[Signing] McDavid (2 yrs, $12.5mil AAV) and Walman ($7mi x7) sign extensions with Oilers

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Now it seems like you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

I've already told you numerous times but you continue to to ignore it. When they say it's like a one year extension, they're talking about one year of not having to worry about not being able to re-sign him to a new contract. They wanted him to re-sign longer so they didn't have to worry about him leaving unless he demands a trade.

It's two years. This year and next year.

I am not arguing for the sake of arguing. I am arguing because you don't know how many years make two.

Without the new contract, McDavid would now be one year from free agency and eligible to leave the Oilers in 2026.

With the new contract, McDavid is now three years from free agency and eligible to leave the Oilers in 2028. He will be one year from free agency in 2027, which is two years from now, not one.

Why don't you understand that two equals two and not one?

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

It's two years. This year and next year.

I am not arguing for the sake of arguing. I am arguing because you don't know how many years make two.

Without the new contract, McDavid would now be one year from free agency and eligible to leave the Oilers in 2026.

With the new contract, McDavid is now three years from free agency and eligible to leave the Oilers in 2028. He will be one year from free agency in 2027, which is two years from now, not one.

Why don't you understand that two equals two and not one?

Don't take everything so literal and learn to read between the lines.

You know damn well that I and everyone knows he signed a two year extension and has one year left of his current contract. But only one of those two years the Oilers don't have to worry about re-signing him again which is what the people Manhattanboy are referring to are talking about even though he didn't literally sign a one year extension.

[jayswin]

This argument is insane, and I struggle with JayRandom at times. They had zero years of certainty, he signed a two year deal. They kicked the uncertainty they had yesterday down the road by two years.

[MolsonInBothHands]

This argument is as relevant as Walman.
Would the union or league watch dog a transaction like this for side gigs off the books?

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by BigThief

McDavid just went to back-to-back cup finals, you can hate Edmonton (lol no good!!!!!!) as much as you want but he sees value in trying to do it a couple more years with relatively the same group. Personally I don't know if it's the smartest move, Edmonton hasn't built a great team around him, they drafted Draisaitl the year before and they've ridden those two.

Now obviously money isn't an issue for him but a player should always get their value or close to it. McDavid left money so they could built a team around him, and that money is instantly wasted on Jake Wallen.

The history is clear though, if you don't win in those you aint winning at all, again historically they have little chance of making it to the west finals this year

[direwolf]

Hilarious that they’re gonna try and run it back again with the same old-ass team. They’ll have no choice but to keep riding the wonder twins for 25+ minutes/night to be competitive IMO. I’ll be shocked if they actually make another deep run with this pathetic collection of losers.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

The other part of it is, if the Oilers are in a situation 2, 2.5 years from now where their window has clearly closed, they could trade McDavid at that salary for a massive haul which could kickstart their rebuild. Particularly if Draisaitl is still decent at that time (which I think he will be, I see his career projection kind of similar to Kopitar).

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Don't take everything so literal and learn to read between the lines.

You know damn well that I and everyone knows he signed a two year extension and has one year left of his current contract. But only one of those two years the Oilers don't have to worry about re-signing him again which is what the people Manhattanboy are referring to are talking about even though he didn't literally sign a one year extension.

But they only get to ‘one year’ by ignoring the fact that THIS YEAR is also certain. Before McDavid signed that extension, they were wetting their pants for fear he would walk in the summer of 2026.

One does not equal two, even figuratively.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

But they only get to ‘one year’ by ignoring the fact that THIS YEAR is also certain. Before McDavid signed that extension, they were wetting their pants for fear he would walk in the summer of 2026.

One does not equal two, even figuratively.

Enough already.

They're talking about only the extension itself. They wanted more than one year of certainty ON THE EXTENSION.

[Sofa GM]

So, the Oilers blowing their cap cash bringing back all the players that couldn't get it done last year or the year before? Seems like a solid plan.

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

So, the Oilers blowing their cap cash bringing back all the players that couldn't get it done last year or the year before? Seems like a solid plan.

Don't forget losing important vets to free agency and replacing them with AHL scrubs.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

So, the Oilers blowing their cap cash bringing back all the players that couldn't get it done last year or the year before? Seems like a solid plan.

Minus Perry and Kane two of their best playoff performers

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Enough already.

They're talking about only the extension itself. They wanted more than one year of certainty ON THE EXTENSION.

Then they are talking about the wrong thing. They claimed the extension was the same as if he had only signed for one year – which would have given them ZERO years of certainty on the extension.

I can't believe you're working this hard to support people who think 1 = 2.

[dino7c]

You look how it all lines up with some of the term they are giving out currently and not to pull a Diss but there is no way this isn't it for him with the Oilers

3 years max and gone...their roster will be an absolute disaster the year following this deal. Old and overpaid.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Meanwhile the roster around them just gets worse and older.

People think this guarantees 2 more runs just like the last two, but does it really?

I hate Perry and Kane but they helped them. The players filling those spots are completely unproven.

And how long until the twin start to see production taper? It may have even already begun.

On the surface, oiler fans see it as reason to boast, but there are a ton of caveats there and if it doesnt go as planned, McDavid has all the leverage to decide he's done with the Oilers, well before it expires.

Their moves in 48 hours since aren't inspiring. Just keeps that rotting carcass of a roster in place for too much dough.

[dino7c]

They were a chip off the boards from losing in round 1 last season...Oiler fans and seemingly the media just assume they are going back to the finals every year. There are a lot of good teams out there, many on the rise.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Avs and Knights are certainly better, and aren't relying on rookies like Howard and Savoie who have no experience to buoy their depth.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I can't believe you're working this hard to support people who think 1 = 2.

I'm not supporting them. I explained to Strange Brew what they meant because he was confused about it. I got what they were saying because I don't have to take everything literally to understand it whether I agree with it or not. Unlike some people.

[McG]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

The other part of it is, if the Oilers are in a situation 2, 2.5 years from now where their window has clearly closed, they could trade McDavid at that salary for a massive haul which could kickstart their rebuild. Particularly if Draisaitl is still decent at that time (which I think he will be, I see his career projection kind of similar to Kopitar).

Assuming that there is a NMC, why would McDavid agree to move to a team that was gutted to bring him in, and why would he re-sign with that team if they traded current players and futures? Why would a team do that without an extension in place?

If any trade happened as envisioned, it would be draft picks, and between the improved standings from McDavid’s new team and the oilers ineptitude in drafting and development, it is nowhere near likely that the Oilers remain as contenders.

I think it’s far more likely that McDavid walks at the end of the deal, or signs the 6 year extension at that time. Will he also give a discount at that time?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Avs and Knights are certainly better, and aren't relying on rookies like Howard and Savoie who have no experience to buoy their depth.

Vegas adds a 102 point player and its barely mentioned on state media other than the Leafs angle. This is by far the biggest upgrade of any team in the league