2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[GioforPM]

IIRC the names people talked about in 2025 around the Honzek pick were Moore and Barlow and neither of those guys has done much. Moore got a few assists in garbage time last season as a late NCAA addition but didn't even make Chicago this year (he's doing fine in Rockford so far though). Barlow hasn't done anything. One assist in 4 AHL games this season.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

IIRC the names people talked about in 2025 around the Honzek pick were Moore and Barlow and neither of those guys has done much. Moore got a few assists in garbage time last season as a late NCAA addition but didn't even make Chicago this year (he's doing fine in Rockford so far though). Barlow hasn't done anything. One assist in 4 AHL games this season.

Here's the poll. I can't recall why we didn't include more names. Honzek wasn't in the poll, that included 7 names. Honzek was #8 on the expanded list but wasn't included.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...ighlight=Moore

The top 2 choices (Danielson and Wood) went before the Flames pick.
In fact of the 7 names, 4 (Danielson, Wood, Yager, Simashev) went before 16.

So the poll kinda ended up being rather useless!

[dino7c]

Honzek looks to be a late bloomer

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

And it's early days but there aren't a ton of clear home run picks after Honzek. I think there are guys with more upside (ASP, Perreault) but those guys have a lot of questions about whether there offense will translate to the NHL.

Given the lack of centres all things being equal, I likely would rather have Ritchie but that's still no certain.

Yeah it's just the reality of picking in the teens/twenties of the first round. No guarantee you even get a regular NHL player out of the pick. It's why it's probably for the best that the Flames have a tough 25/26 season so they can increase their odds of getting something more.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

IIRC the names people talked about in 2025 around the Honzek pick were Moore and Barlow and neither of those guys has done much. Moore got a few assists in garbage time last season as a late NCAA addition but didn't even make Chicago this year (he's doing fine in Rockford so far though). Barlow hasn't done anything. One assist in 4 AHL games this season.

Sandin-Pellikka was the guy I thought we were going to take. Cal Ritchie was also talked about if IIRC

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

IIRC the names people talked about in 2025 around the Honzek pick were Moore and Barlow and neither of those guys has done much. Moore got a few assists in garbage time last season as a late NCAA addition but didn't even make Chicago this year (he's doing fine in Rockford so far though). Barlow hasn't done anything. One assist in 4 AHL games this season.

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They have the same NHL points. Bruzer has something like 22 more AHL games and 14 more points. Partly because Honzek made the NHL two years running out of camp.

Bruzer is playing very well in the A, no doubt. So is Honzek right now, just in the NHL.

Can you not see that you are obviously preferentially selecting specific Honzek instances while dismissing other players instances as "garbage time" or whatever?
Honzek played in garbage time last year and did absolutely nothing...

Moore, Barlow, Ritchie, Sandin-Pelikka, Perrault, Owen Beck, Otto Stenberg all drafted after Honzek and have better AHL stats (some also have better limited NHL stats too, though less games played lol.)

I'm not even saying Honzek is bad, I didn't make that claim. I just think it's inaccurate to claim that his 10GP somehow positions him as a top example of his draft class.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Honzek looks to be a late bloomer

I've liked the way he has played with Backs and Coleman.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Honzek looks to be a late bloomer

What indications do you have that he will bloom?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Can you not see that you are obviously preferentially selecting specific Honzek instances while dismissing other players instances as "garbage time" or whatever?
Honzek played in garbage time last year and did absolutely nothing...

Moore, Barlow, Ritchie, Sandin-Pelikka, Perrault, Owen Beck, Otto Stenberg all drafted after Honzek and have better AHL stats (some also have better limited NHL stats too, though less games played lol.)

I'm not even saying Honzek is bad, I didn't make that claim. I just think it's inaccurate to claim that his 10GP somehow positions him as a top example of his draft class.

At this point it's too early to tell but the only 2 that I think I clearly would want before Honzek are ASP and maybe Ritchie.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Can you not see that you are obviously preferentially selecting specific Honzek instances while dismissing other players instances as "garbage time" or whatever?
Honzek played in garbage time last year and did absolutely nothing...

Moore, Barlow, Ritchie, Sandin-Pelikka, Perrault, Owen Beck, Otto Stenberg all drafted after Honzek and have better AHL stats (some also have better limited NHL stats too, though less games played lol.)

I'm not even saying Honzek is bad, I didn't make that claim. I just think it's inaccurate to claim that his 10GP somehow positions him as a top example of his draft class.

