Underperformers

[FBI]

Hooo boy, who are our worst underperformers so far? There sure a lot to choose from.

Sharangovich- office space meme uh what would you say you do here? Scratch time.

Zary - where’s the dynamic guy we saw?

Wolf - not really his fault though.

Hanley - rough start
Bahl - rough start
Andersson - 1 pt in 6 games?
Weegar - rough start

Kadri - no goals in 6 games, ok other than that

Bean/Pachal/Miromanov - None of these guys have done anything..

Huska - Woof

Basically NONE of our D have been any good. So why not give Parekh more opportunity? ESPECIALLY PP1

Blah. What an underperforming team.

[Bonded]

Underperforming or just reverting to where they should have been last season? Roster isn’t that good

[Itse]

The guys know losing is probably longterm better for the team. Underperforming is understandable.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Underperforming or just reverting to where they should have been last season? Roster isn’t that good

They're still underperforming, especially as a cohesive team. It doesn't take a lot of talent to play defense, they're just not doing it.

The offense is maybe a little more about talent, but they're still not doing much at all out there, and I do think they're underperforming across the board.

Honestly, I hate to say it, but the fact that everyone on the team looks so disjointed is on Huska. He needs to right the ship a little here soon. Can't keep getting embarrassed on a nightly basis. You might still lose, but the effort and commitment to defense has to be there.

[Zoller]

Last season was overperforming

Maybe this is just a revert to the norm

[Goriders]

Shorter list would be over performers

Huberdeau based on 1 game
Farabee even though he’s a plug
Frost
Cooley
Klapka/Lombo because it looks like they care
Backlund/Coleman most games
Honzek

The rest have ranged from below historic performance to complete garbage

I’d give it to game 10 and revamp the priorities for the season. If they lose the next 4 they will be out of the playoffs. I’d change my priorities to:

- playing Parekh as much as possible regardless of the defensive issues. He has to get more ice time to really develop
- move Parekh to PP1
- do everything in my power to launch Sharangovich into the sun
- launch Miromanov as well
- bring up Kuznetsov
- bring Gridin back up and give him and Honzek tons of ice time
- play Cooley more so Wolf doesn’t lose all of his confidence
- talk to every vet (Coleman, Kadri, Weegar, Andersson, Huberdeau) to figure out who wants to leave. Look at getting rid of them at the deadline
- look at moving or waving Bean to bring up Brzustewicz and Grushnikov on a rotation
- look ar moving or waving Kirkland to bring up Kerins

If things don’t turn around essentially switch to full on development mode for the arena opening. It will probably steer you towards the top of the draft as well.

[Macindoc]

There’s a new forechecking system, a new PP, and a new PK. Personally, I don’t like the changes, but especially with the compressed schedule at the start of this season, it may take 20 games to see whether these changes, when properly implemented, are an improvement.

[Strange Brew]

Huberdeau and Cooley are the only over performers I can name right now. Maybe because they have the lowest sample size!
Lomberg doing his job. Klapka too.
Coleman, Backlund OK.
A guy like Farabee has looked good, but also has zero goals with a lot of premium ice time.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

There’s a new forechecking system, a new PP, and a new PK. Personally, I don’t like the changes, but especially with the compressed schedule at the start of this season, it may take 20 games to see whether these changes, when properly implemented, are an improvement.

Weird, if the stated goal is make he playoffs and such system changes take so long to fully implement, then why do them all at once?

More bad decision making IMO.

If Huska believes last year was indicative of the team's potential, he should have made tweaks, not wholesale changes that could not be fully implemented in the pre-season.

Or did he even think that far?

[GullFoss]

If they can over perform like last year, they can under perform like this year. Enjoy it imo. This was the hope. The rebuild probably ends in the late 2020s as the 2 franchise players yet to be drafted hit stride

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Weird, if the stated goal is make he playoffs and such system changes take so long to fully implement, then why do them all at once?

More bad decision making IMO.

If Huska believes last year was indicative of the team's potential, he should have made tweaks, not wholesale changes that could not be fully implemented in the pre-season.

