10-04-2025, 03:15 PM
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#9661
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Franchise Player
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Good teammates are key, but they also have to produce as top paid players. He's a bum.
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10-04-2025, 03:42 PM
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#9662
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Franchise Player
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Huberdeau won’t be traded unless it’s a dump in the last two years of his contract.
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10-04-2025, 03:55 PM
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#9663
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by Royle9
Not sure if serious..
That only happens in EA NHL.
If you're making a big trade to land a guy who you're pursuing and want to be apart of what your building you definitely don't immediately flip him.
That's a surefire way to eliminate the possibility of any young star/RFA/UFA from ever signing here again.
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Not that rare. Who said Robertson would even want to sign here? Could be a rantanen to carolina like situation.
For us, where we are in building, trades should maximize value and then look for fit. In this case, if Robertson is really achievable as a return (I strongly doubt that is the case) then we should take that, because hes valuable and could potentially land us a viable 1c in a trade, something we need dearly.
I also don't see how this burns any bridges or devalues the reputation of the club. Its kind of akin for trading a bunch of paperclips for a sports car and then selling the sportscar to buy a van for your family.
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10-04-2025, 04:01 PM
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#9664
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Franchise Player
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Even with a rising cap, Huberdeau's value is still terrible because it is all relative - How he produces relative to other teams like players and their respective cap hits. It is likely going to be quite a number of years, even with a rising cap, for players hitting in the 60s to garner 10 million dollar deals. Even when they do, Huberdeau probably won't be a 60 point player any longer either, and will probably be at the end of his career. So yes, if there is an opportunity to deal Huberdeau for a shorter term poor deal, I would do it.
With that being said, there is still a lot to like about Huberdeau on and off the ice. The one and only issue i have with him is his cap hit. Otherwise, I am 100% happy to have him on the team - his attitude, his 2-way play, his leadership, and his community involvement. He is a very solid player on the ice, and an even better human off of it.
Things could be a lot worse. It wasn't Leeman's fault that he was the centerpiece of the worst trade in Flames' history, and I never once begrudged him, and felt that the booing he got hit with was unjustified and completely embarrassing as a Flames' fan. You would have to think that it wasn't just injuries that slowed down Leeman, but the pressure and vitriol of the situation probably played a huge role in his downfall. Huberdeau didn't shy away from anything. He stood up and answered questions constantly, even after getting benched that one game, which was probably the most embarrassing moment of his entire career. That takes character. A lot of character. He can play on my team any day.
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10-04-2025, 04:24 PM
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#9665
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Franchise Player
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If any of our pro scouts at the time of the Tkachuk trade told GMBT that Huby was 'the guy' and worthy of such a contract, then I hope that scout is no longer employed here.
Was the bad idea just GMBT's?
I hope someone spills the beans some day. Any insiders have a line on this? It's water under the bridge so maybe lips will be looser.
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10-04-2025, 04:40 PM
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#9666
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
If any of our pro scouts at the time of the Tkachuk trade told GMBT that Huby was 'the guy' and worthy of such a contract, then I hope that scout is no longer employed here.
Was the bad idea just GMBT's?
I hope someone spills the beans some day. Any insiders have a line on this? It's water under the bridge so maybe lips will be looser.
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I mean, when you have a franchise player asking to be dealt and you’re given an offer of a winger that produced more points and the same as Johnny, a top pairing defenseman, 1st, and a prospect, you pounce on it. And I think we just simply deleted Gaudreau’s name on the contract we offered and entered in Huberdeau’s info.
I don’t blame management. Huberdeau was a bonafide PPG player pre-Calgary and still has it in him. We just have to find the right teammates for him. And it’s a further testament to the difference between playing in the eastern conference and the western conference, as well as playing in different coaching systems.
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10-04-2025, 04:40 PM
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#9667
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Franchise Player
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I have a bad feeling that Huberdeau going to fall of a cliff this year or next. I guess that would be the second cliff. The stamina and skating are not going to get better and last years shooting percentage was an outlier.
As others have said, he seems like a good teammate and a standup guy so hopefully not and he continues to contribute in some ways.
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10-04-2025, 04:50 PM
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#9668
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
Huby has the worst contract in the league, but is a good teammate.
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No he doesn't.
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10-04-2025, 05:10 PM
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#9669
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
No he doesn't.
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He sure does.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/651...ivan-provorov/
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Originally Posted by the Athletic
For the second straight year Huberdeau carries the league’s worst contract...
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The fact Gullfoss is not banned for life on here is such an embarrassment. Just a joke.
