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Old 10-12-2025, 01:24 PM   #11241
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I know some people don’t care, but…

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8482418plo

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Hamas has recalled about 7,000 members of its security forces to reassert control over areas of Gaza recently vacated by Israeli troops, according to local sources.
The Palestinian group also appointed five new governors all with military backgrounds, some of whom previously commanded brigades in its armed wing.
The mobilisation order was reportedly issued via phone calls and text messages which said the aim was to "cleanse Gaza of outlaws and collaborators with Israel" and told fighters to report within 24 hours.
Reports from Gaza suggest armed Hamas units have already deployed across several districts, some wearing civilian clothes and others in the blue uniforms of the Gaza police. The Hamas media office denied it was deploying "fighters in the streets".
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The Hamas mobilisation had been widely anticipated amid growing uncertainty about who will govern Gaza once the war ends.
This is a key issue that could complicate the start of the second phase of US President Donald Trump's peace plan, which calls for Hamas to disarm.
A Hamas official abroad declined to comment directly on reports of the security deployment, but told the BBC: "We cannot leave Gaza at the mercy of thieves and militias backed by the Israeli occupation. Our weapons are legitimate... to resist occupation, and they will remain as long as the occupation continues."
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"Hamas hasn't changed. It still believes that weapons and violence are the only means to keep its movement alive," he told the BBC.
"Gaza is flooded with arms. Looters have stolen thousands of weapons and rounds of ammunition from Hamas stores during the war, and some groups have even received supplies from Israel.
"This is a perfect recipe for civil war: weapons, frustration, chaos, and a movement desperate to reassert control over a shattered and exhausted population."
Khalil Abu Shammala, a human rights expert who lives in Gaza, said it remained to be seen whether Hamas would accept handing over control on the ground or seek to obstruct the plan's implementation.
"There is undoubtedly widespread fear among many Gazans of potential internal fighting, given the many conditions that could fuel it," he said.
He said Hamas had been forced to accept the peace plan by the severe pressure it was under.
"I believe its continued attempts to maintain influence by any means, including involvement in security affairs, could ultimately jeopardise the agreement and plunge Gaza's residents into even greater suffering," he said.
These developments since the ceasefire earlier this week have sparked deep concern among Gazans already worn down by two years of a devastating conflict.
Overall, this is a terrible situation the Palestinians are in. Hamas wants to continue to govern and suppress the population.

Obviously Israel should not be a part of any operations that helps to free the Palestinians from Hamas, but someone in the international community needs to do something.

Hamas needs to go.

The people in Gaza have no chance for a future as long as Hamas is there.
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Old 10-13-2025, 03:03 AM   #11243
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As of now, two years to the day (in the Jewish calendar) following the October 7 massacre, there are no living hostages in Hamas captivity. The remaining 20 living Israelis are finally back home.

Hostages Square in Tel-Aviv has been renamed Freed Square.
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The Palestinians are returning home, too. I guess everything is back to normal.

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None of this would have happened if it wasn't for Greta Thunberg.
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Old 10-13-2025, 09:18 AM   #11246
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The Palestinians are returning home, too. I guess everything is back to normal.

This is why I believe the Palestinian people need help. I am not just talking about the aid they need immediately, I am talking about long term.

I really doubt this conflict will actually end until Hamas is not in power in Gaza. Now is the time to be protesting for the people in Gaza. Free Palestine from Hamas.
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I know some people don’t care, but…
We do care, it's just that everyone figured out a hundred pages ago that "Israel must defeat Hamas once and for all" actually meant "Israel will kill a crap ton of innocent civilians and destroy their homes and businesses and Hamas will be just fine".

This was never the path to long term peace.
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Old 10-13-2025, 08:39 PM   #11248
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https://globalnews.ca/video/11476553...ated-ceasefire

Hostage prisoner exchange complete!!

Terrific news for those involved.

