards.

[ricoFlame]

Originally Posted by moon

I twasn't Burris that couldn't stop Joe Smith. It wasn't Burris that missed the block on the blocked field goal. It wasn't Burris that couldn't return a kick more than five yards.

that was burris who threw that sweet pick into double coverage in the fourth quarter...clutch.

[itcrossedtheline]

Originally Posted by ricoFlame

that was burris who threw that sweet pick into double coverage in the fourth quarter...clutch.

It was also Burris that was responsible for all the stamps turnovers i believe - 3 picks and 2 fumbles

Can the Stamps really do any better with smith in there? Not sure, but they can't do much worse

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by moon

I twasn't Burris that couldn't stop Joe Smith. It wasn't Burris that missed the block on the blocked field goal. It wasn't Burris that couldn't return a kick more than five yards.

So? As QB he needs to protect the ball. When you turnover the ball - you lose games. The team played well enough to win, Burris' turnovers cost them.

[moon]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

So? As QB he needs to protect the ball. When you turnover the ball - you lose games. The team played well enough to win, Burris' turnovers cost them.

Burris played well enough to win and the defense and special teams cost him.

When you can't stop the other team from running the ball at will on you, you lose games.

[moon]

Originally Posted by itcrossedtheline

It was also Burris that was responsible for all the stamps turnovers i believe - 3 picks and 2 fumbles

Can the Stamps really do any better with smith in there? Not sure, but they can't do much worse

Much worse than 2-3, with a close lose to the best team in the CFL?

I am sure they could do much worse with him in there. In fact they have done much worse in the time that Smith hasn't spent in the game.

[henriksedin33]

Burris is TERRIBLE imo, I can't believe they kept him after last years playoff performance.

He must have think Shaq and Yao Ming was his receivers. It is sad because I always think Burris is one of the best QB in the CFL if he plays consistently and not make any bad decisions.

and LOL, this was in a NEWSPAPER?!?!

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Fire

Where is Printers these days? Trying out for the NFL? If he's comes available I would be disappointed if they don't go after him hard.

Printers is pretty much pencilled in to be the number 3 Quarterback in Kansas City this year with them moving Trent Green out. They even made their number 2 Tight End Inactive last year so that they could move Printers onto the active roster to avoid having him stolen off their practice roster by another team during the winter. IMO he won't be available to be in the CFL anytime soon.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by moon

Burris played well enough to win and the defense and special teams cost him.

When you can't stop the other team from running the ball at will on you, you lose games.

Turnovers don't cost you games like not stopping the run does. You can win all other fascets of a contest, but if you turnover the ball consistently you won't win. Just look at the number of points the Leos scored off of turnovers and it tells the entire story of the game.

[moon]

The turnovers definately hurt but if all people do is focus on that and put the blame on that they miss the fact that our defense was very poor when we needed them to come up big, were completely ineffective versus the run and has been awful on the road this year. The special teams has been brutal all year long.

Sure Burris wasn't great but there are bigger issues and more important areas to address than the QB position.

Burris is far from holding this team back form winning games. Unless the defense and special teams pick it up we won't win whether we have 0 or 10 turnovers.

[JiriHrdina]

I guess we'll agree to disagree. The most important factor in football is protecting the ball. The person most in control of doing that is the QB. I don't think there is a single more pressing thing holding this team back other than its quarterback's ongoing inability NOT to make stupid decisions.

[itcrossedtheline]

Originally Posted by moon

The turnovers definately hurt but if all people do is focus on that and put the blame on that they miss the fact that our defense was very poor when we needed them to come up big, were completely ineffective versus the run and has been awful on the road this year. The special teams has been brutal all year long.

Sure Burris wasn't great but there are bigger issues and more important areas to address than the QB position.

Burris is far from holding this team back form winning games. Unless the defense and special teams pick it up we won't win whether we have 0 or 10 turnovers.

You can look at it from that perspective or from the point of view that turnovers will always lead to the stamps defense being forced to remain on the field. turnovers lead to short drives which places extra pressure on your defense.

I'm not saying the D isn't responsible for some of this, but a fumble by burris before the half, the overthrow when copeland was wide open in the endzone and the interception to begin the third are directly the fault of Burris. It's hard not to argue that fact.

It seems as though a majority of people including the CBC crew seem to analyze Burris' performance with rose coloured glasses. Yesterday was a fine example, they (media) tend to focus on Burris leading the team back, but he put the team in the losing position they were in and for some reason they don't focus on that. He hasn't lived up to his salary expectations yet and i personally don't think he ever will.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by moon

Burris played well enough to win and the defense and special teams cost him.

When you can't stop the other team from running the ball at will on you, you lose games.

It's true the defense and special teams couldn't stop the other team but when the game was still close Burris threw on interception on double coverage at the end zone. The Stamps could have at least scored 3 or 7 points at that time.

It was also Burris who turned over the ball (i can't remember if it was a fumble or INT). BC Lions scored on that drive. I know football is a team game and we shouldn't blame one person for a loss but they lost mostly on bad decision-making. Burris can definitely run the ball and gain lots of yardage when have to BUT tucked in the football. He seems to be forcing things and trying to save the world by himself. When that happens, he makes mistakes. He's got tons of arsenal on the team so he should use it and not try to win by himself. Oh yeah, the ref didn't help either with pass interference call against Calgary and a non-call pass interference against BC. Boerigter was practically mugged on that play.

As for Akili Smith, yes he was brutal when he came in on the two games in relief but we have to try the guy as a starter and see what he can do. With all the practices and preparations as a starter, he might do well. If he doesn't then pull him out when he started making mistakes then get rid of him after. The only QB with CFL experience in the NFL is Casey Printer but he won't be available for the Stamps. I don't know the other options if Smith bombs as well other than put back Burris and pray he'll learn from his early mistakes and start playing well.