For All You Bottled Water Fans: Labels to Spell Out Aquafina Source - Tap Water

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

As Troutman always says in these threads...

Evian spelled backwards is naïve

Well, to be fair to Evian, I do understand that tests have shown them to have the most consistent standards of purity internationally. That may not make it worthwhile in Canada, but is something to consider when travelling in countries where drinking water is a concern and there are many local water brands that you're unfamiliar with.

[Sylvanfan]

I had heard that Dasani and Aquafina were the only two bottled waters that came from a reverse osmosis practice. The R.O. process is supposed to be able to turn most any water into a rather pure water. I have a R.O. system in my house for my drinking water and I use it for washing food, cooking with etc. I've had my water tested a few times and it always comes up as being pure.

[photon]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Well, to be fair to Evian, I do understand that tests have shown them to have the most consistent standards of purity internationally. That may not make it worthwhile in Canada, but is something to consider when travelling in countries where drinking water is a concern and there are many local water brands that you're unfamiliar with.

Yeah, one article said that 3 out of the 4 top selling countries for bottled water were places like Mexico and Brazil where drinking water can be a concern.

But with the US being in that group, there's no good reason for it other than marketing and people finding it more convenient to waste resources on something they already have; drinkable water.

[MelBridgeman]

Well i guess i can no longer use the bottled water industry as a reason why glaciers are receding in my anti-global warming tirades
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[Azure]

Bottled water is still good...I usually pick up a bottle or two before I workout.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

As Troutman always says in these threads...

Evian spelled backwards is naïve

You beat me too it. Bottled water is a scam.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by troutman

You beat me too it. Bottled water is a scam.

Yet...if it gets people to drink more water...good.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Azure

Yet...if it gets people to drink more water...good.

Does the benifits of drinking more water outweigh the negatives of the landfills filled with billions of discarded bottles, the huge amount of pollution created?

And what benifits are those? While everyone talks about 8 glasses a day, I've never actually seen any scientific studies that give real evidence that drinking more than just "when you're thirsty" is any benifit.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by photon

Does the benifits of drinking more water outweigh the negatives of the landfills filled with billions of discarded bottles, the huge amount of pollution created?

And what benifits are those? While everyone talks about 8 glasses a day, I've never actually seen any scientific studies that give real evidence that drinking more than just "when you're thirsty" is any benifit.

Don't forget the energy that is used to produce those plastic bottles.

As for the 8 glasses a day......

It's a myth.

http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp

[jammies]

I drink bottled because I don't like the hint of chlorine/flouride in Calgary's municipal water, which, oddly enough, seems more intense when the water is very cold as opposed to when it comes out of the tap. I used to refill my bottles and refrigerate them, but I stopped due to that more noticable chemical undertaste.

I drink Aquafina quite a bit (I like Evian too, but the extra expense doesn't seem justified), and I already knew they used tap water to make it; however, since it is PROCESSED after that, I really don't see what difference that makes. It's not like they are pouring it straight out of the tap into the bottles; I think labelling the bottles as "sourced from municipal water supplies" is less accurate than what is on the bottle right now in front of me, "Demineralized Treated Water".

PS - Aquafina still has a flouride content of .3 ppm, which is about a third of the Calgary water supplies 1 ppm content. So if you're looking for non-flouridated water, spring water is what you want, although if you look on this page http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=521352 you will see that spring water may also contain flouride, which can occur naturally. Reverse osmosis is unable to remove all flouride ions due to their size; there is a nifty chart at http://www.freedrinkingwater.com/infocenter.htm that shows you common contaminants that are filtered out by different filtration processes.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by jammies

I drink bottled because I don't like the hint of chlorine/flouride in Calgary's municipal water, which, oddly enough, seems more intense when the water is very cold as opposed to when it comes out of the tap. I used to refill my bottles and refrigerate them, but I stopped due to that more noticable chemical undertaste.

