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				Which picks and prospects did they trade for yegor? 
			
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They undoubtedly took less futures in that Toffoli trade to get Sharangovich, but yes, technically correct - he spent no futures on ‘em.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:36 PM
			
			
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			Our players can't even hit the net.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:37 PM
			
			
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				Look at what Eichel does. 
 
You telling me we don’t need an Eichel? 
 
Tank. Tank. Tank. 
			
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Was it Valimaki that Tre refused to part with in a trade for Eichel?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:37 PM
			
			
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				Which picks and prospects did they trade for yegor? 
			
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Did NJD get a 1st for Toff that year or was it a 2nd?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:37 PM
			
			
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				No no. It's just like American politics. The arguing never stops, the power just swings to the other side. 
			
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The Jays thread is an interesting contrast. There are disagreements but it is largely a group of fans watching and commenting on the games in real time. Things get heated and testy and times but not to the toxic levels of these game threads. Everyone is there to cheer on their team
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:37 PM
			
			
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				As usual, whoever scouted Farabee and Frost should be shot 
Farabee has negative value now 
And Frost only slightly better 
			
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When was the last time the scout has a good pick?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:37 PM
			
			
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				As usual, whoever scouted Farabee and Frost should be shot 
Farabee has negative value now 
And Frost only slightly better 
			
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No, I was told Farabee actually looks great this year. 
 
He has to be one of the most useless players I have ever seen. He does nothing well except try hard.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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					Originally Posted by  gvitaly
					 
				 
				Did NJD get a 1st for Toff that year or was it a 2nd? 
			
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2024-Mar-08 Traded from New Jersey Devils to Winnipeg Jets for round 3 pick in the 2024 draft (Herman Traff) and round 2 pick in the 2025 draft (Lasse Boelius)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:37 PM
			
			
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			10-18-2025, 10:38 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Manhattanboy
					 
				 
				Was it Valimaki that Tre refused to part with in a trade for Eichel? 
			
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No that was the Stone trade 
The Eichel trade reportedly had Tkachuk going the other way
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:38 PM
			
			
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				Did NJD get a 1st for Toff that year or was it a 2nd? 
			
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3rd IIRC. 
 
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			10-18-2025, 10:38 PM
			
			
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				You mean like we did for Frost , Farabee and Sharangovich….. 
 
Great asset management ! Can’t have enough “depth” to build a winning culture ! 
			
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No I mean like we did with Gridin, Brzustewicz, Misa, Jamieson, Stockselius, Potter, Battaglia, Grushnikov, Reschny, the Vegas 2026 1st, Canucks 2026 3rd. Some of those assets we could move for players that can play now if we were not in the biggest tear it down rebuild in salary cap history.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:39 PM
			
			
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				2024-Mar-08 Traded from New Jersey Devils to Winnipeg Jets for round 3 pick in the 2024 draft (Herman Traff) and round 2 pick in the 2025 draft (Lasse Boelius) 
			
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So arguably Sharangovich cost a 2nd. Which is a fair price IMO. Especially since we got a 2nd for Mangiapane.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			it's hard to fathom how bad sharangovich is
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:39 PM
			
			
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			They need all these players to accomplish what must be done this year.  
 
You'll all be grateful we traded for these struggling journeymen when the organization is sitting on an elite forward talent in the summer.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:40 PM
			
			
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				So arguably Sharangovich cost a 2nd. Which is a fair price IMO. Especially since we got a 2nd for Mangiapane. 
			
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Agreed 
And the third they got also was used to take Suniev which may end up being the more important piece
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:40 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Aarongavey
					 
				 
				No I mean like we did with Gridin, Brzustewicz, Misa, Jamieson, Stockselius, Potter, Battaglia, Grushnikov, Reschny, the Vegas 2026 1st, Canucks 2026 3rd. Some of those assets we could move for players that can play now if we were not in the biggest tear it down rebuild in salary cap history. 
			
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We didn't tear it down enough.
 
We should trade Kadri and Weegar for assets. And waive Sharo, Hanley, Farabee and let the kids play.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:41 PM
			
			
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			Finally Flames tanking properly with elite talent in upcoming draft. A sophomore slump by Wolf and a lottery pick is all but guaranteed.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:41 PM
			
			
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				So arguably Sharangovich cost a 2nd. Which is a fair price IMO. Especially since we got a 2nd for Mangiapane. 
			
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I would take the 2nd in a heart beat. I'd take a 5th round hail mary pick for him at this point.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-18-2025, 10:41 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Jiri Hrdina
					 
				 
				2024-Mar-08 Traded from New Jersey Devils to Winnipeg Jets for round 3 pick in the 2024 draft (Herman Traff) and round 2 pick in the 2025 draft (Lasse Boelius) 
			
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So effectively an extra 2nd round pick instead of Shag plus a year of Toffoli 
 
So we gave up a 2nd (Toff) , 2nd (Frost trade ) and 3rd (What Kuzmenko was traded for )
 
For the pleasure of paying 15 million a year for multiple years for 3 players that best case are post apex when we’re contending 
 
But hey I guess pointing this out makes me a troll !
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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