Im sceptical, but hopeful that there is lasting peace in the region.


Also, lol at Trump / Carney interaction. Quite funny.
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l'm sceptical, but hopeful that there is lasting peace in the region.
Asides from denying certain aspects of the genocide I'm not sure if I've ever heard your thoughts on it.

Are you repulsed by the deliberate mass murder of tens of thousands of civilians? Do you acknowledge that it's evil?
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Asides from denying certain aspects of the genocide I'm not sure if I've ever heard your thoughts on it.

Are you repulsed by the deliberate mass murder of tens of thousands of civilians? Do you acknowledge that it's evil?
I am certainly glad it’s over.

I’m no expert, but I’m sure there are many situations that Israel could have done better in how they attacked Hamas (if that’s what you are talking about?)

There is also no doubt that Hamas wanted to have a high number of civilian casualties, both Israeli civilians and Gaza citizens.

The war went on too long, but to have it drag on longer than it did would only mean more innocent lives lost.

I am truly hoping for long term peace in the region, but am sceptical that happens as long as Hamas is in power.


Are you happy the conflict is finally over, at least for now?
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I'm glad it's over.

Now we can focus on the genocidal crimes committed by Netanyahu and this Israeli regime.

But wait, there's probably going to be some other war declared soon. That's how this guy stays out of court!
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I am certainly glad it’s over.

I’m no expert, but I’m sure there are many situations that Israel could have done better in how they attacked Hamas (if that’s what you are talking about?)

There is also no doubt that Hamas wanted to have a high number of civilian casualties, both Israeli civilians and Gaza citizens.

The war went on too long, but to have it drag on longer than it did would only mean more innocent lives lost.

I am truly hoping for long term peace in the region, but am sceptical that happens as long as Hamas is in power.


Are you happy the conflict is finally over, at least for now?
How about Bibi and Israel? You suppose Hamas is the cause of war, yet seem to ignore there is another willing and active participant. From yesterday:

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Palestinian media reports on several settler attacks targeting Palestinian villages in different parts of the West Bank this evening.

In the village of Yabrud, east of Ramallah, settlers set fire to a vehicle and vandalized several others, according to the village council.

They also attempted to burn a home, but residents managed to quickly put out the fire. Windows of the building were smashed in the incident.

In another settler attack targeting Beit Fajjar, south of Bethlehem, five Palestinians were wounded, Quds News Network reports.

There are no reports of arrests, which are highly rare in such incidents, which take place on a near-daily basis.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...-in-west-bank/

We know for a fact Bibi and his govenrment support these settlers and give them aid so they can continue to terrorize and steal the land of Palestinians. Why is it you are only able to identify one side of the problem?

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Israeli authorities approved a new settlement plan on Sunday to confiscate 35 dunams (9 acres) of land from the Palestinian village of Kafr Qaddum, located east of Qalqilya in the occupied northern West Bank.

The Colonization and Wall Resistance Commission, which monitors settlement activities in the Palestinian territories, reported that the Israeli plan includes the construction of 58 new housing units at the Mitzpe Yeshai settlement, which is situated on the land of Kafr Qaddum.

Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories are a breach of international law and UN resolutions, hindering the potential for establishing a Palestinian state, the Wafa news agency said.
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2617853/middle-east

Gee, I wonder why they keep fighting...
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I am certainly glad it’s over.I’m no expert, but I’m sure there are many situations that Israel could have done better in how they attacked Hamas (if that’s what you are talking about?)
You're avoiding answering a very straightforward question.

I'm talking about, just to give a part of it, the deliberate mass murdering of children, infants and newborns.

Are you repulsed by it? Do you acknowledge its evilness?

Does genocide disgust you? Or is it a case of the committers of genocide "could have done better"?