I drink Aquafina quite a bit (I like Evian too, but the extra expense doesn't seem justified), and I already knew they used tap water to make it; however, since it is PROCESSED after that, I really don't see what difference that makes. It's not like they are pouring it straight out of the tap into the bottles; I think labelling the bottles as "sourced from municipal water supplies" is less accurate than what is on the bottle right now in front of me, "Demineralized Treated Water".

PS - Aquafina still has a flouride content of .3 ppm, which is about a third of the Calgary water supplies 1 ppm content. So if you're looking for non-flouridated water, spring water is what you want, although if you look on this page http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=521352 you will see that spring water may also contain flouride, which can occur naturally. Reverse osmosis is unable to remove all flouride ions due to their size; there is a nifty chart at http://www.freedrinkingwater.com/infocenter.htm that shows you common contaminants that are filtered out by different filtration processes.

Why not get a reverse osmosis system installed.

[Thor]

Like this is shocking. Bottled water is 'dead' water.

Drink out of your tap, cheaper, and better for you.

I think everyone should watch Penn & Teller's BS, be a good way to save money if you really do buy bottled water.

Cause I have some real estate in Nevada that is ocean view if you do

[Thor]

Originally Posted by jammies

I drink bottled because I don't like the hint of chlorine/flouride in Calgary's municipal water, which, oddly enough, seems more intense when the water is very cold as opposed to when it comes out of the tap. I used to refill my bottles and refrigerate them, but I stopped due to that more noticable chemical undertaste.

I drink Aquafina quite a bit (I like Evian too, but the extra expense doesn't seem justified), and I already knew they used tap water to make it; however, since it is PROCESSED after that, I really don't see what difference that makes. It's not like they are pouring it straight out of the tap into the bottles; I think labelling the bottles as "sourced from municipal water supplies" is less accurate than what is on the bottle right now in front of me, "Demineralized Treated Water".

PS - Aquafina still has a flouride content of .3 ppm, which is about a third of the Calgary water supplies 1 ppm content. So if you're looking for non-flouridated water, spring water is what you want, although if you look on this page http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=521352 you will see that spring water may also contain flouride, which can occur naturally. Reverse osmosis is unable to remove all flouride ions due to their size; there is a nifty chart at http://www.freedrinkingwater.com/infocenter.htm that shows you common contaminants that are filtered out by different filtration processes.

I could give you a taste test, 10 different 'brands' and tap water. You would not be able to figure out which is tap.

So accept you sillyness and stop wasting your money on bottled water.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by Thor

I could give you a taste test, 10 different 'brands' and tap water. You would not be able to figure out which is tap.

So accept you sillyness and stop wasting your money on bottled water.

I doubt that very much, at least not if you used Calgary tap water. It definitely has a chemical undertaste, nothing blatant, but there.

There might be some bottled water with that same taste, I suppose, but neither Evian nor Aquafina have that taste; Aquifina doesn't really taste like anything except water, Evian has a faint metallic tinge to it but I don't always notice it, probably depending on what other crap has gotten in my nose that day.

I'm sure there are many people who can't tell the difference. That doesn't mean that nobody can. I agree that anyone who drinks bottled water because it is safer, or healthier, or more natural, is crazy, but I couldn't care less about any of that, I just dislike the taste of chlorination.

Tomorrow I will do a blind taste test and see if I am right or wrong. I'll mark the bottles, then get my gf to pour me a glass out of each out of my sight, then have her bring me the glasses and I will tell her which is which. 6 trials should be enough to determine if I am crazy or not; I will need to get all 6 right, which has a 1/64 chance of happening at random.

PS - Also, the study that showed people preferred the NYC municipal water cannot be used to show there is no difference between the tastes of different waters; if that was so, then NO preference would have arisen thru the tests, not a preference for one type. Taste being partially subjective, it also doesn't mean that a particular person can't prefer the taste of a particular brand over other brands or the finest municipal bouquets, either.

