[Signing] Eichel signs extension with Vegas (8 yrs, $13.5 mil AAV)

[traptor]

Yeah Vegas is setup pretty nicely going forward.


We will have lots of cap going forward but no superstars to poach.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by blankall

Still flabbergasted that Kaprizov was holding out for more money, and then he got it. Thought for sure the hold up with his re-signing was Kaprizov wanting to play on a more competitive team.

Originally Posted by dino7c

Eichel could have got the Kaprizov as a UFA...this is like a 28M discount, the term is huge here

Kaprizov had Minnie over a barrel. They have some good players but he's the only marketable star. And he's better than Eichel. Plus Eichel isn't really the face of the Knights. That's still Stone.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Kaprizov had Minnie over a barrel. They have some good players but he's the only marketable star. And he's better than Eichel. Plus Eichel isn't really the face of the Knights. That's still Stone.

He also didnt go UFA
If Eichel got there and opened himself up to any team he could have got basically anything he wanted. Eichel is also a center.

Stone's days are numbered

[Steve's Stick]

Taxes -

Eichel's net is about 8.5M
Kaprizov's is 9M


You'd think the NHL would have to resolve this at some point.

Being clever with residence, Kaprizov's tax bill is probably less/net is more, but it remains material.

McDavid's net (assuming full year residency in AB is 6.5M)

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

With all these signings that Kaprizov deal looks dumber and dumber by the day.

The Wild couldn’t let him walk. And there are rumours that a team was floating $20 mil /year to Kaprizov.

Contenders usually get a discount to keep elite players. Mid-tier teams like the Wild don’t.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by traptor

Yeah Vegas is setup pretty nicely going forward.


We will have lots of cap going forward but no superstars to poach.

I'm not sure. The best players on Vegas are locked up long-term and are all currently 28-33. It's a great roster this year and next, but it is also one that could blow up and slow down big time as injuries and father time wreaks havoc. Same goes for the Oilers and Panthers.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by FlamesAreOne

Kaprizov is so far out in front of everyone lmao.

That's what you have to pay a guy to stay where he doesn't want to be though.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

He also didnt go UFA
If Eichel got there and opened himself up to any team he could have got basically anything he wanted. Eichel is also a center.

Stone's days are numbered

I just don't think much of Eichel. Kaprizov was leading the league in points when he went down.

It is fun that Eichel makes more than McDavid though.

[Muta]

Here's to an epic, legendary VGK collapse this year somehow. Give us that high first round draft pick!

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Going forward I expect free agency will be mostly tier 2 players and below as teams are locking up their best players over their prime years. Building through the draft is more important now than ever before.

Until the Flames new core is ready for UFA

[1qqaaz]

Another problem with the Kaprisov deal is that he's a winger.
It's generally better to pay centers than wingers IMO. Contending teams shouldn't have too much money on the wing - they can only do so much other than produce offense.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

That's what you have to pay a guy to stay where he doesn't want to be though.

Yup it's the combination of:

-Small, unfavorable market
- Team that hasn't won / hasn't been a contender
- Unfavorable tax situation
- Elite Player

Really Kaprizov had no reason to stay unless it was a complete overpay

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Going forward I expect free agency will be mostly tier 2 players and below as teams are locking up their best players over their prime years. Building through the draft is more important now than ever before.

Good.

Kane going to the Oiler's for almost nothing with McDavid and Draisatl at 26-28yrs old was far scarier than the above FA class possibly being interested in Edmonton if there is no other offers.

I expect Kempe will be extended soon. Necas if he plays well will be the same.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

With all these signings that Kaprizov deal looks dumber and dumber by the day.

My only thoughts today have been “holy the wild must be pissed”.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

By the looks of it, the Oilers are not making it out of the Western Conference in the playoff this year. There is no way they are beating the Knights in 7 games.

Never underestimate the power of playoff reffing.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Steve's Stick

Taxes -

Eichel's net is about 8.5M
Kaprizov's is 9M


You'd think the NHL would have to resolve this at some point.

Being clever with residence, Kaprizov's tax bill is probably less/net is more, but it remains material.

McDavid's net (assuming full year residency in AB is 6.5M)

Does that include things like the “jock tax” though? Aside from creative things that can be done, some of the taxes these guys have to pay are unavoidable and not based on residency.