Or did he even think that far?

I'm not defending the changes. I don't like them. But I'm being realistic about the timeframe in which they should be evaluated.

[Rejean31]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

There’s a new forechecking system, a new PP, and a new PK. Personally, I don’t like the changes, but especially with the compressed schedule at the start of this season, it may take 20 games to see whether these changes, when properly implemented, are an improvement.

I'm struggling to understand if we came within a whisker of the playoffs last year, THEN WHY CHANGE THE SYSTEMS???? Just an absolutely stupid decision on someone's part. Yeah, things worked pretty well last season. Well, we can't have that. Lets change everything.

[bettercallbettman]

Kadri. He refuses to leave tho.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

I'm struggling to understand if we came within a whisker of the playoffs last year, THEN WHY CHANGE THE SYSTEMS???? Just an absolutely stupid decision on someone's part. Yeah, things worked pretty well last season. Well, we can't have that. Lets change everything.

Maybe the plan is to tank without actually saying it in public. Or maybe they just thought Wolf was going to be superhuman and what the team was doing in front of him didn't matter.

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Weird, if the stated goal is make he playoffs and such system changes take so long to fully implement, then why do them all at once?

Perhaps the stated goal isn't the true goal?

[kehatch]

I don't agree with many of the guys on your list.

• Zary gas been decent with the minutes he has been given.
• Wolf has taken a step back, but I don't see any goalies being effective with the way the Flames have been playing.
• Bahl has played pretty well in my opinion, but he was miscast as a top 4 to begin with and Andersson has taken a step back.
• You can say the same thing about Hanley, minus being decent.
• Huska's claim to fame was getting a group of NHL players commit to an AHL system and work their tails off. He was never a great overall coach.
• A lot of the depth guys listed are just not very good.

The big under performers in my opinion are Sharongovich, Weegar, and Andersson. Honorable mention to Kadri who has looked a bit lost most nights. The rest are performing tobreasonable expectations. I think some expectations might be unreasonable due to last season being an outlier.

[iamca]

Agreed on the D, none of those 3 are full time NHLers.

I think Zary needs to be on a different line where he can hopefully use his play making skills.

Sharky needs to sit now. If he doesn’t respond, send him down to the AHL. He is a major liability and with a ridiculous extension in place.

Honzek has shown some great flashes out there and needs to be rewarded for his effort.

Huska has been frustrating with some of his coaching decisions this season, especially ice time for some of these underperforming players, PP personnel, and I’ll say it, overplaying Wolf.


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[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

I'm struggling to understand if we came within a whisker of the playoffs last year, THEN WHY CHANGE THE SYSTEMS???? Just an absolutely stupid decision on someone's part. Yeah, things worked pretty well last season. Well, we can't have that. Lets change everything.

Because as an organization, you're always looking to improve?

If you won the cup, or were right there knocking on the door, then sure, roll the same thing out there next year. But when you're a transitional team that is in the middle of a retool, that seems like the perfect time to re-evaluate everything, IMO.

I have said it a hundred times, and reading these threads today, I keep seeing it over and over - Canadian fans are way too impatient.

Hanley was great last year - 5 games into a season where no one has played well, and fans want to fire him into the sun. Same with a handful of others, the coach, the PP coach, the PK coach...

Chill people - rebuilds take time and the team is going to suck throughout it.

[BigThief]

Wolf has been totally fine, he's doing it all on his own. Mckenzie Weeger's built up a lot of good will with the fan base over the last four years but his play to start the season is plain ol' ugly. -8 in six games and already twenty minutes in penalties.

With the playoffs already out of sight I hope they start playing Wolf less. Give him "easier" games and make sure we don't break his confidence on this bad team in any way.

[FlamesAddiction]

You can't blame Wolf for any of the losses. He has been average, but he also hasn't been given much support and at times has been completely hung out to dry. Underperforming by his standards probably, but those standards are also really high. I don't expect him to remain average.

It's not that different than most of the losses Vladar had last season. This team with average goaltending is below average overall.