PPS - I used to have a filtration system when I owned a condo; now I live in an apartment and while you can get countertop systems or install them under the sink, I am not spending my money to upgrade my landlord's water system. Maybe if I wasn't being gouged every 6 months to pay more and more rent in a building built back in the 60's...

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by photon

Does the benifits of drinking more water outweigh the negatives of the landfills filled with billions of discarded bottles, the huge amount of pollution created?

Why are the bottles going to the landfill? Does Calgary lack a recycling program?

Anyhow, I was watching a news clip with Margaret Trudeau (chairperson for WaterCan, a group dealing with Canadian and International water issues). She said that people should avoid drinking bottled water on social justice reasons. I'm not going to get the wording right, but the gist of it was that if people have a budget for bottled water they should switch it tap water and send the rest of the money to organizations helping sanitize dirty water sources in developing countries. Why are we sending our disposible income to Coca-cola when it could be used to help others? In third world countries 80% of all illnesses are related to a lack of clean drinking water.

I think the crux of it is that half the world would kill to have access to what comes comes out of our taps and many people here turn their nose up at it.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by Thor

I could give you a taste test, 10 different 'brands' and tap water. You would not be able to figure out which is tap.

Where would the tap water be from? I'm used to the tap water from Ottawa since I've grown up with it my whole life. I can't drink Calgary tap water because it tastes different to me. Heck, I can't even stand the smell of tap water from Florida and the taste of it almost makes me want to throw up.

But when it comes to bottled water I can't drink most of it either. The only bottled water I know that I like is Dasani because it tastes similiar to the tap water I'm used to. I might not be able to pick out the differences between the no-name bottled water and, say, Nestle bottled water but I could differentiate between them and Dasani or my local bottled water.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by photon

Does the benifits of drinking more water outweigh the negatives of the landfills filled with billions of discarded bottles, the huge amount of pollution created?

And what benifits are those? While everyone talks about 8 glasses a day, I've never actually seen any scientific studies that give real evidence that drinking more than just "when you're thirsty" is any benifit.

Its no secret that drinking a lot of water will increase your metabolism...

German researches reported that after test subjects drank two cups of water, their metabolism soared by 30% and stayed elevated for 30-40 minutes. That means that drinking 10-12 glasses of water a day can actually help you lose weight. What that means in for you and me is that drinking water while exercising will increase the calories you burn. Even better, after your exercise session is completed and you drink more water your body continues to burn calories. I'd say that's another great reason to keep drinking plenty of water.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Dion

Don't forget the energy that is used to produce those plastic bottles.

As for the 8 glasses a day......

It's a myth.

http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp

And that link has made drinking 8 glasses of water per day, or more, to stay healthy, lose weight, and avoid dehydration, a myth? Perhaps you should read it again....

75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated.

Because they don't drink enough water....8 glasses would be perfect....considering your urine becomes clear around 8-10 glasses, which would be a very viable sign that you are properly hydrated. Its not a myth.

[Azure]

Another site that explains the benefits of drinking lots of water...


http://www.bmhcc.org/health/healthie...ehydration.asp

I don't even understand why snopes would call the benefits of drinking lots of water a myth. A couple days ago in Winnipeg, I saw someone pass out right before my eyes because he didn't drink enough water. Sure you don't have to drink 20 glasses per day, but constantly sipping water throughout the WHOLE day will help. Especially in the hot weather. And frankly...I really don't give a shat what snopes calls a myth; I know drinking a lot of water has helped me lose weight...and I will continue to do so.

In other words....instead of eating something, I take a glass of water, put a lemon into it, and sip for a while, and my hunger disappears. And I'm sure anyone who has gone down the road of losing weight can also say that drinking water is VERY important.

[ken0042]

From what I recall seeing regarding the "8 glasses of water"; the gist of it is you need to consume that much water- but not all of it has to come in the form of clear water. For example a glass of juice counts towards that, water in food counts, etc.