[Signing] McDavid (2 yrs, $12.5mil AAV) and Walman ($7mi x7) sign extensions with Oilers

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

lol.

Or just being a poor negotiator who gave a corrupt organization too much leeway and good will (after they already abused that with mostly terrible decisions).

Meanwhile continues to have no personality outside of embarrassing freak outs in the locker room.

Yeah, my god, incredible leadership.

What an inspiration.

[MonaTone]

This way when he does leave he can say he gave the Oilers every chance he could. This is as much a pragmatic legacy decision as anything.

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I gotta say, I respect this so much. Takes a huge hometown discount to improve his chances to win it all and bring a Canadian city it's first cup since 1993. And the Olympics are coming up too.

This is what leadership looks like.

Mad respect. Pure class.

This post should be marked NSFW.

[Toast_Man]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

You also said this:


McDavid might end up in Toronto. He might play his entire career in Edmonton. He might go to another team after this contract. I have absolutely no idea. It's tough to predict what another human will do, which is why several posters suggested using less than absolute language, and not to name call people with opposing views. Hopefully a lesson has been learned.

What about the times Diss conceded that if McDavid extends, it would be to play with his buddy Drai and the contract would be short?

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Rough day to be a flames fan, again.

extra salt in the wound is the coach playing our real hope of ascent from the depths with absolute pylons on the third pair or aiming him to munch popcorn.

This remains to be seen.
If they never get over the line, McDavid wastes the next 3 years and they then lose him for nothing anyway, we won't look back on this as a rough day for Flames fans.
It certainly delays the joy, but could be just fine or even better in the long run.

[Coach]

Taking the discount only works if you spend the savings on good players.

7 for Walman
9 for Nurse
10.5 for Bouchard
4 for Federic

This is not money well spent.

[really?]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He has to be the dumbest superstar player in the history of the NHL. He really cares so much about his image and wanting to win that he's willing to cost himself and his family millions in career earnings. I guarantee when he's retired he will regret missing out on at least $8 million. Simply foolish as the Oilers have squandered his career yet he feels somehow that he owes them something.

Only thing redeeming is that this means he's gone at the expiry.

Captain doing captain things. Sometimes leading requires sacrifice, Crosby did stuff like this for Pittsburgh. So yeah it might suck financially, but you have to respect a guy who takes a cut for his team.

Maybe they don’t take the next step, I sure hope they don’t, but McDavid’s actions speak to me about his character.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

They're going to be cup favorites next year and the year after. And it's not going to be particularly close. I hope they don't win, but the facts are what they are.

Lol okay buddy settle down they added....Jake Wallman with these cap savings. Even with this contract they will be hard pressed to bring this team.back next season. (Which is worse than last years team IMO)

[jg13]

i ####ing hate the oilers

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

This remains to be seen.
If they never get over the line, McDavid wastes the next 3 years and they then lose him for nothing anyway, we won't look back on this as a rough day for Flames fans.
It certainly delays the joy, but could be just fine or even better in the long run.

For me I didn't think it was likely he walk at the end of this year. I thought a 3 year deal was likely. This puts a timeline on things. I'm happy about that. But he's taking less AAV than I figured. Not happy about that.

The Oilers will be leaving their contention window just as the Flames are hopefully building towards theirs. The key is, them not winning one between now and then.

[YYC in LAX]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Rough day to be a flames fan, again.

extra salt in the wound is the coach playing our real hope of ascent from the depths with absolute pylons on the third pair or aiming him to munch popcorn.

I consider it to be good news for Flames fans. May I ask what you were expecting?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Rough day to be a flames fan, again.

extra salt in the wound is the coach playing our real hope of ascent from the depths with absolute pylons on the third pair or aiming him to munch popcorn.

Not really. This means there's some finality that there's only three years left of the nightmare and they are in no way guaranteed anything.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Coach

Taking the discount only works if you spend the savings on good players.

7 for Walman
9 for Nurse
10.5 for Bouchard
4 for Federic

This is not money well spent.

Add Skinner raise or other average goalie that will make more and thats your Oilers the next 3 years.

[YYC in LAX]

Originally Posted by Scornfire

I love that they immediately pour a good chunk of those savings into a fkin 7x7 Walman deal lmao

Full Oiler

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by really?

Captain doing captain things. Sometimes leading requires sacrifice, Crosby did stuff like this for Pittsburgh. So yeah it might suck financially, but you have to respect a guy who takes a cut for his team.

Maybe they don’t take the next step, I sure hope they don’t, but McDavid’s actions speak to me about his character.

Pretty much

When the best player in the world takes an $7.5m discount to try and win a championship...that's more than the individual salaries for 18 players on the oilers roster. If you're on that team, the expectation is that you're doing everything you can do to win that championship. If you're not on that team and are a UFA who wants a cup...you're also taking a discount to go there

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He has to be the dumbest superstar player in the history of the NHL. He really cares so much about his image and wanting to win that he's willing to cost himself and his family millions in career earnings. I guarantee when he's retired he will regret missing out on at least $8 million. Simply foolish as the Oilers have squandered his career yet he feels somehow that he owes them something.

Only thing redeeming is that this means he's gone at the expiry.

By the end of this contract, McDavid will have $120 mil career earnings. His next contract will probably be something like 7 x 16. So by the time he retires he’ll have made over $230 mil playing hockey. That’s generational wealth for him, his kids, and his grandkids. In that context, an extra 8 or 10 mil doesn’t matter nearly as much as a ring.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

For me I didn't think it was likely he walk at the end of this year. I thought a 3 year deal was likely. This puts a timeline on things. I'm happy about that. But he's taking less AAV than I figured. Not happy about that.

The Oilers will be leaving their contention window just as the Flames are hopefully building towards theirs. The key is, them not winning one between now and then.

Their chance of winning a cup is going to be ~8% this year, and 15%-20% each of the next two years. So the glass half full is that there's a ~2/3 chance they won't win a cup in any of the next three seasons.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Pretty much

When the best player in the world takes an $7.5m discount to try and win a championship...that's more than the individual salaries for 18 players on the oilers roster. If you're on that team, the expectation is that you're doing everything you can do to win that championship. If you're not on that team and are a UFA who wants a cup...you're also taking a discount to go there

Yeah because that has ever happened in Edmonton...McDavid took less last time and everyone else took top dollar lol

Guy might mean well but it was a ridiculously stupid decision and will age poorly IMO. I mean Wallman was a cap dump just over a year ago and now they are playing him 7M

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

This remains to be seen.
If they never get over the line, McDavid wastes the next 3 years and they then lose him for nothing anyway, we won't look back on this as a rough day for Flames fans.
It certainly delays the joy, but could be just fine or even better in the long run.

Each additional time they come up short with the best weapon in the game is an embarrassing feat of ineptitude.

That you can't come up with a goalie better than Skinner in 10 years is hilarious. I hope they stick with him.

[Monahammer]

I really like how some of you just choose to reject realism and live in pocket dimensions of reality some times. I want to know how to divorce myself from facts and likely consequences/ outcomes so easily, it would be very helpful for my every day life.

There were 2 basic outcomes for McDavid this season: He doesn't re-sign and becomes a free agent (Good!), or he does (doesn't matter for how long) and we continue to have to deal with him and the impacts of Edmonton having him for X amount of years (Bad!).

It has now crystalized around the worse of the 2 options. It's not a positive outcome. That's ok, it's not like it's going to be the end of the world, no one's life is exploding as a consequence of this, but it's OK to acknowledge that this is not a good outcome for flames fans.