[Rumour] Flames interested in Egor Zamula?

[Yrebmi]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Not quite as big as Big Z, but not as small as Little Z. I'll call him Medium Z.

Mid-Z

Edit or E-Z

[Badgers Nose]

Source probably has sources inside PHI and they are probably trying to send this guy to us for something.

We have Kuz, bring him up, just waive Bean and Miro (or take any pick you can get for either of them, if someone is crazy enough to offer that).

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Muta

Sportsnet radio. Also...

"HE'S A MINUS PLAYER! HE'S BEEN IN THE PRESSBOX TWICE!!!!!"

-1 over three games, being eased into the Avalanche system playing manageable minutes

lol

Yeah, losing him for nothing is starting to look like a stupid mistake.

Lots of stupid little mistakes starting to add up in Flames land.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Muta

Sportsnet radio. Also...

"HE'S A MINUS PLAYER! HE'S BEEN IN THE PRESSBOX TWICE!!!!!"

-1 over three games, being eased into the Avalanche system playing manageable minutes

lol

I mean if you are going to say "of couse he's playing great"

He is the 6th or 7th dman...has no stats. Guy is 25 and a UFA at seasons end. Is he slightly better than Miro? sure I guess. Not the one that got away. He is playing 10 mins a game when he gets in...basically a placeholder. There were 20 guys like him on waivers.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I mean if you are going to say "of couse he's playing great"

He is the 6th or 7th dman...has basically no stats. Guy is 25 and a UFA at seasons end. Is he slightly better than Miro? sure I guess. Not the one that got away.

Def not the one that got away, but smart roster management would have kept him and found a way to lose Miro.

Even if they are all +/- 5% within each other's talent range, it's nice to see a kid develop and reach the NHL with the team that drafted him. Especially if there is no one better ahead on the depth chart.

We lost mid with no NHL experience for mid with lots of NHL experience. I guess we really want NHL experience? Has the experience made Miro any better? Not really. He is Bouchard w/o the offense.

[iggyloob12]

Call me a skeptic if our pro scouts like him.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I mean if you are going to say "of couse he's playing great"

He is the 6th or 7th dman...has basically no stats. Guy is 25 and a UFA at seasons end. Is he slightly better than Miro? sure I guess. Not the one that got away.

In case you missed the point, waiving Solo and keeping Miro was a dumb, head scratching decision. Younger, cheaper, better (and more than 'slightly'). Good enough for recent Stanley Cup Champions, but not good enough for the team that hasn't made the playoffs in three years. I see. 'Always earned, never given' indeed.

[TheScorpion]

This is not a season to save. This is a season to sacrifice. Zamula, Solovyov, Miromanov are all different flavours of the same guy. Ride with who you've got and see what happens.

[Badgers Nose]

Yeah a little tweak trade like this is super stupid

[Royle9]

Posted in the other thread but saving it here.
TLDR this "rumour" makes no sense:

Guess Solo and Kuznetsov aren't young enough LHS defensive minded D men with size?
They gave up Solo for nothing by keeping both Bean and Miro who are now basically waiver fodder.
Kuznetsov sent back to the Wranglers, but he's been steady for them for a few seasons now.
23 - 6'5 and 220 - LHS

That's a weird post to me.

The only other LHS they were interested in prior to the start of the year was Byram.. but he's more 2way/leaning towards offensive than a stay at home guy.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Muta

In case you missed the point, waiving Solo and keeping Miro was a dumb, head scratching decision. Younger, cheaper, better (and more than 'slightly'). Good enough for recent Stanley Cup Champions, but not good enough for the team that hasn't made the playoffs in three years. I see. 'Always earned, never given' indeed.

He is a couple years younger and a pending UFA...its actually pretty irrelevent. Some of you just love getting mad about basically nothing.

The rest of the league passed on him too...guy would probably be better off getting top minutes in the AHL which was the plan its not head scratching. Now he plays 10 mins a night or eats popcorn.

Flames took a small risk to try and get him top AHL mintues, didn't work out but its really not going to effect the Flames short or long term.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by dino7c

He is a couple years younger and a pending UFA...its actually pretty irrelevent. Some of you just love getting mad about basically nothing.

The rest of the league passed on him too...guy would probably be better off getting top minutes in the AHL which was the plan its not head scratching. Now he plays 10 mins a night or eats popcorn.

Flames took a small risk to try and get him top AHL mintues, didn't work out but its really not going to effect the Flames short or long term.

Spin it all you want, ditching Solo to retain Miro was as head scratching then as it is now. Solo is literally more valuable in every way. Bad asset management is bad asset management no matter how big or small; it's okay to admit it too.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Muta

In case you missed the point, waiving Solo and keeping Miro was a dumb, head scratching decision. Younger, cheaper, better (and more than 'slightly'). Good enough for recent Stanley Cup Champions, but not good enough for the team that hasn't made the playoffs in three years. I see. 'Always earned, never given' indeed.

I think they made the decision that Solo wasn't getting 65 games and none of Miromanov, Bean, or Soloyov were in the long term plans

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Muta

Spin it all you want, ditching Solo to retain Miro was as head scratching then as it is now. Solo is literally more valuable in every way. Bad asset management is bad asset management no matter how big or small; it's okay to admit it too.

Its not really head scratching though if you actually look at it. They tried to get him to the AHL to play big minutes...they don't care if Miro is in the pressbox every game but one.

You can get a similar asset free at basically any time on waivers. If he was such an asset the Sharks should have claimed him, bad asset management for them they could have had him free and now they have nothing.

See how that works? Its not bad asset management if the asset has no value.

[Jason14h]

When you need to lose and get that #1 pick every small downgrade counts !

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Ped

Zamula is reportedly off to a terrible start with the Flyers, but it is a new coach and new system.

I don't think it's a terrible start per se. He had a bad game against Carolina, and was scratched after. It's too small of a sample size to draw any conclusions.

I don't think he's a clear upgrade on either Hanley, Pachal, or Kuznetsov. That said, if the only tool you have is a hammer, it is tempting to treat everything as if it were a nail. I think it's the case of Conroy looking for another Bahl as a partner for Parekh and then Brzustewicz.

IMO, the Flames need more goals, and a faster game, not a stay at home bottom pair D that's slower than both Pachal and Hanley.

[GioforPM]

I am just not going to lose sleep over losing a guy who likely would never be more than a 6D to waivers, when the Flames have two more young D waiting in the minors anyway.

Flames took a calculated risk, and probably a lesser one than with Valimaki, who, last time I looked, was waived by Utah and then got injured after one game in the A.

Solo is 25, same age as Farabee, who some people here think has no upside. Same age as Bahl, a year younger than Pachal. And they've got 3-4 guys 22 or younger waiting to play. Plus Cicek who is also 25 and I think played well in preseason.

[Rhett44]

No thanks, not interested. We have a collection of defensemen that can't play already. Pass.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Bean and Miro.
For free.
Just take it.
No questions asked

You can even keep your future considerations.

[Poe969]

The Flames have too many goalies on one way contracts. They should trade for a young goalie.

Am I doing this right?