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10-04-2025, 05:10 PM
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#9670
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
If any of our pro scouts at the time of the Tkachuk trade told GMBT that Huby was 'the guy' and worthy of such a contract, then I hope that scout is no longer employed here.
Was the bad idea just GMBT's?
I hope someone spills the beans some day. Any insiders have a line on this? It's water under the bridge so maybe lips will be looser.
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I think the Huberdeau contract was an ownership decision. Probably not solely but to a large extent I believe Treliving was told to find a player(s) to replace Gaudreau/Tkachuk.
I’m sure the hockey department was aware of the risk.
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10-04-2025, 05:13 PM
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#9671
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Almost every single poster here was thrilled with that contract when it was signed. And the hockey world almost universally approved too
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10-04-2025, 05:16 PM
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#9672
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
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That is an opinion piece. It’s not a fact.
I think it’s fair to say Huberdeau has one of the worst contracts on the league but to say it is factually, is misguided.
That would be like saying ‘Butterfly’ by Crazy Town is the worst song of all time, yet hundreds of thousands of people can’t live without it.
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10-04-2025, 05:21 PM
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#9673
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by TOfan
That is an opinion piece. It’s not a fact.
I think it’s fair to say Huberdeau has one of the worst contracts on the league but to say it is factually, is misguided.
That would be like saying ‘Butterfly’ by Crazy Town is the worst song of all time, yet hundreds of thousands of people can’t live without it.
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That's a super poor analogy.
It's more like saying Cenovus is the worst run of the major oil companies in Canada. Or that Scotia and CIBC are the worst run major banks in Canada. It's subjective, but a reasonable analysis comes to that conclusion.
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The fact Gullfoss is not banned for life on here is such an embarrassment. Just a joke.
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10-04-2025, 05:22 PM
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#9674
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Franchise Player
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Nurse contract… lol.
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10-04-2025, 05:44 PM
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#9675
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by royle9
nurse contract… lol.
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100%
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10-04-2025, 05:48 PM
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#9676
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Franchise Player
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I don't like this game, let's play something else.
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10-04-2025, 06:35 PM
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#9677
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
That's a super poor analogy.
It's more like saying Cenovus is the worst run of the major oil companies in Canada. Or that Scotia and CIBC are the worst run major banks in Canada. It's subjective, but a reasonable analysis comes to that conclusion.
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Then why state it as though it is a fact?
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10-04-2025, 06:53 PM
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#9678
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
If any of our pro scouts at the time of the Tkachuk trade told GMBT that Huby was 'the guy' and worthy of such a contract, then I hope that scout is no longer employed here.
Was the bad idea just GMBT's?
I hope someone spills the beans some day. Any insiders have a line on this? It's water under the bridge so maybe lips will be looser.
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A bit off topic, but I wish the NHL required teams to publish their draft rankings 20 years after each draft.
Enough changes in 20 years to not get hung up about a stupid GM or a stupid head scout, but it would be fascinating to see how right and wrong each team was and how wildly different or the same each list is.
The details on the Huby contract/evaluation would be too soon as guys are likely still involved if they had input (although really, Treleving only had the one option once he traded for Huberdeau—to give him the Gaudreau contract).
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10-04-2025, 06:53 PM
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#9679
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Franchise Player
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If you want to take any bias or Flames homerism out lets exclude Huberdeau from that list.
List thinks Nurse has a better contract that Sam Bennett
List is no good
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10-04-2025, 06:59 PM
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#9680
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First Line Centre
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When Huberdeau was scoring 15 and 12 goals per season, he had the worst contract in the league. At 28 goals he is tied for 50th OA for goal scoring, which is top line production.
It is not great but it sure is a step in the right direction.
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Originally Posted by gvitaly
He was about $4M overpaid($6.4M value) based on last year's analytics, and he's likely overpaid by $5.5M for the duration of the contract. Dom's model isn't the best tool out there, so take it with a grain of salt, but it does give some perspective.
I also thought that Hubby got a bit lucky to score 28 last year, as a lot of the goals seemed tot be the result of some puck luck. I would probably take the under on 23 goals this year.
PS: I'm not trying to run the guy out of town, and he has a NMC which he fairly negotiated.
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I think it is weird that Huberdeau scored more goals last year than the two previous years combined but that chart barely bumped and still just shows his value crashing.
I think a full season of Huberdeau-Kadri-Coronato would make a world of difference over last season where Huberdeau played 427 minutes with Pospisil and 279 minutes with Coronato.
I also think that if Huberdeau were traded to the Stars and was dropped onto a line with Hintz and Rantanen, that would also do magical things to his production. Maybe he'd get back to 100 points and then we'd all be screaming into our pillows about how he could do that on the Panthers and Stars but not with the Flames.
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