Honzek played 5 games in the NHL at the beginning of the season. Hardly garbage time.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Can you not see that you are obviously preferentially selecting specific Honzek instances while dismissing other players instances as "garbage time" or whatever?
Honzek played in garbage time last year and did absolutely nothing...

Moore, Barlow, Ritchie, Sandin-Pelikka, Perrault, Owen Beck, Otto Stenberg all drafted after Honzek and have better AHL stats (some also have better limited NHL stats too, though less games played lol.)

I'm not even saying Honzek is bad, I didn't make that claim. I just think it's inaccurate to claim that his 10GP somehow positions him as a top example of his draft class.

No one claimed that. They brought up the games played as evidence (the best and only evidence we currently have) that it is laughable to call him 'a mistake'.

I mean, you criticized others for using that small sample size as silly, then you immediately did the same thing by comparing his point totals to Brzustewicz. You don't have to come in and #### all over every post that says anything positive about the organization.

[Harry Lime]

The Tampa Bay situation is very interesting. The main problem seems to be that the fourth line is a black hole. Zirgensons should be the 13th forward. What they want to do is be able to balance the lineup better and take some pressure off of the top six.

Calgary is perfect for this type of trade. We can literally do Coleman (50%), one more bottom six that is expendable (Kirkland type) and a prospect to build their pool that doesn't fit Calgary's plans (Stromgen type). They could drop two of their fourth line immediately.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

What indications do you have that he will bloom?

He is playing well right now, substantially better than he did last season in the NHL

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

But the chances of getting a player of Svech's quality with a late 1st is very slim. VERY slim. So why does that make sense?

So we can conitnue to build our prospect pool, especially in positions of need, to align with our real window of contention.


Or if gives use capital to use in a trade for an actual position of need.


We already have Farabee and Sharangovich locked up from that same draft class as middle 6 wingers. Plus all the other winger bloat right now. Why do we need another.


If there was a winger change of scenery trade, sure, but im not giving futures up for Svech right now.
That's not moves the flames should be making right now.

[Tacoman]

The guy I'd target out of Tampa is Conor Geekie. They got him from the Mammoth in the Sergachev trade. 6'4" centre with skill who's 21 years old. They just sent him to the AHL this week but I was really impressed with him last year when I watched hiim. May have hockey IQ problems is what I've heard the downside is.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Can you not see that you are obviously preferentially selecting specific Honzek instances while dismissing other players instances as "garbage time" or whatever?
Honzek played in garbage time last year and did absolutely nothing...

Moore, Barlow, Ritchie, Sandin-Pelikka, Perrault, Owen Beck, Otto Stenberg all drafted after Honzek and have better AHL stats (some also have better limited NHL stats too, though less games played lol.)

I'm not even saying Honzek is bad, I didn't make that claim. I just think it's inaccurate to claim that his 10GP somehow positions him as a top example of his draft class.

Are not some of your claims slanted as well saying they have better AHL stats when the sample size is so tiny?

Owen Beck was drafted in 2022 so not relevant here.
Moore looks good early in the AHL. I think he's an intriguing prospect because of his elite speed.
ASP has 1 point in 2 AHL games and 1 goal in 6 NHL games. Not much to go on. Not sure if he's the next David Rundblad or someone who can actually deliver at the NHL level.
Stenberg's first AHL season wasn't much better than Honzek.
Perreault has 3 AHL games in total.

Can we just not admit that right now we don't really have enough information either way?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by traptor

So we can conitnue to build our prospect pool, especially in positions of need, to align with our real window of contention.


Or if gives use capital to use in a trade for an actual position of need.


We already have Farabee and Sharangovich locked up from that same draft class as middle 6 wingers. Plus all the other winger bloat right now. Why do we need another.


If there was a winger change of scenery trade, sure, but im not giving futures up for Svech right now.
That's not moves the flames should be making right now.

Depends on those futures.
Would I do something like Mews and the Vegas 1st (which Carolina wouldn't do anyways but for the sake of this discussion). All day. Every day.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Can we just not admit that right now we don't really have enough information either way?

Yes, I am happy to agree to this, but I maintain that rating Honzek as 'better' or saying he's performing better because he's played more NHL games is silly.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

You don't have to come in and #### all over every post that says anything positive about the organization.

Never change, Enoch!

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

You don't have to come in and #### all over every post that says anything positive about the organization.

Yes, actually, I think he does.