I note you consider to call the deliberate mass murder of tens of thousands a "conflict".
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How about Bibi and Israel? You suppose Hamas is the cause of war, yet seem to ignore there is another willing and active participant. From yesterday:


https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...-in-west-bank/

We know for a fact Bibi and his govenrment support these settlers and give them aid so they can continue to terrorize and steal the land of Palestinians. Why is it you are only able to identify one side of the problem?


https://www.arabnews.com/node/2617853/middle-east

Gee, I wonder why they keep fighting...

That’s brutal. I do not support these settlers.
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You're avoiding answering a very straightforward question.

I'm talking about, just to give a part of it, the deliberate mass murdering of children, infants and newborns.

Are you repulsed by it? Do you acknowledge its evilness?

Does genocide disgust you? Or is it a case of the committers of genocide "could have done better"?

I note you consider to call the deliberate mass murder of tens of thousands a "conflict".
Like I have said before, one life lost due to this conflict is one too many. That’s also why I say it’s not too late to end the war and try to love forward. Any and all lives saved because of future actions are worth it.

Are you happy that the fighting has stopped, at least for now?
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Like I have said before, one life lost due to this conflict is one too many. That’s also why I say it’s not too late to end the war and try to love forward. Any and all lives saved because of future actions are worth it.

Are you happy that the fighting has stopped, at least for now?
Everyone's happy it's stopped except maybe the weirdos that were ok with it, excused it, or in your case denied certain aspects of it.

You're dancing around the question again. Simple yes or no.

Do you find Israel's deliberate mass murder of children repulsive and evil?

Yes or no?
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Old 10-14-2025, 09:46 AM   #11257
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I am certainly glad it’s over.

I’m no expert, but I’m sure there are many situations that Israel could have done better in how they attacked Hamas (if that’s what you are talking about?)

There is also no doubt that Hamas wanted to have a high number of civilian casualties, both Israeli civilians and Gaza citizens.

The war went on too long, but to have it drag on longer than it did would only mean more innocent lives lost.

I am truly hoping for long term peace in the region, but am sceptical that happens as long as Hamas is in power.


Are you happy the conflict is finally over, at least for now?
In how they attacked civilians, including children, women, aid workers, journalists, etc. Hundreds of thousands of them, and tens of thousands of them dead.

Still pushing the blame and the responsibility for peace off of Israel’s plate is a bit gross, considering. Hamas and Israel both came to the table for peace, both are responsible for the civilians they killed and not for the civilians killed by the other side, and both will ultimately determine whether this peace you’re suddenly very interested in talking about, despite ignoring and denying the human toll of this conflict caused by one side since it started, lasts.

You don’t need to ask every single person if they are happy, everyone is happy with peace. Grow up.
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Maybe it's the new thing this time around, so for the record, Yes, I condemn Hamas, and yes, I am happy that the IDF stopped their attempted genocide of Palestinians, bombing them into oblivion and killing mostly women and children civilians. Problem for me is Israeli leadership and their government will find a way to turn the killing machine back on. I can't see them not finishing the job they set out to do. I'll give them 6 months at most.
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In how they attacked civilians, including children, women, aid workers, journalists, etc. Hundreds of thousands of them, and tens of thousands of them dead.

Still pushing the blame and the responsibility for peace off of Israel’s plate is a bit gross, considering. Hamas and Israel both came to the table for peace, both are responsible for the civilians they killed and not for the civilians killed by the other side, and both will ultimately determine whether this peace you’re suddenly very interested in talking about, despite ignoring and denying the human toll of this conflict caused by one side since it started, lasts.

You don’t need to ask every single person if they are happy, everyone is happy with peace. Grow up.
What are you talking about. I have always hoped for peace in the region.

Grow up.
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The summary of the situation is that we have peace, but we still have war mongers in power on both sides of the conflict. So that peace feels temporary.

If Hamas and the ruling government of Israel were both overthrown out of this, that's' when it goes from happy there is peace for now to ecstatic that there is real hope. That real hope has been dead since Yitzhak Rabin still walked among us.
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